Lol when you uphold other people’s beauty standards. Ohh the cuckery.

@Schematics @Timo Madow and proud

I'm not going to confirm or deny anything and let your imagination go wild. Also, @Schematics if a person has any form of trauma you should recommend them to seek professional help first, the thing he needs to be is senselessly sleeping with randoms

Don't tell me you are female. That would be criminal.

Yes, you have good advice for TJ&P. I said the same thing if you read subsequent post I made.

I know londonites use prepaid internet card, so perhaps you are logging in and out to save access time, but scroll up there and verify I didn't tell him to embark on random sex.

:chrisfreshhah:
 

Timo Jareer and proud

2nd Emir of the Akh Right Movement
Don't tell me you are female. That would be criminal.

Yes, you have good advice for TJ&P. I said the same thing if you read subsequent post I made.

I know londonites use prepaid internet card, so perhaps you are logging in and out to save access time, but scroll up there and verify I didn't tell him to embark on random sex.

:chrisfreshhah:
It has already happened. About 15 min ago
 
I gave you a thumbs up to cancel out Knowles thumbs down. She didn't like the part where you stated your are happy to see a Somali man happy and improving.

She is nursing a broken heart and takes her anger out on all Somali males. Way foolxuntahay yaan u maleeyay qoftaan. Cuqdad ayay qabtaa.
Thanks. Aww that’s sad I wish her all the best.
 
I am an optimist to a fault and may be that is because I have female relatives who are dear to me. They are not perfect but they are doing what they can to navigate a difficult environment that demands sacrifices beyond their experience as young women in the west. They are good human beings who deserve good husbands to share life with, decent Somali men preferably. Giving up on our young women is pessimistic. Instead, we ought to pray for them and do what we can to help them succeed.

Our fathers sacrificed through marriage same way our mothers sacrificed through the marriage. Marriage is a compromise, a contract and a mission to ride out on the turbulent waves of our life experiences. No one is perfect and we should remind ourselves that Allah is there to guide us and help us succeed saxib.

The young Somali women in the west need our help.
How exactly do you propose to help? I am not disputing that there are no decent ones left here, of course there are, but they are a tiny minority..

It's like finding a needle in a haystack, it's a risky tumultuous business with very little reward, the best way to help these women in my eyes is to not marry them at all.

They don't even know how to be wife, they never received any rudimentary training at home nor do they care in this society.

It's also the best way to help your future offspring too, at least they will be saved from being raised fatherless in this decadent poisonous society that has rendered you toothless, debased and dejected.

The best way to help them is not add to this dysfunction, let them all die out and become token examples for the next generation.

I remember having this exact debate a decade ago with a couple of top notch quality males who all got married, they thought I was crazy, but today only two of them survived, the other 8 they took to the cleaners

But the amusing part is that all of them now agree with me once they have had a taste of reality of course, don't be that idiot that only learns when he makes these mistakes, but be the one that learns from the mistakes of others bro.
 
Men who like difficult women are submissive men, men with low self esteem. If that’s your thing cool. But a man that can’t be assertive is a turn off. You’re basically his mother eh.


You have grown the list of cute women on this site with your cute opinions today. We need more of you so it is not always Somali guys speaking on behalf of sexy, cute Somali females like you.

You are a breath of fresh air. 110 posts only and I know you are a good prospect. Alas, I have taken Basra from the kids here, so it is not fair I take the new queen also from them. I tag you with the "Hot" stamp.

:lolbron:
 
How exactly do you propose to help? I am not disputing that there are no decent ones left here, of course there are, but they are a tiny minority..

It's like finding a needle in a haystack, it's a risky tumultuous business with very little reward, the best way to help these women in my eyes is to not marry them at all.

They don't even know how to be wife, they never received any rudimentary training at home nor do they care in this society.

It's also the best way to help your future offspring too, at least they will be saved from being raised fatherless in this decadent poisonous society that has rendered you toothless, debased and dejected.

The best way to help them is not add to this dysfunction, let them all die out and become token examples for the next generation.

