Look in one of my earlier posts. I cited the source that said that through Adulis was widely believed to be the biggest exporter to Rome. And you do realise Eritrea only became a sovereign state in 1993. Ethiopia has only been landlocked for 30 years
"The Red Sea was witness to important events during human history, including the first long steps in a trade network (the spice route) that would drive maritime technology and shape geopolitical fortunes for thousands of years. Punt was a pivotal early node in the rise of this enterprise, serving as an important emporium for luxury goods, including sacred baboons (Papio hamadryas), but its location is disputed. Here, we use geospatial variation in the oxygen and strontium isotope ratios of 155 baboons from 77 locations to estimate the geoprovenance of mummified baboons recovered from ancient Egyptian temples and tombs. Five Ptolemaic specimens of P. anubis (404–40 BC) showed evidence of long-term residency in Egypt prior to mummification, consistent with a captive breeding program. Two New Kingdom specimens of P. hamadryas were sourced to a region that encompasses much of present-day Ethiopia, Eritrea, and Djibouti, and portions of Somalia and Yemen. This result is a testament to the tremendous reach of Egyptian seafaring during the 2nd millennium BC. It also corroborates the balance of scholarly conjecture on the location of Punt."
Lmao you truly think Somalis came anywhere near as close as the noble Axumites?
This might not even be true, its very possible Adulis was its OWN centre of power and Aksum was another, there are accounts based on foreign travellers that Adulis had its own King with his own throne in Adulis, which contained inscriptions detailing conquests within Ethiopia/Eritrea(literally mentions conquering the "Beja", the "Agazi", "Agame" etc...) aswell as Yemen and the Hejaz, this is a good paper which proposes the idea:
Are you half habashi?"The Red Sea was witness to important events during human history, including the first long steps in a trade network (the spice route) that would drive maritime technology and shape geopolitical fortunes for thousands of years. Punt was a pivotal early node in the rise of this enterprise, serving as an important emporium for luxury goods, including sacred baboons (Papio hamadryas), but its location is disputed. Here, we use geospatial variation in the oxygen and strontium isotope ratios of 155 baboons from 77 locations to estimate the geoprovenance of mummified baboons recovered from ancient Egyptian temples and tombs. Five Ptolemaic specimens of P. anubis (404–40 BC) showed evidence of long-term residency in Egypt prior to mummification, consistent with a captive breeding program. Two New Kingdom specimens of P. hamadryas were sourced to a region that encompasses much of present-day Ethiopia, Eritrea, and Djibouti, and portions of Somalia and Yemen. This result is a testament to the tremendous reach of Egyptian seafaring during the 2nd millennium BC. It also corroborates the balance of scholarly conjecture on the location of Punt."
-Mummified baboons reveal the far reach of early Egyptian mariners
Punt has been confirmed to encompass Ethiopia and Eritrea aswell as Somalia
Lmao you truly think Somalis came anywhere near as close as the noble Axumites?
Axum at its height literally dominated Red Sea and Mediterranean trade, Greek/Byzantine merchants frequented in Eritrea/Adulis and many of the elites were said to be able to speak Greek and were even acquainted with Greek literature.
A Persian traveller literally ranked Aksum as a global superpower, up there with Rome, Somalis have never come close to something like this.
This might not even be true, its very possible Adulis was its OWN centre of power and Aksum was another, there are accounts based on foreign travellers that Adulis had its own King with his own throne in Adulis, which contained inscriptions detailing conquests within Ethiopia/Eritrea(literally mentions conquering the "Beja", the "Agazi", "Agame" etc...) aswell as Yemen and the Hejaz, this is a good paper which proposes the idea:
Also worth looking into the Monumentum Adulitanum
No I just speak the truth when it comes to history, so many Somalis on this forum lie about history and its pretty pathetic to say the least.
Okay then tell me what's your opinion on this?
