Maamul goboledka cusub Waqooyi-Bari (north east state)- the newest federal state in Somalia

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Abdisamad said:
Somaliland ideology is a forced ideology, exhibit a..the man in video is clearly uncomfortable, body language doesn't lie, and also the whispers around him forcing him to use certain words.. Some khat head would tell you we have democracy Saar :snoop:


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This ugaas is a weakling he has surrenderd. Why is he in Borama even he know the secessionist would dishoner him
 
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Itsnotthateasy

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Abdisamad said:
@Stonkz @Abu Hesi @Heavy Mountains and the rest of the SSC folks I did not quote.. Keep up the pressure brothers and never put yourself in a weak position that would enable the seccesionists to invade and take over an inch of your land, as a matter of fact I would encourage you to liberate more land and return it to Somalia.. Also if god forbid PL becomes a seccesionist rogue state we have to stop it.. We have to catch it and put straps around it like a mental asylum patient to contain it and slowly cure it.
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Why do you never suggest reform of Somalia not just a change of President but actual political development. SSC rebels cannot take land from Somaliland. They are either considered a part of Somaliland or Somalia depending on recognition of Somaliland. They cannot contain PL if it decides to go for indpendence.
At the end of the day a political settlement has to be reached and it's not based on empty ideology. That won't work anymore.


Even here you can see that the fmr US ambassador to Somalia calls recognition of this state "unilateral". He is a supporter of Somalia and he understands this was a blunder that delegitimizes Mogadishu. He said Mogadishu and Hargeisa have to negotiate. The influence of China just makes things even worse for Mogadishu.

You can see even worse is all this Hawiye politician cares about is that HSM is using it for elections, not the long term political settlement of Somaliland - Somaila issue or the federalism issue. The Hawiye competing for presidency of Somalia have two goals - attack and undermine Somaliland in anyway and get HSM out of the villa. This is why Somalia is toast. You can take that to the bank.
 
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Stonkz

Itsnotthateasy said:
Why do you never suggest reform of Somalia not just a change of President but actual political development. SSC rebels cannot take land from Somaliland. They are either considered a part of Somaliland or Somalia depending on recognition of Somaliland. They cannot contain PL if it decides to go for indpendence.
At the end of the day a political settlement has to be reached and it's not based on empty ideology. That won't work anymore.


Even here you can see that the fmr US ambassador to Somalia calls recognition of this state "unilateral". He is a supporter of Somalia and he understands this was a blunder that delegitimizes Mogadishu. He said Mogadishu and Hargeisa have to negotiate. The influence of China just makes things even worse for Mogadishu.

You can see even worse is all this Hawiye politician cares about is that HSM is using it for elections, not the long term political settlement of Somaliland - Somaila issue or the federalism issue. The Hawiye competing for presidency of Somalia have two goals - attack and undermine Somaliland in anyway and get HSM out of the villa. This is why Somalia is toast. You can take that to the bank.
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Whole lot of yap, good luck leaving Somalia with Sambusa state
 
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Stonkz

Abdisamad said:
@Stonkz @Abu Hesi @Heavy Mountains and the rest of the SSC folks I did not quote.. Keep up the pressure brothers and never put yourself in a weak position that would enable the seccesionists to invade and take over an inch of your land, as a matter of fact I would encourage you to liberate more land and return it to Somalia.. Also if god forbid PL becomes a seccesionist rogue state we have to stop it.. We have to catch it and put straps around it like a mental asylum patient to contain it and slowly cure it.
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Nobody is leaving, we’re putting the idoors in a headlock

ignoring the jaded PL folks for the most part, would be nice to get along but whatever for now
 
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Stonkz said:
Whole lot of yap, good luck leaving Somalia with Sambusa state
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Mogadishu is scared Somaliland will be recognized and they will be abandoned.

Somaliland recognition will include 1960s borders after that Mogadishu will move on, so it's better to just save your time.

Mogadishu's failure has been pretty much total, failed to create federalism or centralism, failed to defeat alshabaab. They don't have legitimacy to involve themselves doesn't matter if people hold meetings and make town hall or hire speakers or whatever logos they make. There's no foundation for it.

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