I remember having this exact debate a decade ago with a couple of top notch quality males who all got married, they thought I was crazy, but today only two of them survived, the other 8 they took to the cleaners

But the amusing part is that all of them now agree with me once they have had a taste of reality of course, don't be that idiot that only learns when he makes these mistakes, but be the one that learns from the mistakes of others bro.


The young males are not better themselves and need rudimentary lessons of how to be a husband. It is the environment in which these young Somalis grow up that make them less of an accomplished cultural Somalis in your eyes. But the truth is, measuring them with the same stick you were measured with back home misses the point. Also, these young Somalis will marry each other, so they have a better chance of coming out successful with like-minded partners from the community.


As long as the woman is not sleeping around and rebelling against her own family, they are fine. They can't be bad in a high percentage as you imply.
 
You have grown the list of cute women on this site with your cute opinions today. We need more of you so it is not always Somali guys speaking on behalf of sexy, cute Somali females like you.

You are a breath of fresh air. 110 posts only and I know you are a good prospect. Alas, I have taken Basra from the kids here, so it is not fair I take the new queen also from them. I tag you with the "Hot" stamp.

:lolbron:
Lol thanks. “...sexy, cute” I’m ok Sir :ftw9nwa:. It’s always nice to hear different perspectives or similar one’s.
 

NAAFO

VALOR MORGHULIS
To do this not only will you need a strong like-minded forward thinking partner that will aid you but also an adequate supporting cast (your wider community)

You need both ingredients to have any chance at success because all around you is filth, dysfunction and destruction.

As Somali's we never had a community in the diaspora to begin with, we hold the record for the number of broken homes produced, our women and our children are out of control.

This is the first time that I have seen a Xaalimo talk about this topic both online and in real life, 99.9% of the times the concern is shown by the male's.

Our Xaalimo's have no interest in these topics which is no surprise to me because they have developed a robust reputation in the diaspora for being notorious home wreckers.
CAN I ASK WHAT GENDER YOU ARE BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOUR POINT WALLAHI I DO I JUST WANNA KNOW?
 

NAAFO

VALOR MORGHULIS
I don't know how that will be possible. Look at the rate social media is controlling our lives, controlling trends, and social behavior.

I can assuredly say to you that when your children are at your age, they will be even more fucked up, superficial and less in control of their behavior because technology will have an even greater role in shaping their lives in every way shape or form.
@The alchemist it is possible to protect young people/children from western social conditioning especially liberal ideologies that are inherently detrimental to our identity as well. as our way of life but I understand your point it seems a difficult task but it is definitely achievable with good parenting and upbringing parents/family that instill values and principles into their young people
 

NAAFO

VALOR MORGHULIS
Do yourself a favour and do not have nuanced conversations with this guy. He is a rabid women hating misogynist who probability physically attacks his sisters in to submission.

There are a few good Somali men out there. I only know 4 successful Somali men with university degrees. However, I can name you many who are selling drugs or working in retail going on thirty. A substantial amount of Somali men are being stabbed to death or are in jail. Which leaves Somali women in a very desperate situation. I say marry out at this point but due to peer pressure from family- Somali women are forced to settle for pond life like @Inquisitive_

