Muhammad Ali is much taller obviously hes not gonna be a unit, thats basic human physiology
More somali guys need to hit the gym
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Both men and women need to lose weight. We looked better during the Siad Barre days. We need to bring that look back.
Idilinaa
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You often see Somalis with certain physical traits frailty, thinness, obesity or low muscle mass because many are not in optimal health. Nutrient deficiencies are surprisingly common, especially in iron, vitamin A, and vitamin D. These deficiencies largely stem from diet and lifestyle rather than genetics.
For example, overconsumption of milk (which inhibits iron absorption) without enough red meat can lead to iron deficiency. Low vitamin D is often due to limited sun exposure and indoor urban living, while vitamin A is typically lacking in diets with few vegetables or animal fats.
Looking through historical accounts, Somali fishermen were consistently described as robust, muscular, and energetic followed by agro-pastoralists. At the bottom were urban dwellers, often viewed as frail or undernourished or overweight at times. These town populations consumed high amounts of oil, rice, and milk, with little meat and minimal physical activity, sound familiar?
This traditional reer magaalo (urban dweller) lifestyle has more or less continued today. Coffee has been replaced with khat, and physical activity has dropped even more. What’s important here is that many of the physical traits Somalis associate with "ethnic appearance" like being slim, frailty or obesity may actually be symptoms of chronic undernutrition or overconsumption of empty calories linked to lifestyle rather than anything inherent or genetic.
What really drives this point home is how dramatically people’s appearance changes when they shift to a higher-protein diet and engage in physical activity. Look at the transformation of that Somali guy who trained to become a sprinter or past examples like the African long jump champion of Somali background. These athletes prove Somalis can excel in explosive, strength-based sports not just endurance if the right conditions are in place.
And contrary to popular belief, there’s no strong genetic evidence that East Africans are “naturally built” for endurance. Consider this peer-reviewed study:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
And a 2024 meta-analysis summed it up even more clearly:
www.degruyterbrill.com
The real "advantage" is high-altitude training (2,000–3,000 m) that boosts oxygen efficiency, plus early aerobic training, strong community support, and a culture of athletic excellence.
Also worth noting: Somali runners Ayanleh Souleiman and Abdi Bile were middle-distance champions, not long-distance runners. Mo Farah, a long-distance legend, attributes much of his success to training in high-altitude Kenya, learning from the best Kenyan athletes in Iten home to many world-class runners.
Bottom line is this, instead of leaning on vague ideas of genetics, Somalis should focus on improving their nutrition, lifestyle, and access to athletic development. The potential is there, it just needs to be unlocked.
For example, overconsumption of milk (which inhibits iron absorption) without enough red meat can lead to iron deficiency. Low vitamin D is often due to limited sun exposure and indoor urban living, while vitamin A is typically lacking in diets with few vegetables or animal fats.
Looking through historical accounts, Somali fishermen were consistently described as robust, muscular, and energetic followed by agro-pastoralists. At the bottom were urban dwellers, often viewed as frail or undernourished or overweight at times. These town populations consumed high amounts of oil, rice, and milk, with little meat and minimal physical activity, sound familiar?
This traditional reer magaalo (urban dweller) lifestyle has more or less continued today. Coffee has been replaced with khat, and physical activity has dropped even more. What’s important here is that many of the physical traits Somalis associate with "ethnic appearance" like being slim, frailty or obesity may actually be symptoms of chronic undernutrition or overconsumption of empty calories linked to lifestyle rather than anything inherent or genetic.
What really drives this point home is how dramatically people’s appearance changes when they shift to a higher-protein diet and engage in physical activity. Look at the transformation of that Somali guy who trained to become a sprinter or past examples like the African long jump champion of Somali background. These athletes prove Somalis can excel in explosive, strength-based sports not just endurance if the right conditions are in place.
