Looks and sociability can take you WAY further in the corporate world than competence.

[Nak-Muay-Femeu]

There's a pajeet and some posh cadaan "Rugby lad" from my intake currently on my team. The two of them are more competent at their job then I am, but there's a night and day difference between how the senior figures in our team interact with me vs how they interact them.

Our manager's the main culprit when it comes to the preferential treatment. She'll take me to meetings with stakeholders and introduces me to them, adds me to important calls with other project leads, give me a heads up about certain things before mentioning it to other two etc. It's favouritism, pure and simple.

The other senior figures aren't as zealous as she is, but they'll still go out of their way to coach me or we'll just chat shit for half an hour and drink coffee whilst the other two are given menial work. Our manager will legit sit across the table from the other two during meetings, it's like she's replused by the idea of being too close to them

I know that looks and being personable play a significant role in our day to day lives, but I didn't think it would be to this extreme in the corporate world. It's the exact same cliquey shit from secondary school and uni wallahi. I've witnessed the exact same thing happen with the other non-austistic lads/girls from our intake. They're all given preferential treatment.

Quick heads to Faraxs/Xalimos entering the workforce. Being well-liked by your peers/management and taking pride in your appearance carries far more weight than being good at your job.

 

[Angelina]

You find that in most aspects of life. It is, what it is.

 

[Yaraye]

I don't have a way with words

 

[Nak-Muay-Femeu]

I don't have a way with words

You better practise, and quick wallahi. People skills is the number one make or break thing when it comes to working in those environments. I asked one of the seniors who interviews people for roles and he basically said that it ultimately comes down to who they think are a good fit and they wouldn't mind spending 8hrs+ a day with lol

Even if you secure a place, you'll still be overlooked if you're not well-liked. There are people who've legit been in a same-ish position for 5/10+ years whereas their peers shot up the ladder. Same level of education, time within the company etc. Our finance guy is a jacked austistic guy and the programme flat out said "don't end up like X, get your face out there"

 

[jemappelle]

I thought this was obvious information ngl

 

[Nak-Muay-Femeu]

You find that in most aspects of life. It is, what it is.

What shocked me was how pronounced it is. It wasn't nearly this bad at my previous jobs. I didn't quite realise how much of a difference being a normal and like-able person made.

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I thought this was obvious information ngl

Bro it's really not. I'm not sure if it's just a generational thing or something but the zoomers from the most recent intakes are getting absolutely crushed whereas the slightly older people are basically bestbros with management. Most workplaces are straved for normal people who can give a presentation without needing snorting a lines of SSRIs or anti-anxiety meds first loooool

 

[Yaraye]

You better practise, and quick wallahi. People skills is the number one make or break thing when it comes to working in those environments. I asked one of the seniors who interviews people for roles and he basically said that it ultimately comes down to who they think are a good fit and they wouldn't mind spending 8hrs+ a day with lol

Even if you secure a place, you'll still be overlooked if you're not well-liked. There are people who've legit been in a same-ish position for 5/10+ years whereas their peers shot up the ladder. Same level of education, time within the company etc. Our finance guy is a jacked austistic guy and the programme flat out said "don't end up like X, get your face out there"

damn.... I even recently started working in a profession that requires dealing with people a lot. I know my shit, but talking to patients is a bit.....

 

[Nak-Muay-Femeu]

damn.... I even recently started working in a profession that requires dealing with people a lot. I know my shit, but talking to patients is a bit.....

f*ck patients, it's your colleagues and management you need to get on with like a house on fire lol

 

[Yaraye]

f*ck patients, it's your colleagues and management you need to get on with like a house on fire lol

My issue is that I can't read a room. I don't have much tact, and don't know what to say/ when to say it/ and how to say it.

 

[jemappelle]

What shocked me was how pronounced it is. It wasn't nearly this bad at my previous jobs. I didn't quite realise how much of a difference being a normal and like-able person made.

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Bro it's really not. I'm not sure if it's just a generational thing or something but the zoomers from the most recent intakes are getting absolutely crushed whereas the slightly older people are basically bestbros with management. Most workplaces are straved for normal people who can give a presentation without needing snorting a lines of SSRIs or anti-anxiety meds first loooool

For me its obvious, when I look at people around me, in an unfamiliar envornment usually, most smart and well educated people are either from good areas or naturally anti-social and very gifted in intelligence, what this means, and I am not sorry if I offend anyone, but most people in these jobs are weirdos and I don't get along with anyone aswell as I would with people I grew up with, they have different mannerisims way of talking and the like. They also seem very passivw when they talk and not confident.
Cut back to me when I talk, I'm with a bunch of upper class well to do people or naturally born nerds, I have an interview with one of these guys as a practice thing, this guy asks me am I already (whatever the thing I was interviewing for) because I talk like it, then I realise that all these guys have socialising problems, they are just overall weird, when I talk to people in interviews or in general, they seem to love my confident tone and the way I talk even though where I grew up it was normal.
My point being, I always knew that having goof friendships, being able to connect with people is important, and not just being a robot, thats how life works and how you succeed. What surprised me is that some people think the opposite way round, where just your academic work and experiences in work is gonna get you ahead in life, for some people it will, but for most people you just need to be able to get a person to like and trust you.

