She did it most likely because she was poor.
The man is not a pedophile, because she is not a child. Not correct word usage here.
The man is not a pedophile, because she is not a child. Not correct word usage here.
You read my post wrong. I never meant to say it only happens in Somalia, so calling me a feminist for what? How about you debate with people without feeling the need to insult?Yes it happens all over the world, so you feminists need to stop making this a somali only issue .
Like I said, in the West and other rich countries, it isn’t as common. In fact no where near and actual statistics proves this. The average woman is with a man of a similar age group or slightly older.Whether its leonardo DiCaprio or some other rich old white men . As I said its prevelant amongst all societies ,rich old men having access to younger girls through their resources .
Nope, women do not have the resources in poor countries to use men temporarily. That is why diaspora Somali men who marry from back home do not like to bring their wives to the West because deep down many know that their wives are only with them for the money. Any opportunity that the West gives people in terms of money and independence can be a threat to the marriage.Then the Somali awowe is seen as temporary cash cow until he's gone.
The data is that in poor countries, the age gaps are larger and that in richer countries, people tend to date and marry within their generation. That is the fact. I’m sorry, but between the two of us you are the one leading with emotions.Facts don't care about your feelings .
The data is clear & you agreed with me earlier lol .
I never threw a tantrum. I merely noted that if Somalia were richer, large age gaps wouldn’t be common. That is a fact and why does that fact bother you so much? Does it bother you that the majority of young women simply aren’t attracted to older men and that the majority of the time it is usually due to poverty? Do you know that of recently, young Somali men have been marrying older 45+ Diaspora habayars. Why do you think that is? And if you were to explain the obvious reason, does that mean I can insult you and call you a redpill hater?She's 24 years old made able to consent & halal married , those unmarried feminazi's need to stop throwing a tantrum .
I never once claimed this only happens in Somalia. My point is, this is more common in poorer nations like Somalia being an example . In the West, the average man is married to a woman who is slightly younger but of a similar age group. Marriages like the Murdoch’s isn’t common and the fact that you have to use a billionaire is very telling. Do you see the average Joe married to a woman 30 yrs his senior?Wendi Deng married Robert Murdoch who was 37 years older than her. There you have the claim made by some women that it only happens within Somalis busted. It happens in all societies.
@Bundasliga and @Roorigeg
This is the point I was trying to make. Whilst yes, you do get age gaps in the West, it simply isn’t common like it is in poorer nations. Here is the data:
In addition, husband-older spousal age-gaps tend to be larger in regions where gender inequality is high, women marry young, and marriages are typically arranged (Carmichael, 2011). Micro-level cross-cultural data show that spousal age-gaps vary considerably between countries, but decline predictably with increasing metrics of economic growth, urbanization, monogamy, and education (Feng & Ren, 2022).
Spousal age-gaps, partner preferences, and consequences for well-being in four Colombian communities
Across cultures, women tend to marry older men. This phenomenon is commonly described as the result of evolved mate choice preferences, which cause me…www.sciencedirect.com
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The vast majority of rich to average counties have an age gap of 2.2 yrs to 7yrs. Poorer nations as you can see have age gaps that are 8yrs+ and you’re much more likely to see a very average man who doesn’t have significant wealth marrying a girl old enough to be his daughter. That simply isn’t the case in the West, which is why you had to sight figures like Murdoch who is a billionaire and Leo who has a net worth that is near enough half a billion.
why does he have to stop referring to her as a fertile woman? a woman is not an object so he did not refer to her as such, and fertile is merely an adjective. albeit he does not know truly if she is fertile, i will fault him for his lack of knowledge, but the comment for itself was not an errorFirst of all stop referring to her as fertile women aren't objects or some animals just made for breeding wtf does a 68 year old have any business having kids he will die soon leaving that child fatherless we Somali people need to stop bringing children into this world we can't take care of it is inhumane.
Didnt the Prophet SAW marry Aisha (RA) when she was 9? Theres nothing wrong with these marriages in Islam, and not all of them are solely based on poverty like these feminists here ludicrously claim.We had a project manager who was a woman in the job that I used to have before the current one. She was married to a guy who was 15 years older than her. I also remember working in a government building where one of the woman was married to a man who was older than her at 17 years. So in conservative and religious communities in the West, age gap is not an issue.
Take for instance, Donald J Trump and Melania Trump. He was not a president nor did he had political ambitions when he married her. They have 24-year age difference.
President of France Macron and his wife Brigitte also had 24 years age gap where the wife is the older in this case.
Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-20/couple-with-a-larger-age-gap-happier/9680764
"Romantic couples with a large age gap often raise eyebrows. Studies have found partners with more than a 10-year gap in age experience social disapproval. But when it comes to our own relationships, both men and women prefer someone their own age, but are open to someone 10-15 years their junior or senior."
"in these countries" this farax be thinkin he's swedish LOLIn these countries marriage is a business deal, she gets her life supported and he gets a young wife, and children too.