And contrary to popular belief, there’s no strong genetic evidence that East Africans are “naturally built” for endurance. Consider this peer-reviewed study:
Genotypes and distance running : clues from Africa - PubMed
A look at the medal podium in almost any international sporting competition reveals that some athletes and certain countries enjoy regular success in particular events. While environmental influences such as training and diet are important, it is likely that there is also some genetic component...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
And a 2024 meta-analysis summed it up even more clearly:
Why the dominance of East Africans in distance running? A narrative review
Introduction Runners from East Africa including Kenya, Ethiopia and Uganda have dominated middle- and long-distance running events, for almost six decades. This narrative review examines and updates current understanding of the factors explaining the dominance of East Africans in distance...
The real "advantage" is high-altitude training (2,000–3,000 m) that boosts oxygen efficiency, plus early aerobic training, strong community support, and a culture of athletic excellence.
Also worth noting: Somali runners Ayanleh Souleiman and Abdi Bile were middle-distance champions, not long-distance runners. Mo Farah, a long-distance legend, attributes much of his success to training in high-altitude Kenya, learning from the best Kenyan athletes in Iten home to many world-class runners.
Bottom line is this, instead of leaning on vague ideas of genetics, Somalis should focus on improving their nutrition, lifestyle, and access to athletic development. The potential is there, it just needs to be unlocked.
Idilinaa
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That being said, we’re definitely seeing a health and fitness shift happening in Somalia.
I remember watching this BBC segment where a Somali nutritionist discussed how people during Ramadan were eating unbalanced meals heavy in sugar, carbs, and oils, but lacking key nutrients like protein and vitamins:
On the bright side, there’s now a visible surge in gym memberships and new gyms opening up in major cities like Mogadishu and Hargeisa:
And this isn’t limited to men. Somali women are also entering the fitness space, with more women-only gyms opening and promoting wellness:
Pioneering women's fitness in Mogadishu – DW – 12/02/2020
Women's gyms are a rarity in Somalia. A woman leading a gym is even rarer. But that's exactly what Aisha Muhyadin is doing — keeping women fit, building self-confidence and maintaining a thriving business.
www.dw.com
I really hope this trend continues and expands to include more awareness around diet especially for women, who are often overlooked in public health discussions. There’s a lot of potential for lasting change if this momentum is supported culturally and institutionally.
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Is it weird to say when I see grown Somali dudes built like that in public I genuinely get disgusted. How can anyone respect a man who’s comfortable enough to walk in public looking like a fucking skeleton….How are we suppose to beat the luugi baasto stereotype if we got niggas cool with being built this way.
It's not weird to say at all. I literally get annoyed seeing these tall skinny dudes.
skinny is good people are too used to fat people in the west.. every other person got fat stomach and love handles. if u skinny say alx. odds are even skinny folks will one day be fat as u age and hit 30s,40s, and 50s with western diet and slowing metabolism.
people like samoans probably wish they could be naturally skinny they know illnesses come with all that mass. nothing wrong with gym but also dont need to eat eveything in site to try and force on mass
people like samoans probably wish they could be naturally skinny they know illnesses come with all that mass. nothing wrong with gym but also dont need to eat eveything in site to try and force on mass
Riftvalley
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Mo Farah became the cross country champion of his youth area with very little training and whilst living in a chaotic situation. He then went on to became English champion and dominated the European scene. He was finishing around 7th in the world, so he was already an elite fighter before he went to train with the Kenyans. This is a guy who Alberto Salzar described as “one of the weakest athletes he had seen”.You often see Somalis with certain physical traits frailty, thinness, obesity or low muscle mass because many are not in optimal health. Nutrient deficiencies are surprisingly common, especially in iron, vitamin A, and vitamin D. These deficiencies largely stem from diet and lifestyle rather than genetics.
For example, overconsumption of milk (which inhibits iron absorption) without enough red meat can lead to iron deficiency. Low vitamin D is often due to limited sun exposure and indoor urban living, while vitamin A is typically lacking in diets with few vegetables or animal fats.
Looking through historical accounts, Somali fishermen were consistently described as robust, muscular, and energetic followed by agro-pastoralists. At the bottom were urban dwellers, often viewed as frail or undernourished or overweight at times. These town populations consumed high amounts of oil, rice, and milk, with little meat and minimal physical activity, sound familiar?