Was I wrong though? Ethiopia or should I say Abyssinia to be more exact was usually landlocked in the Middle Ages though if i remember correctly they sometimes got a shore every now and then.Lmao what a fucking retard, I don't even know what to say at this point
Loollll That baboon Skelton thing has long been debunked by scholars in 2015"The Red Sea was witness to important events during human history, including the first long steps in a trade network (the spice route) that would drive maritime technology and shape geopolitical fortunes for thousands of years. Punt was a pivotal early node in the rise of this enterprise, serving as an important emporium for luxury goods, including sacred baboons (Papio hamadryas), but its location is disputed. Here, we use geospatial variation in the oxygen and strontium isotope ratios of 155 baboons from 77 locations to estimate the geoprovenance of mummified baboons recovered from ancient Egyptian temples and tombs. Five Ptolemaic specimens of P. anubis (404–40 BC) showed evidence of long-term residency in Egypt prior to mummification, consistent with a captive breeding program. Two New Kingdom specimens of P. hamadryas were sourced to a region that encompasses much of present-day Ethiopia, Eritrea, and Djibouti, and portions of Somalia and Yemen. This result is a testament to the tremendous reach of Egyptian seafaring during the 2nd millennium BC. It also corroborates the balance of scholarly conjecture on the location of Punt."
-Mummified baboons reveal the far reach of early Egyptian mariners
Punt has been confirmed to encompass Ethiopia and Eritrea aswell as Somalia
Lmao you truly think Somalis came anywhere near as close as the noble Axumites?
Axum at its height literally dominated Red Sea and Mediterranean trade, Greek/Byzantine merchants frequented in Eritrea/Adulis and many of the elites were said to be able to speak Greek and were even acquainted with Greek literature.
A Persian traveller literally ranked Aksum as a global superpower, up there with Rome, Somalis have never come close to something like this.
This might not even be true, its very possible Adulis was its OWN centre of power and Aksum was another, there are accounts based on foreign travellers that Adulis had its own King with his own throne in Adulis, which contained inscriptions detailing conquests within Ethiopia/Eritrea(literally mentions conquering the "Beja", the "Agazi", "Agame" etc...) aswell as Yemen and the Hejaz, this is a good paper which proposes the idea:
Also worth looking into the Monumentum Adulitanum
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How was I dodging? You literally asked for an example of maritime prowess from Eritrea/Ethiopia and that example was Axum! You are the one obfuscating hereLoollll That baboon Skelton thing has long been debunked by scholars in 2015
If you look at older posts on here you’ll see that reports from scholars are leaning towards Somalia dumbass. Habesha bootlicker much?
What’s this about “noble” axumites while putting down somali history as if they both can’t be regarded well? We were talking about Punt and I wanted to stay on topic not talking about Axum since Seldiboy kept on dodging my questions. As for Axum being regarded as equal to Rome I’ve heard about it and we will see if it comes true to its claims in future excavations.
It’s impressive, yes. However, Somali maritime trading goes back far further than that, if we’re just talking about the classical times, the Somalia was the extremely important Silk Road connecting us civilizations like Persia, Phoenicia, Egypt, Greece, Romans, Himyarite and Sabean Kingdoms, Nabateans, & India. Most scholars accurately believe it was in Somalia. @Ibn Amer. Brought up the Baboon monkey testing thing even though that was proven wrong by reports in 2015 and afterwards most scholars pointed to us. There is much more proof like Anceint Egypt & Greco-Rome for example were heavily in the Spice and Frankincense trade of which they got from Punt and Somalia to this day contributes the most frankincense output to this day thousands of years later, even the three wise men got there gifts to nabi isa, frankincense and myrrh from us. I got more proof than this as well too but just go to the history section and check instead. There are older posts you can check.
I just want to know who made up "4th holiest city in Islam"...
Lol. It’s simply a title. It still among one of the holiest cities in Islam. Probably in the top 10
Nope, theirs no statement or proof or anything that says harar is a "holy city" in Islam
Mengistu was southern ethiopian mixed with amhara, Meles Zenawai was Tigrayan and Abiy Ahmed is a Oromo man
