Ladies, you do not think us blokes should react?

somali older men :friendhug:they are wiling to pay (despite sometimes being haram) cuz you're somali :fittytousand:
And that is wrong is my only point. Nothing heart touching about willingly and knowingly paying for something haram just cause there somali :kodaksmiley:

We love to call out all the cultural stuff that's goes against the religion when it mainly effects the women. You should keep the same energy here. there is nothing good about supporting haram knowingly just because they are somali. (I know you don't endorse it)

Sadly tho that mentality of helping just because there somali is probably going to die in the west with our generation. The somali community here is slowly drifting apart and adopting individualism. They don't want to be involved with one another and don't want other somalis in there affairs. Our over familiarity with each other with its pros and cons is going to disappear with in the next couple of generations and this generosity between somalis for just being somalis is one of the things that will disappear.

And once again supporting somalis in haram ain't a part of our culture. If you did that in somalia or in general you would get beat by somalis. Just like @π’‹π’–π’†π’”π’–π’•π’ˆ stated he used to do. That's what the older gen would do if they saw a somali trying to engage in haram openly.
 
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And that is wrong is my only point. Nothing heart touching about willingly and knowingly paying for something haram just cause there somali :kodaksmiley:

We love to call out all the cultural stuff that's goes against the religion. You should keep the same energy there is nothing good about supporting haram knowingly just because they are somali. (I know you don't endorse it)

Sadly tho that mentality of helping just because there somali is probably going to die in the west with our generation. The somali community here is slowly drifting apart and adopting individualism. They don't want to be involved with one another and don't want other somalis in there affairs. Our over familiarity with each other with its pros and cons is going to disappear with in the next couple of generations and this generosity between somalis for just being somalis is one of the things that will disappear.

And once again supporting somalis in haram ain't a part of our culture. If you did that in somalia or in general you would get beat by somalis. Just like @π’‹π’–π’†π’”π’–π’•π’ˆ stated he used to do. That's what the older gen would do if they saw a somali trying to engage in haram openly.
All valid points!

Question for you: say, you were in Battersea, and saw a young Somali lass messing about with a madow, or caddaan, the size of a monkey, what would you do?
 
All valid points!

Question for you: say, you were in Battersea, and saw a young Somali lass messing about with a madow, or caddaan, the size of a monkey, what would you do?
Honestly I don't know. I try to assume the best for the most part that could be her husband. When I don't have any context and it's clear shes not in distress/being taken advantage or apparently being harassed then I don't involve myself because I don't know the individual or anyone in the area.

Now if this was someone I know of who is up to no good and I know there up to no good with 100% certainty.
then I would intervene and tell her to do better because she's definitely going to regret it later on for engaging with haram openly. Generally the people I do know I know really well so that would be why I would intervene but I wouldn't rat them out but if its happens more then once then I would definitely get her male relatives involved like a brother to set her straight.

but i have never been in such a situation so it's all hypothetical. Most somalis aint out here openly engaging in haram publicly with ajnabis that I know of anyways. But if I see a somali in general engaged in haram I would advice them but not reprimand them or beat them up I'm not there parents.
 
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Honestly I don't know. I try to assume the best for the most part that could be her husband. When I don't have any context and it's clear shes not in distress/being taken advantage or apparently being harassed then I don't involve myself because I don't know the individual or anyone in the area.

Now if this was someone I know of who is up to no good and I know there up to no good with 100% certainty.
then I would intervene and tell her to do better because she's definitely going to regret it later on for engaging with haram openly. Generally the people I do know I know really well so that would be why I would intervene but I wouldn't rat them out but if its happens more then once then I would definitely get her male relatives involved like a brother to set her straight.

but i have never been in such a situation so it's all hypothetical. Most somalis aint out here openly engaging in haram publicly with ajnabis that I know of anyways. But if I see a somali in general engaged in haram I would advice them but not reprimand them or beat them up I'm not there parents.
See, therein lies the difference in thinking. Here is another scenario: you are on the tube en route your humble abode, and see a young lady being harassed; would you step in?
 
See, therein lies the difference in thinking. Here is another scenario: you are on the tube en route your humble abode, and see a young lady being harassed; would you step in?
yeah I would it depends on my proximity aswell tho but i would still make my way if i can. For the most part if there is some distance between us someone would have already intervened by the time I get there but I would still do what I can to help her out.
 
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Yes. Sadly its dying. Even with the somali men that come from somalia/africa now don't really have it as much as they used to. I have a somali male coworker (a few year older than me) that pays for my food sometimes whenever we have to go outside for a job. The thing is he's not born in the west. So he has that "hooyo-koris" that I've seen with only a few somali men now :francis:
I thought you couldn't look men in the eye? What happened :mjlaugh:
 
yeah I would it depends on my proximity aswell tho but i would still make my way if i can. For the most part if there is some distance between us someone would have already intervened by the time I get there but I would still do what I can to help her out.
In other words, someone else would do it, even if that someone else would expect another to step in, and no one steps in, and and the young lady is left at the alter. See the problem.

You would just jump in based off assumptions? What if its her husband?
A couple of summers ago, whilst on a train out of Chicago, after work, a middle aged drunkard chancer cornered a young career lady in a three-piece suit from the suburbs. I am seated a couple of seats away, listening to Bloomberg, and reading the local newspaper, in observation, from afar, of all these men and women round her all cowering under their breath, and not even one saying a thing. Now, I could see she was stressed, and wanted to get out, but he was blocking her way.

I got up, greeted here, as if I have known her, asking about her work etc. Offered her to swap seats with me, motioning the drunken pillock to move, which he did, as predators always do, and there I sat next to him engaging him in his drunken state. Next stop, I motioned him 'oi, this is your stop, mate', he started murmuring, 'he does not like effing English people, thinking they are better, we kicked you out, you know etc', after a couple of stops, off he went. The lady started sobbing under her breath, and now everyone started consoling her. I looked at them, did not say a single word, and got off the train at the next stop, of course after I made sure she was all right.

Now, forget not, I am at home in these situations, with enough wit, and skill to handle my contemporaries, even if the odds are stacked against me, which is all right, for one is not going to win all bouts. Agreed, it is not for the metro crowd, but it is a man thing.

An observation: Any man, who could, or would not be arsed to help a lady in distress, would not come to the rescue of his own mother, sister, wife, or daughter.

Postscript:
Effected the relevant amendment!
 
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In other words, someone else would do it, even if that someone else would expect another to step in, and no one steps in, and and the young lady is left at the alter. See the problem.
You miss understandstood me that message you replied to was referring back to the previous scenario not the second one about harassment.

I did state if there being harassed I will jump in but if there is some distance for the most part by the time I get there someone would have jumped in before me but even then I would make my way to help I already stated all this yet you choose to read past it :childplease:
 
You miss understandstood me that message you replied to was referring back to the previous scenario not the second one about harassment.

I did state if there being harassed I will jump in but if there is some distance for the most part by the time I get there someone would have jumped in before me but even then I would make my way to help I already stated all this yet you choose to read past it :childplease:
Sorted it now. But you would still expect someone else to step in, no? In other words, it is someone else's responsibility, not yours.
 
I would help a man aswell in general anyone being harassed unfairly for no valid reason
Well, with men, I go by a different set of rules, and I am not as kind to them, unless of course they are in the twilight years.

I see many effeminate young men, lacking true grit, who avoid, at any cost, what is deemed a man's work (masonry, carpentry, welding, mechanics etc), with penchant for polished paws, frequenting pedicure and manicure parlours on the High street, no different from a femme fatale in stilettos about to honour the red district, which gets my barnet ablaze.
 

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