Older Somali generation is blaming the younger generation for our current problems!

[Villainess]

Tf since when did asli write paragraphs

I have always been a literal person. Guess you haven't noticed

 

[Desert Flower]

I personally think there is much blame on the mothers as well. A somali mother puts all her focus in her daughters but lets her sons come home at 3 am with girls on his arm.

But even in a two parent home the kids turn out wild. they could be living in a mansion but they will find a way to crawl to the streets.

And if the dad is there he either is always gone truck-driving or he's hanging out at a cafe and leaving his wife to raise the kids.

have you noticed that every somali family at a park or place of fun of some sort is always the mom alone? The dad never bothers to take his kids out to Valleyfair etc. Chuck-e-cheese is only the hooyos and her kids.

It’s embarrassing especially on Eid. Other communities have both parents with the families but not Somalis. But what @Manafesto said was spot on.

 

[Recon Expert]

Somalis could easily improve their social infrastructure, sadly we are too corrupted and divided! I am no expert on this topic but I am optimistic about our future.

We went through an era of civil war, warlords, Islamists, foreign intervention in the last 3 decades.

Most of our institutions and federal regions aren't that old.

 

[Revolutionary]

You have to be honest with yourself, how many Somali men would die for their people? Would you?

And I agree with the last part. Somali men are grinding earning money for their families, trying to support the ones in America and the ones back home. The problem is that Somali men in Somalia aren't bothering to get a job, they sit back and rely on the 50 bucks they get each week.

Weaklings.

You're not looking at the bigger picture, "would they fight for their people" how can they? The national army is dysfunctional, the essence of somalinimo is practically dead, qabil is what fuels fights, and this all has to do with the lack of good governanc, if this were to change the rest would trickle down

im also curious, are somali women the same today than before, im sure your answer would be comple different

 

[Villainess]

It’s embarrassing especially on Eid. Other communities have both parents with the families but not Somalis. But what @Manafesto said was spot on.

Eid is the part that got me. Wallahi you could go to Mall of America and the only thing you see is a hooyo taking her 5 kids to the next ride. It's so pitiful. No aabo that bothers to be there.

 

[Revolutionary]

May be if the Somali man loved his country and people regardless of qabiil, his country would have been peaceful

Yes that's what i advocate for probably not in the future though with the way shit is going om

 

[Revolutionary]

Somalis could easily improve their social infrastructure, sadly we are too corrupted and divided! I am no expert on this topic but I am optimistic about our future.

We went through an era of civil war, warlords, Islamists, foreign intervention in the last 3 decades.

Most of our institutions and federal regions aren't that old.

I agree 100% i too am a bit optimistic on our future, though i think you might not agree with me when i say i wish the Islamists had one

 

[Manafesto]

For me, I am never going back to Somalia. Since, you call people like me “weak liberal men”. I will stay in the west after school and training. Let the faithful and religious fix Somalia using the Quran and prayers to Allah.

Religion is one of the biggest reasons we are in this mess, half of the country is litterly controlled by filthy Islamic extremists.

 

[Villainess]

You're not looking at the bigger picture, "would they fight for their people" how can they? The national army is dysfunctional, the essence of somalinimo is practically dead, qabil is what fuels fights, and this all has to do with the lack of good governanc, if this were to change the rest would trickle down

im also curious, are somali women the same today than before, im sure your answer would be comple different

It's a rhetorical question, no need to use an example of our current situation. I asked it to create a to make a point rather than to get an actual answer.

And no. Somali women are absolute embarrassment. But I do have a bit of empathy for them.


For women it's different. Our hooyos are beautiful, hard-working, strivers of survival. But Somali women nowadays? ha ha! In Somalia you have women lathered in bleach and tight dresses with "hijab" and in the quurbo you have insta influencers and little Halssas running around. But then again, most of these girls breed out. I don't worry.

We as females went from raising our kids with honor to scrambling for madow men all for a "check"

 

[Octavian]

I was arguing with my dad today and he had me pissed off when he implied Somalia is a shithole because of the younger generation being useless and retards unlike other countries where the their younger generation are leading them, so here is my response to him, skip my rant if you hate long posts about nothing and answer the question at the end.

If you were born 1985-present ,these problems already existed or they were starting. The thing I really don't understand is how the older Somali generations can really blame anyone under 35. Sure, the people under 35 and younger are generally little shits, but were did we learn it from?

Single parent households and an unaccountable society. Now, does that give a reason not to try to make things better? Absolutely not. We should strive to make our country better. We should strive to make a country that can actually stand on it's own, rather than selling it to the highest bidder. We shouldn't just sit down and let another country just buy us out and control us.

We must learn how the world works and how to react to this world around us. What I don't understand is how the older generation can blame us for the challenges currently facing our country. How can they possibly blame us for anything? Yes, we're lazy and dumb as f*ck, but the older generations have set everything up for us.

A society that cares nothing about accountability. A society that cares nothing about hard work. A society that would rather place the blame on someone else rather than fixing the problem at hand. Our economy is shit, Our society is shit. Our culture is shit. Our FUTURE is shit.

How about instead of criticising our laziness and lack of ability to change you teach us or show us how to change? We have been taught from birth that our government is right no matter what. We have been taught how to obey. That is how things were in the 70s and 80s. TEACH US. EDUCATE US. We want to care.