I think this is more a problem for people who are naturally anti-social or not friendly and talkative and don't vibe with people. For me I kind of just always knew this in the back of my head because all people work like this.

 

[jemappelle]

damn.... I even recently started working in a profession that requires dealing with people a lot. I know my shit, but talking to patients is a bit.....

Your a nurse? Or a HCA?

 

[Awad]

Definitely going into academia with all the other based autists, would rather shoot myself than work with these retards the rest of my life

 

[jemappelle]

Bro it's really not. I'm not sure if it's just a generational thing or something but the zoomers from the most recent intakes are getting absolutely crushed whereas the slightly older people are basically bestbros with management. Most workplaces are straved for normal people who can give a presentation without snorting a line of SSRIs or anti-anxiety meds first loooool

Also yh I agree my generation is F'ed

 

[empressjamila]

I could see that being true in corporate environments but in my field I feel like it matters less. Competence is very important in healthcare. You can be as chatty and sociable as you like but if you can’t get your work done on time or you keep making mistakes you’ll be hated. I’ve seen it myself. The nurses that barely talk but know their shit and help others on the team are respected way more than the chatty patty that makes the shift harder for others on the team cause they don’t know what they’re doing lol.

 

[TheManWhoIsAlive]

There's a pajeet and some posh cadaan "Rugby lad" from my intake currently on my team. The two of them are more competent at their job then I am, but there's a night and day difference between how the senior figures in our team interact with me vs how they interact them.

Our manager's the main culprit when it comes to the preferential treatment. She'll take me to meetings with stakeholders and introduces me to them, adds me to important calls with other project leads, give me a heads up about certain things before mentioning it to other two etc. It's favouritism, pure and simple.

The other senior figures aren't as zealous as she is, but they'll still go out of their way to coach me or we'll just chat shit for half an hour and drink coffee whilst the other two are given menial work. Our manager will legit sit across the table from the other two during meetings, it's like she's replused by the idea of being too close to them

I know that looks and being personable play a significant role in our day to day lives, but I didn't think it would be to this extreme in the corporate world. It's the exact same cliquey shit from secondary school and uni wallahi. I've witnessed the exact same thing happen with the other non-austistic lads/girls from our intake. They're all given preferential treatment.

Quick heads to Faraxs/Xalimos entering the workforce. Being well-liked by your peers/management and taking pride in your appearance carries far more weight than being good at your job.

I work in a big company as a manager (won't give specifics for privacy reasons). This is very true. The thing is that this cannot last forever. Eventually you'll be in a job that's too complex (assuming a person climbed solely due to their looks/personality). Competency catches up one way or another.

 

[jemappelle]

I could see that being true in corporate environments but in my field I feel like it matters less. Competence is very important in healthcare. You can be as chatty and sociable as you like but if you can’t get your work done on time or you keep making mistakes you’ll be hated. I’ve seen it myself. The nurses that barely talk but know their shit and help others on the team are respected way more than the chatty patty that makes the shift harder for others on the team cause they don’t know what they’re doing lol.

Tbh its not just relationships with other nurses, if you are doing bank work or working with an agency its always good to have a good relationship with them as you can get the best pay possible
I don't know which country you are from though so I can't comment on that

 

[Nak-Muay-Femeu]

I work in a big company as a manager (won't give specifics for privacy reasons). This is very true. The thing is that this cannot last forever. Eventually you'll be in a job that's too complex (assuming a person climbed solely due to their looks/personality). Competency catches up one way or another.

Love to see another Somali brother winning

Competency is vital and lack thereof will catch up to you at some point but my point is that you can essentially take a short-cut and get far more mentoring and coaching than your other less socially inclined peers.

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[Nak-Muay-Femeu]

I could see that being true in corporate environments but in my field I feel like it matters less. Competence is very important in healthcare. You can be as chatty and sociable as you like but if you can’t get your work done on time or you keep making mistakes you’ll be hated. I’ve seen it myself. The nurses that barely talk but know their shit and help others on the team are respected way more than the chatty patty that makes the shift harder for others on the team cause they don’t know what they’re doing lol.

You're right, I don't think a lot of this would be applicable in healthcare and in STEM where competence is valued above all else. But I think if someone have an ounce of charisma, then the corporate world is where it's at. All my bros from engineering are doing menial tasks on Revit and working insane hours for shit pay whilst I spend the mornings flirting with the HR lady/manager and then working the rest of the day from home. f*ck STEM wallahi

 

[Yaraye]

Your a nurse? Or a HCA?

nurse, recently got my license

 

[jemappelle]

nurse, recently got my license

u live in UK?