I love how you 2 dismiss any criticsm these guys have by just attacking their characters and saying they are losers. The numbers dont lie....less and less men want to get married or stay in long term relationship. Most marriages end in divorce and men more than ever dont want to provide for women. Thats where society is heading.
Why would you want to marry when you can get the milk for free without buying the cow? Men have more options now more than ever which is why I find MTGOW men to be the biggest losers ever and they would have probably died celibate if they lived a century ago when men really had to provide and prove themselves if they wanted a woman.
Men have it easier now. They get no strings attached sex without having to fulfill any sort of responsibilities. As a man all you have to do is be reasonably attractive, charismatic and pay for a couple dates here and there and you have your pickings of women who will sleep with you in the west.