Musa gives Ethiopia a port and a military base on the Gulf of Aden. It's over

Oromo are already settled around 30km away from the Somaliland (Somalia) border. They will have a continuous settlement stretching from the border of South Sudan to the Red Sea.
not okay at all
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There is a reason why few somalis ever invest in Ethiopia outside of the Somali region and it's because they view somalis differently than say oromos, tigrayans, amharas or other minorities. They view us a people to subjugated and that as long there is an independent somali nation that is not a region of ethiopia, there will always exist for them a threat of irredentism. The people cheerleading this do they not don't understand that isaaqs in the SR are also oppressed? Do they think that Jail Ogaden is just a place for people from that clan?
Jail Ogaden was founded by an Isaaq man actually @Qeelbax is that why you hate us
 
A new low, Ethiopia hasn't even recognised them through any channel.

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Muse "Murtad" Bixi, anything for potential recognition.

On the official youtube channel for the announcement you have Habesha gaalo talking about this being a key step to reconquer the bab el mandeb, Arabia and destroy the Kaaba while "thanking" Somaliland.

And yet you have fools in this thread supporting this due to qabil.



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Muse Bihi is a dumb mf, his mandate is over how can he sign such a catastrophic MOU while he is on 1 year term extension?
Is there any chance SL parliament reject this deal and make it null? Because at this point this is the latest opportunity left to stop this madness.
 
For now we have to wait and see if this will actually go through. HSM is being silenr right now but should make a stance on this by tomorrow.

Sadly, this sort of stuff would never have happened if Somalia actually got its shit together and didn't allow Somaliland to do whatever it wanted. Muse is already on his way to becoming the biggest traitor to this country since Abdullahi Yusuf.
 
The Russians first established forts and bases with permission from rival Khanates initially for trade, then added soldiers to guard trade routes. Those bases expanded, more and more soldiers came, until they began to outright take over. By the end of the century the entire region was Russian, only took 30 years. The only reason they didn't get completely genocided is because of Bolshevik takeover of the Russian state.

Where have I heard of a triangle before?

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You don’t have to go that far back. Just look at the case of Crimea for comparison. You had Russia who claimed the territory as historical Russian territory (a similarity we’ve seen from the reaction/statements of Ethiopian politicians today).

After the establishment of the Ukrainian state, Russia was allowed to have their military and navy on leased coastal land in a strategic region for 25 years (also resembles this agreement).

If their relations were to turn sour, Ethiopia could pull the same move as Russia for all we know. This may sound far-fetched, but given Ethiopia’s rhetoric of the past months, it strikes very similar in their language. In the end, neither can/could face Ethiopia/Russia on their own (without foreign assistance).
 
HSM signed it off. Muuse Bixi is just igu sawir. Ethiopia knows Bixi has no authority. This was all done in Djibouti.
Based on what, what could he possible gain from this? He's strategy was to have SL rejoin but not as a FMS so that he could use it to end federalism via a North-South powersharing agreement.
For now we have to wait and see if this will actually go through. HSM is being silenr right now but should make a stance on this by tomorrow.

Sadly, this sort of stuff would never have happened if Somalia actually got its shit together and didn't allow Somaliland to do whatever it wanted. Muse is already on his way to becoming the biggest traitor to this country since Abdullahi Yusuf.
Not even close, the Bush administration were some major handhicaabin who had blank check on anything post-9/11. They were going to go in regardless of whether he was on board or not.
 
From a legal perspective, there is the Compact Clause in International law, which applies here, which prevents States from engaging in Agreements with foreign nations, and the Fed. Parliament, both Chambers, could nullify this MoU. Let us hope it does not come to that, and the SL Parliament could do the honours in tossing it into the dusbin.
 
He probably went to Djibouti and got told "The jig is up, save yourself and join the rest of somalia as a FMS because if you can't hold Sool and Sanaag then we're not dealing with you as an equal entity Γ  la former Italian Somaliland v. former British Somaliland.", got mad and took up the Ethiopians on a deal they probably gave him a few months back when Abiy was chimping out about access to the sea.
I suspect Muse went to Addis because of the above because without full control of Sool and Sanaag they can't really seperate as the former entity of British Somaliland leaving the union nor can they rejoin Somalia through some kind of North-South powersharing agreement. They were probably told to rejoin as another FMS. With that choice and Muse being less cerebral than his predecessors he probably went for the nuclear option offered by Abiy.
From a legal perspective, there is the Compact Clause in International law, which applies here, which prevents States from engaging in Agreements with foreign nations, and the Fed. Parliament, both Chambers, could nullify this MoU. Let us hope it does not come to that, and the SL Parliament could do the honours in tossing it into the dusbin.
Do we even have such a clause in the Federal Republic? It's nothing new that FMS deal with foreign countries, it's a grey area but both the FMS and FGS tend to more or less let it be when it's related some kind of FDI but not when it's giving Ethiopia of all countries a naval port/base.
 
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