This traditional reer magaalo (urban dweller) lifestyle has more or less continued today. Coffee has been replaced with khat, and physical activity has dropped even more. What’s important here is that many of the physical traits Somalis associate with "ethnic appearance" like being slim, frailty or obesity may actually be symptoms of chronic undernutrition or overconsumption of empty calories linked to lifestyle rather than anything inherent or genetic.
What really drives this point home is how dramatically people’s appearance changes when they shift to a higher-protein diet and engage in physical activity. Look at the transformation of that Somali guy who trained to become a sprinter or past examples like the African long jump champion of Somali background. These athletes prove Somalis can excel in explosive, strength-based sports not just endurance if the right conditions are in place.
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And contrary to popular belief, there’s no strong genetic evidence that East Africans are “naturally built” for endurance. Consider this peer-reviewed study:
Genotypes and distance running : clues from Africa - PubMed
A look at the medal podium in almost any international sporting competition reveals that some athletes and certain countries enjoy regular success in particular events. While environmental influences such as training and diet are important, it is likely that there is also some genetic component...
And a 2024 meta-analysis summed it up even more clearly:
Why the dominance of East Africans in distance running? A narrative review
Introduction Runners from East Africa including Kenya, Ethiopia and Uganda have dominated middle- and long-distance running events, for almost six decades. This narrative review examines and updates current understanding of the factors explaining the dominance of East Africans in distance...
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The real "advantage" is high-altitude training (2,000–3,000 m) that boosts oxygen efficiency, plus early aerobic training, strong community support, and a culture of athletic excellence.
Also worth noting: Somali runners Ayanleh Souleiman and Abdi Bile were middle-distance champions, not long-distance runners. Mo Farah, a long-distance legend, attributes much of his success to training in high-altitude Kenya, learning from the best Kenyan athletes in Iten home to many world-class runners.
Bottom line is this, instead of leaning on vague ideas of genetics, Somalis should focus on improving their nutrition, lifestyle, and access to athletic development. The potential is there, it just needs to be unlocked.
What you guys fail to understand is that there could have been at least 6 other mo Farahs in the UK. I know some of them. They all fell off From long distance athletics due to concentrating on football, lack of parental support and doing other “recreational” stuff. I know a Somali guy who raced Mo Farah when he was young and the dude finished around 40th in the whole uk despite being a heavy smoker. Somali boys used to dominate the cross country runs in my area. They were regularly beating cadaans from running clubs.
It simply does not make sense for people from a refugee country to be on average much better suited to long distance running than Europeans and west Africans who have access to better nutrition and training at a tougher age.
The other point you guys fail to understand is that it is simply abnormal to run such quick 400 metres at the end of long distance races. While high altitude training can help in this regard, there is also a genetic element as to why Cushitics and nilo Saharan’s can finish that fast. We are able to efficiently use fast twitch and slow twitch fibres at the same time. Mo Farah actually has natural speed faster than most humans. He just doesn’t have the speed of a 100 metre runner. East African bodies also have smaller ankles, thin longer limbs, which all helps give advantages like accelerating with longer strides with less effort Exerted.
If there was 4 billion dollars spent on creating Somali 100 sprinters, it would still almost be impossible to create Olympic champions or develop a successful culture like that of Jamaica/african Americans.
On the other hand, spending the same amount of money on creating long distance runners would yield better results.
The Dutch bro is an anomaly in my opinion. He has some insane freak 100/200 metres speed which most Somalis do not have. Somali kids and all other ethnicity btw are on average slower in the 100 metres speed compared to AA and Niger Congos. The reason why he trained and bulked him is because he was lightening quick from a young age, it is not that he bulked up and become a speed merchant. Go to any high school in the inner community in the UK and the 100 metre/200 metre sprint is always won by a madow. There are barely any Somalis kids with insane 100/200 metre at the age of 10. There is so much training and good nutrition can help you attain this. Sadly, a good portion of these traits are inherited. Anyone who claims otherwise is lying.
But of course there is no genetic reason as to why British Caribbean and west Africans dominate sprinting in an island of 60 million whites. Sure, Somalis could do this as well if they trained and eat more muufo
Same coincidence in France
And Holland.
