Meeting between FGS and FMS fails. FGS declares Puntland & Jubbaland ‘spoilers’.

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

Excluding the first condition, this is all a non-starter. It seems like their (JL & PL) goal is to make increasingly ridiculous demands in order to stymie the entire election process. I am glad the FGS have publicly called them out. The only question is what happens next.

That is not rediculoys demand its what every sane leader would do.
Neither Madhoobe nor Deni will he part of election they just want the elections to be fair and not like the one that happened in Konfur Galbeed or Galmudug.

 

[MT Foxtrot]

That is not rediculoys demand its what every sane leader would do.
Neither Madhoobe nor Deni will he part of election they just want the elections to be fair and not like the one that happened in Konfur Galbeed or Galmudug.

But why focus on changing the leadership of the SNA, SPF, and NISA then? It seems like an arbitrary concern especially in the light of the fact both JL and PL maintain their own armed forces.

 

[Eggman]

That is not rediculoys demand its what every sane leader would do.
Neither Madhoobe nor Deni will he part of election they just want the elections to be fair and not like the one that happened in Konfur Galbeed or Galmudug.

It is crazy ridiculous, they want to abolish the whole government and create a new transitional government. It is complelty mad and the whole aim is to break everything.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

But why focus on changing the leadership of the SNA, SPF, and NISA then? It seems like an arbitrary concern especially in the light of the fact both JL and PL maintain their own armed forces.

So that they dont threaten civilians like they did in Baidoa & Galmudug.
We know how the elections was stolen.
Also SNA,SPF & NISA are a national agency and should not be used for cheap political shots.
Have you seen FBI or CIA or US Army being used for cheap political games?
They should stay impartial and serve the country not regime.

Even in Kenya KDF has never been used to side with politucs even with the president even in 2008 election violence KDF did not take sides.

 

[codewebsduh]

They are avoiding this question.

NIEC asked for 1 year early last year and funds for the election to take place. Opposition quickly said no extension etc.

Its been more then a year since that statement, we can have another extension to form elections.

Its time to remove the BS, we need to see who the public support. From Badjan to Beled Xawo we need voting.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

It is crazy ridiculous, they want to abolish the whole government and create a new transitional government. It is complelty mad and the whole aim is to break everything.

Yes because the current govt mandate is over.
All these exercise shoyld have been carried out within the 4 years Farmajo was in power.
If he had confidence and trust one man one vote should have happened prior Feb 8th and not looking for excuses to get extension like Abye of Ethiopia who has over stayed.
Somalia cant afford to have another Abye stunt we know actions have consequences.

There was no president in Somalia history that was more powerful than MSB and still he was deposed.Do you think Farmajo hiding under AMISOM tanks can out do MSB who was the most powerful President in the Horn of Africa?
Somalia will never return to dictatorial regime or Centralism.
Lets learn from history and heal the nation.
Or else wait for anarchy to kick in like What is happening in Ethiopia.

 

[Mozart]

NIEC asked for 1 year early last year and funds for the election to take place. Opposition quickly said no extension etc.

Its been more then a year since that statement, we can have another extension to form elections.

Its time to remove the BS, we need to see who the public support. From Badjan to Beled Xawo we need voting.

Democratic elections are a minimum 5 year process lol you need a roadmap, census, beat al-shabaab, establish parties, trial elections in certain regions and solve the Somaliland issue one way or the other.

So it’s essentially another free term for the current government. If they cared, they would have worked on some of these things from the get go.

 

[Waaqmasho]

Democratic elections are a minimum 5 year process lol you need a roadmap, census, beat al-shabaab, establish parties and trial elections in certain regions. So it’s essentially another free term for the current government. If they cared, they would have worked on some of these things from the get go.

They worked from the beginning. You think Xalim yare guddi was established in 2020?

 

[kickz]

Looks like Parliament will have to decide this.

 

[Mozart]

They worked from the beginning. You think Xalim yare guddi was established in 2020?

How many of those issues have been solved ? They haven’t succeeded on any over 4 years and you think they’ll get it done in 2 years ?

 

[Eggman]

Yes because the current govt mandate is over.
All these exercise shoyld have been carried out within the 4 years Farmajo was in power.
If he had confidence and trust one man one vote should have happened prior Feb 8th and not looking for excuses to get extension like Abye of Ethiopia who has over stayed.
Somalia cant afford to have another Abye stunt we know actions have consequences.

There was no president in Somalia history that was more powerful than MSB and still he was deposed.Do you think Farmajo hiding under AMISOM tanks can out do MSB who was the most powerful President in the Horn of Africa?
Somalia will never return to dictatorial regime or Centralism.
Lets learn from history and heal the nation.
Or else wait for anarchy to kick in like What is happening in Ethiopia.

We are in this state because the opposition ran out the clock without voting to force a crisis because none of them can beat him in an election.

There were agreements made which they reneged on.

How do you call him a dictator and compare to MSB when it is the opposition refusing to hold elections and creating a parallel government.

Why not hold the elections on the already agreed terms. Instead of trying to overthrow the government, going as far as calling for the IC to remove an elected president.

 

[Waaqmasho]

Deni and madoobe crying to IC that election talks didn't fail and they are in consultation.

 

[Waaqmasho]

Deni and Madoobe know what's coming if the talks failed.

 

[repo]

We are in this state because the opposition ran out the clock without voting to force a crisis because none of them can beat him in an election.

There were agreements made which they reneged on.

How do you call him a dictator and compare to MSB when it is the opposition refusing to hold elections and creating a parallel government.

Why not hold the elections on the already agreed terms. Instead of trying to overthrow the government, going as far as calling for the IC to remove an elected president.

No, we are in this mess because Farmaajo failed. He had 4 years to make those elections happen, we won't reward him for his failure with an extension. Suffice to say we do take comfort in his failures. Failure, failure and more failure!

 

[Calaf]

Just as I thought you are sane from quuleyosis.

Did I lie? If Farmajo returns, don't you think he would be hellbent on getting some sought of "revenge". Do you think Madoobe is doing this for the sake of Somalinimo iyo Wallalnimo. No, his kursi is at risk when elections in JL occur. If Farmajo wins, he out stays both Madoobe and Deni. Whose going to take that non calculated risk? Nobody.

 

[repo]

How many of those issues have been solved ? They haven’t succeeded on any over 4 years and you think they’ll get it done in 2 years ?

Another question they are avoiding.

 

[Eggman]

No, we are in this mess because Farmaajo failed. He had 4 years to make those elections happen, we won't reward him for his failure with an extension. Suffice to say we do take comfort in his failures. Failure, failure and more failure!

How can you hold elections when the other side is refusing and then call it a failure. Just hold the elections as already agreed upon.

 

[Rivaldo]

Here is what needs to happen. Everybody go their separate ways, not talk until somebody ultimately wins, and forces their will.

FGS should capture Bu’aale, hold new JL collections while starting to deploy troops to Puntland. Easier course then all that, simply arrest Deni, Madoobe.

Remind me how that worked out when you tried the same thing 30 years ago?

Caqli bo0n marehan

 

[BigBreak]

Bringing Puntland under control is a medium to long term task

 

[Waaqmasho]

Remind me how that worked out when you tried the same thing 30 years ago?

Caqli bo0n marehan

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