There is nothing to unite under though. There is no society to fight for. People in our country and abroad are ashamed to be Somali. Where is our pride? Where is our reason to care? We are the most misinformed generation because our media is shit and our parents think of us as so much of a joke that they don't care to tell us where a reliable source for information is.

We ARE dumbasses. Some of us want to break out of this bullshit shell of believing everything the media says and believing that our government always has our best interest at heart. We want to break out of this bullshit spell that iPods and smart phones have us under but we were born in the reality that these things are essential to our survival, which is complete bullshit.

All I'm saying is educate us like your parents or society educated you rather than blaming us for not knowing shit when you do not want to teach us. We have just as much of the blame to shoulder as the older generation, but we don't know how to break out of our bullshit ass rut.

We need a purpose. Every human needs a purpose. But we as Somalis have nothing to fight for. Look around and think about it. I'm sure you have; and hopefully you'll see as I have, there is no hope for the human race. We are going to kill each off other within the next ten years and have Ethopians takes over.

It's sad how the younger generations have to clean up the older generations mess, but that's what the human learning experience is all about. They make mistakes, we learn from them and do better.

The next generations will learn from our mistakes and do even better. It's just how it is. It amazes me even now what my kids are learning in preschool. Stuff I didn't learn until I was maybe in 1st or 2nd grade. The generations after them will be learning algebra in preschool by the way things are going now.

We advance as a race. It's just how it is. So as sad and difficult as it is, history is a bunch of lessons people learn from. Without learning from our past mistakes, we wouldn't get anywhere.

It's human nature to error. Learning from them and being able to change the outcome is part of what makes us intelligent. Can other animals do that? Sure! But only a handful have shown that they are capable of learning from what they experience.

Let our parents f*ck things up so we can learn how to do it better. It may be frustrating to have to clean up someone else's mess, but as a parent I do that every day. We do our best to teach our babies to survive in the world me made with hopes they can make something better out of it as they get older and wiser.

End of my Rant

Does the younger generation should be blamed for Somalia being a shithole? Why are old farts still in charge in Somlia unlike other countries where young minds are running the show? Do we deserve to be treated like this way?

because of society puts those that oldest on top due perceived so no matter how useless the elders are they will be repsected and placed above the young.
leadership in other countries are determind based on education and money most young folks are poor back home they lack the capital to not only improve but also change the world around them

yes we doo we never build a single factory or building on our own it was always with the use of money from foreigners or even at times used others to build for us.

in conclusion the older gen is trying to make themselfs look better then they are. The same people who thought that some bootlegg socialist kcaan was guud idea looted their own graves in order to get some money for food and to this day are fighting over acient rivalries that are soo old that they closer to nabi adam then us has no right to blame other its their fault that somalia is where it is today and i for one can't wait until they all die.

 

[Recon Expert]

I agree 100% i too am a bit optimistic on our future, though i think you might not agree with me when i say i wish the Islamists had one

 

[Villainess]

Religion is one of the biggest reasons we are in this mess, half of the country is litterly controlled by filthy Islamic extremists.

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Religion? So let me ask you something. Do you think Somalia would be better off atheist? I'm asking you this honestly.

 

[Hassan mahat]

Religion is one of the biggest reasons we are in this mess, half of the country is litterly controlled by filthy Islamic extremists.

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Damn, alshabab really still have power. The government is truly incompetent.

 

[Recon Expert]

Religion is one of the biggest reasons we are in this mess, half of the country is litterly controlled by filthy Islamic extremists.

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Siad Barre was smart when he was jailing the Sheikhs, it's a shame majority of our Sheikhs are fundamentalist.

God willing we open an education camp and re educate our brothers and sisters.

 

[Hassan mahat]

Religion? So let me ask you something. Do you think Somalia would be better off atheist? I'm asking you this honestly.

even as a Muslim, yes. Everyone will be on the same page, and alshabab will be gone since they are based on religious extremism.

 

[Villainess]

even as a Muslim, yes.

Well guess what? Somalia did go through an atheist time period.

And well? We were at our lowest of our era.

 

[Hassan mahat]

Well guess what? Somalia did go through an atheist time period.

And well? We were at our lowest of our era.

Somalia was never an atheist country, it had secular dictatorship but majority were Muslim.

 

[Recon Expert]

Damn, alshabab really still have power. The government is truly incompetent.

They easily brainwash and get the support of the marginalized communities.

 

[Villainess]

Somalia was never an atheist country, it had secular dictatorship but majority were Muslim.

So I don't get you... You claim you want secularism as a country yet you willingly advocate for it knowing it caused our downfall?

 

[Revolutionary]

Religion is one of the biggest reasons we are in this mess, half of the country is litterly controlled by filthy Islamic extremists.

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Its easy to push the blame on a certain group, and in your case its muslims. Al Shabab is nothing but muslim, if so they wouldn't be slaughtering their own fellow muslims. If they were muslim they wouldnt be smuggling haram substances to make a profit for their terrorism, if they were muslim they wouldn't have bombed a mosuqe

What i find funny is that the ICU, an Islamist organization, brought peace and stability to the anarchic southern somalia, was islam the root cause, of course you'd say no, when it doesnt fit you you'd say so or what about pre colonisism where Somalis had our tribal sultanates? We can go on and on and you still wouldn't see half the truth.