It’s simple, better integration programs. Why is it that Somalis do much better in Arab or non western countries vs western countries? It’s because Arab culture and other traditional ways of life are very similar to Somali culture.
Nations like Sweden are completely alien to Somalia who came from small tuulos and qaxooti camps. There needs to be a better integration process to help them get into society.
Things are changing. Western Abdis attitudes to parenting is vastly different to that of their fathers generation. Most understand that getting your wife to pop out 8 kids and doing your rounds at different Somali cafes in London is unacceptable. Quality over quantity and present fathers is the new wave.
I know western born or raised somali men are not gonna raise criminals, the problem is new FOBs and the earlier qaxootis. There will be no somali criminals in the future, but unfortunately not in the short-term.
A failed Western Somali gangster is going to raise upstanding citizens?
If that’s the case why haven’t black people escaped the hood for the last 100 years?
The only successful Somali kids will be those raised by already successful parents who’ve moved out of council estates. That will be a minority soon enough.
You still blaming governments and these articles don't give the full picture of why somalis behave that way ...as other people said here somali become a good citizens when there is strict law..Malaysia@Angelina we are talking about the ones born in Sweden.
Even if we take gulf countries out the equation what about Somalis in Turkey or Malaysia? Crime participation isn’t as high as western Somalis
I agree the punishment system in the gulf is harsher but what about the ones born outside of Somalia? You can deport reer Sweden men once they’re are born there. It’s an integration issue because immigrant families are in ghettos and in their own worlds outside of Sweden. Read the article links about integration I posted earlier
Smart guy. To understand Somalis you need to see them through this lens.You still blaming governments and these articles don't give the full picture of why somalis behave that way ...as other people said here somali become a good citizens when there is strict law..Malaysia
have strict policy regarding drugs it is death penalty there they throw cadan and other Africans who bring drugs to their country in harsh jail.
Somalis in Turkey are fairly new refugees and most of them don't stay and rather leave to Europe because Turkey don't have welfare like Sweden so you can't compare . FYI turksih are savage people and if you misbehave their people will punish before you get to police, look up on the stories of what they done to Syrian refugees ...
Somali choose chaos over peace if there is not strict law and punishment because if we are law obedient citizens Somalia would not a failed state for over 30 years and that's fact
Thankfully you watched the video sxb1. The guy who is being interviewed, Asad, works as a correctional officer.
2. Maryooley niman are doing the most killing is sweden, war illeen balaayo.
3. Most of the boys who end up as criminals are from broken homes ( no aabo, hooyo can’t handle the kids).
Sad state of affairs.
Somalis only obey the law through dictatorship, especially military dictatorship. Somalis don’t obey the law through democracy etc, Somalis are a chaos group without fear and punishment. Why do you think Somalis are a miskeen law abiding citizens in the Middle East particularly in UAE and Saudi Arabia? Because those countries are not softies like the western countries, they en force the law with strict rules and regulations and if you commit a crime, you are finished.You still blaming governments and these articles don't give the full picture of why somalis behave that way ...as other people said here somali become a good citizens when there is strict law..Malaysia
have strict policy regarding drugs it is death penalty there they throw cadan and other Africans who bring drugs to their country in harsh jail.
Somalis in Turkey are fairly new refugees and most of them don't stay and rather leave to Europe because Turkey don't have welfare like Sweden so you can't compare . FYI turksih are savage people and if you misbehave their people will punish before you get to police, look up on the stories of what they done to Syrian refugees ...
Somali choose chaos over peace if there is not strict law and punishment because if we are law obedient citizens Somalia would not a failed state for over 30 years and that's fact
We should separate laws from our democracy tbh.Somalis only obey the law through dictatorship, especially military dictatorship. Somalis don’t obey the law through democracy etc, Somalis are a chaos group without fear and punishment. Why do you think Somalis are a miskeen law abiding citizens in the Middle East particularly in UAE and Saudi Arabia? Because those countries are not softies like the western countries, they en force the law with strict rules and regulations and if you commit a crime, you are finished.
I know Siad barre committed mass massacres etc and he was a war criminal, but for the last 22 years of his regime in Somalia, he knew how to control Somalis, Somalis used to shiver down their spine if they had broke any law back then. Look at Somalia now, still chaos 33 years later.
Hold up, suprisingly there a lot of Somali boys raised in ethnic minority areas who are doing well for themselves. They might not be ultra successful, but they're professionals working in tech, medicine, teaching ect and they're married to fellow Somali girls.A failed Western Somali gangster is going to raise upstanding citizens?
If that’s the case why haven’t black people escaped the hood for the last 100 years?
The only successful Somali kids will be those raised by already successful parents who’ve moved out of council estates. That will be a minority.
Also let’s not forget a successful black male tends to marry ajnabis. So you’ll lose them from your community
Majority do marry Somali women, but Angelina stop the nagging etc then the majority will increase even further .Hold up, suprisingly there a lot of Somali boys raised in ethnic minority areas who are doing well for themselves. They might not be ultra successful, but they're professionals working in tech, medicine, teaching ect and they're married to fellow Somali girls.
The vast majority of Somali men marry Somali women. I don't know where you get the myth that successful Somali men marry ajnabi comes from.
Hold up, suprisingly there a lot of Somali boys raised in ethnic minority areas who are doing well for themselves. They might not be ultra successful, but they're professionals working in tech, medicine, teaching ect and they're married to fellow Somali girls.
The vast majority of Somali men marry Somali women. I don't know where you get the myth that successful Somali men marry ajnabi comes from.
Excetly, btw I born and rised and UAE and I know how harsh and strict UAE laws regarding gangs and drugs activities ... I will let you story in my neighbourhood somali boys were starting post code wars or neighbourhood wars in UAE back in late 90s my own brother did not get involved but he was just standing and watching the fights, when the police find out they collect all these young somali boys sent them one way ticket to Somalia...and ones who have citizens and ones who was watching the fight my brother included got 100 lashes and harsh jail time as if they did zina ..there was not a single gang or neighbourhood wars activity happened in UAE between Somalis after that incident. As you said somali thrive and do better in Muslims and middle east countries despite living sometimes in lower class areas because there is no welfare system like Europe so family are forced to stay together and harsh and strict laws regarding chaos and drugs.Smart guy. To understand Somalis you need to see them through this lens.
We are a 68iq community who top crime statistics everyone in the world where there isn’t strict law.
As you said about Turkey we are new migrants. But even already problems are starting. Somalis are becoming unpopular as they bring crime to Turkish communities. I give it a few years before there’s a massive hate campaign that forces all Somalis, even good one’s to run away from that country.
The only countries Somalis are suited to are Islamic countries with strong rule of law. Our cultures are successfully integrated into Arab countries like the UAE and the rule of law keeps us in check in case we wild out like we eventually do everywhere in the world.
Somali government needs to learn from Saudi Arabia and UAE. We must give death penalties for anyone caught in drug/alcohol smuggling and life imprisonment for tuugo. Maybe then Somalia can develop a functioning state.
I have no hope for Western Somalis. I would advise them to aim to be successful and move because eventually down the line anyone you father/grandfather will adopt the culture 80% of Somali males have done.
It’s simple, better integration programs. Why is it that Somalis do much better in Arab or non western countries vs western countries? It’s because Arab culture and other traditional ways of life are very similar to Somali culture.
Nations like Sweden are completely alien to Somalia who came from small tuulos and qaxooti camps. There needs to be a better integration process to help them get into society.
Sweden doesn’t keep stats on ethnicity and crime. So can you tell me how you know Somalis top the list of murders compared to other immigrant populations?You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.