When there is not much to choose from you end up with something that will do for now. After a period of the farax bumming it up in the living room refusing to clean up after himself or giving attention to any of his kids, divorce is inevitable.
@Knowles your saying that he is being unfiar but what if I was to say that your both being unfair & ultimately biased both yourself & @Inquisitive_ are suffering from abad case of the "confirmation bias* you must remove your sociopolitical views and put them aside remember liberalism isn't your fight as a EA/somali especially as a somali woman your much yearned for and appreciated place & overall needed place is among your people not the privileged white woman or otherwise as well as others who may not have a community to call upon in dire times wallahi we should all say alhamdulillah that we're somali but my points is that if we want to and are sincerely serious about solving the issues within our community then we need to stop with this quarrelsome blame game,gender wars etc which by the way our many non somali detractors are reveling in we must put aside ideologies/thinking in other words external influences & that also includes other cultures neighbouring us either within the continent or middle east we basically shouldn't take from africans or arabs with some minor exceptions... and once this is done by utilising our objective and critical thinking Insh'allah however this continous vilification of our sisters and brothers has to stop wallahi we need to as a community start holding to account brothers and sisters who do wrong or support ideals that are inherently detrimental as a community as they're not compatible with our identity and values why do you think they disproportianately push these toxic agendas on people of color basically all non white people I am of the opinion that its terrible to be a white or asian person whether man or woman basically because white men no choice they either have to be always the nice guy and thats just to be pleasant & socially acceptable (passable) or something else just to be individualistic but is still not considered the norm and as for white women they're always being pushed to accept western social norms even if it goes against what they really want and makes them ultimately unhappy and with asians there existence must only leave you in despair if anybody is one the point I'm trying to make is that if only we remove our rose tinted spectacles and come together then we can overcome Insh'Allah the solution is found within our own culture @Kurolady08 I'm sure will agree as it has done so for tens of thousands of years if not thousands of years and will do so for another tens of thousands of years Insh'Allah To my somali brothers keep doing what you have always done & will continue to always do which is be the valiant,courageous,loyal,dedicated etc geeljire's you have always been but with a vital exception please brothers don't demean and bring down your beautiful sisters that are like hooral ayn in their beauty rather uplift & honour them whatever they do don't bicker or argue with them just ignore them you are somali men not the effeminate men of other races who constantly oppress or objectify their women by constantly either sexualising and degrading their women or others who oppress their women by having their entire lives spent around cooking,cleaning, or even having other disgusting abusive practices perpetrated on them like marrital rape wallahi things like these have happened in other communities my next point To my somali sisters i Know our brothers are not the easiest at times to deal with however if you want to understand someone in this case for example you must see things from their disposition meaning if you want to really understand somali men then you must think like a somali man understand their needs wants desires or things that make them angry basically because somali men are so prideful they'll never admit their mistakes by being slighted or disrespected in other words if you want to get a somali man to admit his faults then he shouldn't be insulted but rather be spoken to in a normal room voice make him understand or remind of what lifes really worth by reaffirming within him that he has the blood of the Pharoah within him and that a Pharoah needs his queen we love our beautiful,loyal,brave, sisters wallahi we do but we shouldn't give up on each other Insh'Allah we'll never give up on each other given what happened recently to our brave and noble sister Hodan Nalayeh who in my opinion is definitely the greatest if not one of the greatest somali sisters that is a public figure along with Ilhan Omar although I prefer Hodan and what she was doing for us as a people is something wallahi we should be proud may Allah grant her and her husband paradise Insh'Allah. This is the time we should really be reflecting on what it really means to be somali
 

Muji

VIP
Men who like difficult women are submissive men, men with low self esteem. If that’s your thing cool. But a man that can’t be assertive is a turn off. You’re basically his mother eh.

@Emily have a look at this one.

Please tell her how many times I’ve turned a Abdi pleaser into an abdi abuser. The ones like her end up hating Somali men the most and start threatening them because they had high expectations of them only to crash down into reality.
 