I don’t think it has anything to do with conservatism. Age gaps happen in the West amongst the ultra rich. Women married older men simply for financial security. Think leo and other wealthy men like Donald Trump which you even used as an example. Most Ultra Christians get married young to other young men. They’re much less likely to base their relationship on money and resources unless poor or the man is incredibly wealthy.We had a project manager who was a woman in the job that I used to have before the current one. She was married to a guy who was 15 years older than her. I also remember working in a government building where one of the woman was married to a man who was older than her at 17 years. So in conservative and religious communities in the West, age gap is not an issue.
Thanks for proving my point. Even before becoming president Trump was a Billionaire. We’re not talking about the top 0.5%. Also, Melania was a poor Eastern European who used to engage in inappropriate modeling for money. Classic woman for married a man simply for resources.Take for instance, Donald J Trump and Melania Trump. He was not a president nor did he had political ambitions when he married her. They have 24-year age difference.
That is a controversial one as she was his teacher and many see that as an example of grooming. The president has been mocked and looked at as down right weird for being a young man with an ayeeyo.President of France Macron and his wife Brigitte also had 24 years age gap where the wife is the older in this case.
Yes, there is no denying it happens, that isn’t what we’re debating. We are debating if this is common and prevalent and even the source you used contradicts you and I’ve highlighted it red for you.Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-20/couple-with-a-larger-age-gap-happier/9680764
"Romantic couples with a large age gap often raise eyebrows. Studies have found partners with more than a 10-year gap in age experience social disapproval. But when it comes to our own relationships, both men and women prefer someone their own age, but are open to someone 10-15 years their junior or senior."
I don’t think it has anything to do with conservatism. Age gaps happen in the West amongst the ultra rich. Women have always married older men for financial security. Think leo and other wealthy men like Donald Trump which you even used as an example. Most Ultra Christians get married young to other young men.
Thanks for proving my point. Even before becoming president Trump was a Billionaire.
That is a controversial one as she was his teacher and many see that as an example of grooming. The president has been mocked and looked at as down right weird for being a young man with an ayeeyo.
Yes, there is no denying it happens, that isn’t what we’re debating. We are debating if this is common and prevalent and even the source you used contradicts you and I’ve highlighted it red for you.
In the west, they disapprove of it and on top of that as they have noted that most prefer their own age which is in line with my data that majority are in relationships with people that are 2-7 yrs older.
Yes and he was also married to Khadijah who was 15 yrs his senior and was twice married, yet you lot look down on previously married women, so cut the fake outrage please.Didnt the Prophet SAW marry Aisha (RA) when she was 9? Theres nothing wrong with these marriages in Islam, and not all of them are solely based on poverty like these feminists here ludicrously claim.
Firstly please reread my other paragraph, I’ve added more.I beg to differ. In Murica, the women who marry older men don't face social disapproval.
Because the point you and others keep on missing is that age gaps are simply not common in the West like it is back home.In this continental US, nobody cares what grown-ups do with their lives. And if a young woman in Murica marries an older man due to financial reasons, it is also the case back home. So I don't understand why the ones back home are ridiculed by Somali women in the diaspora.
Saxib, stop with anecdotes. You’re not getting it. Obviously age gaps do happen, but it simply isn’t common. All different types of data points to this. I never claimed it doesn’t happen.My AA neighbor who died recently had an older AA relative and he was married to a young oriental wife, and they had a young son whose age was roughly 8 year old. If I take a guess of the age difference, I would say at least 25 to 30 years.
Nope, it isn’t as common. The average difference in age is between 2-7 in the west and it is much higher in poorer nations due to poverty. That is simply my point, and it is a factual one that is easy to grasp. Even the article YOU quoted points to that.We see couples with huge age gap differences all of the time, and people here don't care about what grown-ups do with their lives.
My point wasn’t to ridicule but to note that in poorer nations if women had the chance for money and education, they would give young men a chance and many wouldn’t entertain the proposals of older men who are old enough to be their grandfathers/fathers. We’re talking about a young girl in the Baadio/meey whose parents are dirt poor and if an older man with a bit of money comes, do you think she’ll say no, even if she’s repulsed by him? Can you for one second actually look at reality?Noting a fact that is backed by data and real life isn’t ridiculing.Frankly, people here would ridicule when they see women taking issues with older men marrying young women. Older women do the same thing as well and marry young men.
Love has no age here is a 18 yr old boy marrying a 60 year old ayeeyo. I think you should stop being judgemental.Yes and he was also married to Khadijah who was 15 yrs his senior and was twice married, yet you lot look down on previously married women, so cut the fake outrage please.
it is a fact that women tend to marry older men generally for resources. Calling people feminist isn’t going to make the data false. This is the reality. Women In poorer nations are much more likely to marry older men and a lot of data supports this. This has nothing to do with feminism. You look dumb trying to fight this.
Women generally are attracted to men who are slightly older but of a similar generation. They are not interested in grandfathers or men double their age.
He is marrying for lacaag or passport, or a he is the rare 1% of people that are attracted to pensioners. In every group you get that, but it simply isn’t common and that is my point. Btw, a man or woman can most definitely be attracted to someone significantly older, but I’m talking about marrying 60+Love has no age here is a 18 yr old boy marrying a 60 year old ayeeyo. I think you should stop being judgemental.