Must a Caliphate be from Quraysh?
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Al-khilaafah (the Caliphate) remains within the Quraysh until `Eesaa ibn Maryam `alayhis-salaatu was-salaam (may Allaah extol him and grant him peace and security) descends.
If more than person contends about who is going to take over the rulership and each one of them is fitting for rulership then precedence is given to the Qurashiyy (the person who is from the tribe of Quraysh) because of his special quality over others; because of his sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam saying,
“The rulers are from the Quraysh.” [04]
And his saying,
“Give precedence to the Quraysh and do not give precedence to yourselves over them.”
So if the man of Quraysh is righteous and contention occurs with regard to who will take charge, then the man of Quraysh is given precedence because of the fact that the Messenger sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam gave that instruction and because the Companions when Allaah’s Messenger sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam passed away and when the Ansaar (the Muslims of Madeenah) said, “There should be a leader from us and a leader from you.”
Then Aboo Bakr radiyAllaahu `anhu responded “The Arabs (in general) they will not submit regarding this affair except to this group of Quraysh.” [06] So therefore they gave the bay`ah (pledge of allegiance) to Aboo Bakr as-Siddeeq radiyAllaahu `anhu and then after him to `Umar and after him to `Uthmaan and after him to `Aliyy and after him to Mu`aawiyah and after him to Banoo Umayyah and after them to Banoo `Abbaas and all of them were from Quraysh. However, if the matter is completed and concluded, then obedience becomes binding even if he is not a man of Quraysh. Or if the man of Quraysh is not suitable for rulership, for the mere fact that he is from Quraysh does not automatically give him the right to rulership unless along with being from the Quraysh, he is a righteous man and there is not already an established ruler.
His saying, “…until `Eesaa ibn Maryam ‘alayhis-salaatu was-salaam descends.” This is an indication of the fact that `Eesaa `alayhis-salaam when he descends, he will descend and the ruler of the Muslims will be Muhammad ibn `Abdillaah al-Mahdee, who will be from the family of al-Hasan ibn `Aliyy ibn Abee Taalib. So this shows that the last of the rulers will indeed be from Quraysh and the first of them was from Quraysh, and he was Aboo Bakr radiyAllaahu `anhu and this is what is implemented as far as possible as we have mentioned. And if no-one is found from Quraysh, this does not mean that leadership passes away. Or if someone who is not from the Quraysh establishes the affair and he becomes the leader, and the person is suitable, it doesn’t mean that we remove him and we say you are not suitable for it. So it is obligatory to have awareness of these matters.
“Allaah’s Messenger sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam came to us whilst we were in the house of a man from the Ansaar so he took hold of the two doorposts and he said, “The rulers are from Quraysh.”
Shaykh al-Albaaniyy said with regard to this narration, “It is a hadeeth that is saheeh (authentic). “
[05] This is also reported by Ibn Abee `Aasim in his book as-Sunnah and at-Tabaraaniyy in al-Mu`jamulKabeer as occurs in the book Majma` uz-Zawaa·id.
If more than person contends about who is going to take over the rulership and each one of them is fitting for rulership then precedence is given to the Qurashiyy (the person who is from the tribe of Quraysh) because of his special quality over others; because of his sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam saying,
“The rulers are from the Quraysh.” [04]
And his saying,
“Give precedence to the Quraysh and do not give precedence to yourselves over them.”
So if the man of Quraysh is righteous and contention occurs with regard to who will take charge, then the man of Quraysh is given precedence because of the fact that the Messenger sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam gave that instruction and because the Companions when Allaah’s Messenger sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam passed away and when the Ansaar (the Muslims of Madeenah) said, “There should be a leader from us and a leader from you.”
Then Aboo Bakr radiyAllaahu `anhu responded “The Arabs (in general) they will not submit regarding this affair except to this group of Quraysh.” [06] So therefore they gave the bay`ah (pledge of allegiance) to Aboo Bakr as-Siddeeq radiyAllaahu `anhu and then after him to `Umar and after him to `Uthmaan and after him to `Aliyy and after him to Mu`aawiyah and after him to Banoo Umayyah and after them to Banoo `Abbaas and all of them were from Quraysh. However, if the matter is completed and concluded, then obedience becomes binding even if he is not a man of Quraysh. Or if the man of Quraysh is not suitable for rulership, for the mere fact that he is from Quraysh does not automatically give him the right to rulership unless along with being from the Quraysh, he is a righteous man and there is not already an established ruler.