Diophantus
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Even if i wasn't somali saxib (i am btw, no clue why you think am not?), it still wouldn't make your post right.
Idilinaa
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Mo Farah became the cross country champion of his youth area with very little training and whilst living in a chaotic situation. He then went on to became English champion and dominated the European scene. He was finishing around 7th in the world, so he was already an elite fighter before he went to train with the Kenyans. This is a guy who Alberto Salzar described as “one of the weakest athletes he had seen”.
What you guys fail to understand is that there could have been at least 6 other mo Farahs in the UK. I know some of them. They all fell off From long distance athletics due to concentrating on football, lack of parental support and doing other “recreational” stuff. I know a Somali guy who raced Mo Farah when he was young and the dude finished around 40th in the whole uk despite being a heavy smoker. Somali boys used to dominate the cross country runs in my area. They were regularly beating cadaans from running clubs.
It simply does not make sense for people from a refugee country to be on average much better suited to long distance running than Europeans and west Africans who have access to better nutrition and training at a tougher age.
The other point you guys fail to understand is that it is simply abnormal to run such quick 400 metres at the end of long distance races. While high altitude training can help in this regard, there is also a genetic element as to why Cushitics and nilo Saharan’s can finish that fast. We are able to efficiently use fast twitch and slow twitch fibres at the same time. Mo Farah actually has natural speed faster than most humans. He just doesn’t have the speed of a 100 metre runner. East African bodies also have smaller ankles, thin longer limbs, which all helps give advantages like accelerating with longer strides with less effort Exerted.
If there was 4 billion dollars spent on creating Somali 100 sprinters, it would still almost be impossible to create Olympic champions or develop a successful culture like that of Jamaica/african Americans.
On the other hand, spending the same amount of money on creating long distance runners would yield better results.
The Dutch bro is an anomaly in my opinion. He has some insane freak 100/200 metres speed which most Somalis do not have. Somali kids and all other ethnicity btw are on average slower in the 100 metres speed compared to AA and Niger Congos. The reason why he trained and bulked him is because he was lightening quick from a young age, it is not that he bulked up and become a speed merchant. Go to any high school in the inner community in the UK and the 100 metre/200 metre sprint is always won by a madow. There are barely any Somalis kids with insane 100/200 metre at the age of 10. There is so much training and good nutrition can help you attain this. Sadly, a good portion of these traits are inherited. Anyone who claims otherwise is lying.
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But of course there is no genetic reason as to why British Caribbean and west Africans dominate sprinting in an island of 60 million whites. Sure, Somalis could do this as well if they trained and eat more muufo
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Same coincidence in France
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And Holland.
Those athletes bring with them not just their genetics, but also their socio-economic background, culture, and motivation factors that deeply influence development even after moving to Europe.
When we talk about athletic performance, it's rarely just about 'raw genetics.' There are biomechanical and physiological traits often cited like longer limbs, shorter torsos, high muscle mass around the glutes and thighs, and lean body composition which can confer advantages in specific sports like long-distance running. These are often found in African populations, and yes, they show up in research and meta-analyses.
But even those traits aren't a golden ticket. There are trade-offs like how shorter legs and longer torsos (more common in other populations) can generate more ground force, which is advantageous for sprinting. It’s really about maximizing your own physiology with smart training and support.
Mo Farah and the Somali sprinting champion from the Netherlands prove that Somalis, with the right conditions, can thrive in both endurance and speed-based sports. Back during the Kacaan era, Somalia’s state-supported athletics led to international success in basketball, volleyball, and football showing how environment and institutional backing can unleash potential. Produced a middle distance world champion and an African long jump champion in a span of just 5 years.
That’s why I always say: let's stop obsessing over aesthetics, 'genetic ceilings', or arbitrary comparisons. The real focus should be on building long-term health, functional fitness, and enabling environments for Somali youth to thrive.
If you look into the fitness industry, you’ll notice how it profits from insecurities. PEDs, eating disorders, bigorexia, and even harmful restrictive diets like extreme veganism are rampant. Many people aren’t really healthy or athletic they’re projecting filtered, unrealistic ideals and linking them to race or genetics. That mindset limits more than it liberates.
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