Muji

VIP
@Knowles your saying that he is being unfiar but what if I was to say that your both being unfair & ultimately biased both yourself & @Inquisitive_ are suffering from abad case of the "confirmation bias* you must remove your sociopolitical views and put them aside remember liberalism isn't your fight as a EA/somali especially as a somali woman your much yearned for and appreciated place & overall needed place is among your people not the privileged white woman or otherwise as well as others who may not have a community to call upon in dire times wallahi we should all say alhamdulillah that we're somali but my points is that if we want to and are sincerely serious about solving the issues within our community then we need to stop with this quarrelsome blame game,gender wars etc which by the way our many non somali detractors are reveling in we must put aside ideologies/thinking in other words external influences & that also includes other cultures neighbouring us either within the continent or middle east we basically shouldn't take from africans or arabs with some minor exceptions... and once this is done by utilising our objective and critical thinking Insh'allah however this continous vilification of our sisters and brothers has to stop wallahi we need to as a community start holding to account brothers and sisters who do wrong or support ideals that are inherently detrimental as a community as they're not compatible with our identity and values why do you think they disproportianately push these toxic agendas on people of color basically all non white people I am of the opinion that its terrible to be a white or asian person whether man or woman basically because white men no choice they either have to be always the nice guy and thats just to be pleasant & socially acceptable (passable) or something else just to be individualistic but is still not considered the norm and as for white women they're always being pushed to accept western social norms even if it goes against what they really want and makes them ultimately unhappy and with asians there existence must only leave you in despair if anybody is one the point I'm trying to make is that if only we remove our rose tinted spectacles and come together then we can overcome Insh'Allah the solution is found within our own culture @Kurolady08 I'm sure will agree as it has done so for tens of thousands of years if not thousands of years and will do so for another tens of thousands of years Insh'Allah To my somali brothers keep doing what you have always done & will continue to always do which is be the valiant,courageous,loyal,dedicated etc geeljire's you have always been but with a vital exception please brothers don't demean and bring down your beautiful sisters that are like hooral ayn in their beauty rather uplift & honour them whatever they do don't bicker or argue with them just ignore them you are somali men not the effeminate men of other races who constantly oppress or objectify their women by constantly either sexualising and degrading their women or others who oppress their women by having their entire lives spent around cooking,cleaning, or even having other disgusting abusive practices perpetrated on them like marrital rape wallahi things like these have happened in other communities my next point To my somali sisters i Know our brothers are not the easiest at times to deal with however if you want to understand someone in this case for example you must see things from their disposition meaning if you want to really understand somali men then you must think like a somali man understand their needs wants desires or things that make them angry basically because somali men are so prideful they'll never admit their mistakes by being slighted or disrespected in other words if you want to get a somali man to admit his faults then he shouldn't be insulted but rather be spoken to in a normal room voice make him understand or remind of what lifes really worth by reaffirming within him that he has the blood of the Pharoah within him and that a Pharoah needs his queen we love our beautiful,loyal,brave, sisters wallahi we do but we shouldn't give up on each other Insh'Allah we'll never give up on each other given what happened recently to our brave and noble sister Hodan Nalayeh who in my opinion is definitely the greatest if not one of the greatest somali sisters that is a public figure along with Ilhan Omar although I prefer Hodan and what she was doing for us as a people is something wallahi we should be proud may Allah grant her and her husband paradise Insh'Allah. This is the time we should really be reflecting on what it really means to be somali


Sis I appreciate your deep and insightful post but we cannot fox anything unless we identify the problem. You mentioned Hodan but who was it that killed her? Ofcourse it was a Somali man.

Somalia and Afghanistan have a deep rooted patriarchal society and these two places are listed as the worst places to live for everyone.

In order to rebuild our country we need to break down the system that led us to this. Would you disagree with anything I’ve said?
 
The young males are not better themselves and need rudimentary lessons of how to be a husband. It is the environment in which these young Somalis grow up that make them less of an accomplished cultural Somalis in your eyes. But the truth is, measuring them with the same stick you were measured with back home misses the point. Also, these young Somalis will marry each other, so they have a better chance of coming out successful with like-minded partners from the community.


As long as the woman is not sleeping around and rebelling against her own family, they are fine. They can't be bad in a high percentage as you imply.
If we don't call a spade a spade there is absolutely no hope in solving this issue, all this tip toeing around the problem and trying to assign 'equal' blame as @NAAFO suggests wont get us anywhere, because blame is never equal.

This problem doesn't just affect this generation but also the previous ones that got here, a problem doesn't exist in Somalia at all to begin with!

You have to at one point ask yourself why it doesn't? why did these marriages work prior to the civil war and collapsed after the couples fled to the west??? what has changed??

Walahi I kid you not even Ajanabi at work of European descent who is still married to one was telling me our women are home wreckers and how he tells his son to never even think about marrying one.

Even Algerian's and Yemeni's in the mosque I pray share events they have witnessed in public that are too embarrassing to even type out.

Of course it's not 100% there fault, but 80% of the problems in our communities they are the main culprits and engineers and if we remain silent about it, there is absolutely zero hope for it ever changing.
 

Emily

🥰🥰🥰
VIP
@Emily have a look at this one.

Please tell her how many times I’ve turned a Abdi pleaser into an abdi abuser. The ones like her end up hating Somali men the most and start threatening them because they had high expectations of them only to crash down into reality.
It’s anonymous134, remember that pick me girl.. the girl thinks she will find her true love on Somalispot.
 
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