His saying, “…until `Eesaa ibn Maryam ‘alayhis-salaatu was-salaam descends.” This is an indication of the fact that `Eesaa `alayhis-salaam when he descends, he will descend and the ruler of the Muslims will be Muhammad ibn `Abdillaah al-Mahdee, who will be from the family of al-Hasan ibn `Aliyy ibn Abee Taalib. So this shows that the last of the rulers will indeed be from Quraysh and the first of them was from Quraysh, and he was Aboo Bakr radiyAllaahu `anhu and this is what is implemented as far as possible as we have mentioned. And if no-one is found from Quraysh, this does not mean that leadership passes away. Or if someone who is not from the Quraysh establishes the affair and he becomes the leader, and the person is suitable, it doesn’t mean that we remove him and we say you are not suitable for it. So it is obligatory to have awareness of these matters.
“Allaah’s Messenger sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam came to us whilst we were in the house of a man from the Ansaar so he took hold of the two doorposts and he said, “The rulers are from Quraysh.”
Shaykh al-Albaaniyy said with regard to this narration, “It is a hadeeth that is saheeh (authentic). “
[05] This is also reported by Ibn Abee `Aasim in his book as-Sunnah and at-Tabaraaniyy in al-Mu`jamulKabeer as occurs in the book Majma` uz-Zawaa·id.
tyrannicalmanager
pseudo-intellectual
Bizzaro Habarsteven
No point trying to explain this to these kids, they don't read Arabic, nor have they ever read the description of ancient Arabs and Sahaba. Like the fact that most of them were described as dark in complexion by Sahih hadith, even Omar Suleiman a well known public sheikh mentions this. Yet they will still not believe you.
Cush
Cushite Arab
Their ignorance dumbfounds meNo point trying to explain this to these kids, they don't read Arabic, nor have they ever read the description of ancient Arabs and Sahaba. Like the fact that most of them were described as dark in complexion by Sahih hadith, even Omar Suleiman a well known public sheikh mentions this. Yet they will still not believe you.
I think they have developed such a fear of being labelled as "we wuz" types, that even factual historical information induces dread in them.
No one is trying to claim those ancient people, in fact no one on the planet is the same as them. Humans always travel mix, adapt and change. The ancient Arabs were mostly dark skinned, it is not even a hidden fact.
Any elementary Arabic reader can uncover it in mere hours from historical text!
Yes
The dream lives on sxbAnd my day dream of the Caliphate of Kush will remain a dream
I know Arabic and none of your nonsense is even true or factNo point trying to explain this to these kids, they don't read Arabic, nor have they ever read the description of ancient Arabs and Sahaba. Like the fact that most of them were described as dark in complexion by Sahih hadith, even Omar Suleiman a well known public sheikh mentions this. Yet they will still not believe you.
So we're qualified to lead the ummah ??The dream lives on sxbView attachment 307617
According to Wikipedia…yesSo we're qualified to lead the ummah ??
Say salam alaykum to your new caliph
Khamriiste waan ku salaamay.
What’s your clan?And so the Ottomans weren't a real caliphate according to these people.
And my day dream of the Caliphate of Kush will remain a dream
If you are Darood then why not as our lineage originates from Arab Quraysh
However if you are Irir then no because you are descended from African Samaale.
You laugh, but the Hashemites controlling a united Arab Kingdom would have made the Region 100x better.
Obviously through, continued rule from Constantinople would have been better for everyone
Somali Arabs with Hashemite/Quraysh origins can stake a claim to the Caliph's throne.
It is preferable for the caliph to be Qurayshi this is widely agreed upon by the scholars of Ahlul Sunnah. This ties back to the other thread I made about lineage superiority, some lineages are better than others. Would you rather have a caliph from Hejaz or a caliph from Islamabad? We must be realistic
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