Ladies and Gents, it is official, Many Somali neighbourhoods (Toronto) are some of city's poorest

Most Somali-speaking Torontonians live in Etobicoke, census shows

Many Somali neighbourhoods are some of city's poorest
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Somali community activist Sarah Ali works out of an office at Kingsview Village Junior School

The overwhelming majority of 2016 Census respondents in Toronto who said they speak Somali live in central Etobicoke in the Kingsview-Village-The Westway neighbourhood south of Highway 401 and north of The Westway and St. Phillips Road.

In fact, Census respondents who live in Toronto who identified as Somali-speaking are the highest in number in five Etobicoke neighbourhoods, including Mount Olive-Silverstone-Jamestown, Islington-City Centre West, Elms-Old Rexdale, and Willowridge-Martingrove-Richview.

Canadians of Somali descent, mostly of second and now third generations, who live in the Kingsview Village-The Westway neighbourhood face challenges: insufficient youth programs, no community centre, with many college and university graduates unable to find secure, full-time jobs in their field.


Without sufficient youth support and activities, and full-time, career-related employment for newly graduated twentysomethings, some turn to the streets and violence, while others experience depression, even suicide, said

Sarah Ali, a mid-thirties, third-generation Canadian of Somali descent and area resident, who works with the Somali Workers Network.

“Everything is the need,” the mother of three said recently at Kingsview Village Junior School, a community and model school she called an exception for its strong after-school math and basketball programs for its students, largely of Somali descent.

“Agencies need more funding and support to sustain their programs. There are no locations for new programs. It causes many children and youth to roam around because they have no place to go. We’re an educated, entrepreneurial community with nowhere to go.”

The Somali Workers Network is one of several diversity networks of the Toronto and Region Labour Council, Canada’s oldest and largest labour union with 205,000 members.

In 2014, unionized workers concerned with social justice issues formed the network to build bridges between the labour movement and Canadians of Somali descent, and to advocate and address social issues, including mental illness and violence.

Also that year, the City of Toronto identified Kingsview Village-The Westway as one of 31 neighbourhoods known as Neighbourhood Improvement Areas because they fall behind the Neighbourhood Equity Score.

Low income is a reality for 25 per cent of the area’s population of 22,000 residents, higher than the 20 per cent rate of low income across all of Toronto, 2016 Census data shows.

Data indicates 42.5 per cent of children younger than six and 39.6 per cent of children and youth younger than 18 are considered low income. Among adults, 22.9 per cent of those aged 18 to 64 and 11 per cent of seniors 65 and older are low income, the data indicates.

The low-income measure after tax is $22,133 for singles and $44,266 for four-person families.

Ali makes the point that Somalis who fled the country’s civil war in the 1990s to immigrate to Canada were largely well-educated, but weren’t successful in having their foreign qualifications and credentials recognized in their new home.

“You had highly-educated people – engineers, mathematicians, doctors, teachers – fleeing the war without their papers, which led them to minimum-wage jobs in Canada, which led to depression and being unable to support their families,” Ali said.

That phenomenon of well-educated people unable to find work in their chosen country is now also a reality for second- and third-generation Canadians of Somali descent, whom Ali calls “the lost generations.”

“The media portrays us as violent,” Ali said. “But people who live in other areas of the city and outside Toronto,
hy are they successful; because we had the resources like everyone else.

“Our Somali brothers and sisters do not have the resources and have fallen through the cracks.”

Those seeking jobs or even enrolment in programs face discrimination, Ali said.

“(Discrimination because of) postal code is a fact; it’s not a joke or a myth,” she said.

Mental illness among young Canadians of Somali descent is an “epidemic,” said Abdi Hagi Yusuf, Somali Workers Network co-chair.

“Stress and mental illness is high among our children when they can’t get jobs,” he said. “We choose to be Canadian. Our children are Canadian. It’s a Canadian problem.”

Ali agreed.

What is the answer?

“Youth need to see there is possibility, there is hope,” she said. “They need to see even one or two children hired by city parks and recreation, one police officer, one teacher,” of Canadian Somali descent.

“When they see not even one person, there is a belief this is pure targeting (against the community).”

The Canadian and Ontario governments’ support of Syrian refugees is worlds apart from the experience of Somali refugees when they fled civil war in the 1990s for a new life in Canada, Ali said.

“With the new Syrian refugees, the government is supporting the whole family, and the men are upgrading their skills,” she said. “If Somali refugees had had the same opportunities, resources and funding the government is giving Syrian refugees, we wouldn’t be in this situation.”

https://www.toronto.com/community-s...-torontonians-live-in-etobicoke-census-shows/

2nd or third generation Canadians Somalis and still living in the gutter and begging for more welfare. Mental illness is rampant among the youth and no wonder then, they mostly congregate the FKD sessions in the political room.:francis:
 

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Most Somali-speaking Torontonians live in Etobicoke, census shows

Many Somali neighbourhoods are some of city's poorest
.

3hET_SarahAliTalk0108_Super_Portrait.jpg

Somali community activist Sarah Ali works out of an office at Kingsview Village Junior School

The overwhelming majority of 2016 Census respondents in Toronto who said they speak Somali live in central Etobicoke in the Kingsview-Village-The Westway neighbourhood south of Highway 401 and north of The Westway and St. Phillips Road.

In fact, Census respondents who live in Toronto who identified as Somali-speaking are the highest in number in five Etobicoke neighbourhoods, including Mount Olive-Silverstone-Jamestown, Islington-City Centre West, Elms-Old Rexdale, and Willowridge-Martingrove-Richview.

Canadians of Somali descent, mostly of second and now third generations, who live in the Kingsview Village-The Westway neighbourhood face challenges: insufficient youth programs, no community centre, with many college and university graduates unable to find secure, full-time jobs in their field.


Without sufficient youth support and activities, and full-time, career-related employment for newly graduated twentysomethings, some turn to the streets and violence, while others experience depression, even suicide, said

Sarah Ali, a mid-thirties, third-generation Canadian of Somali descent and area resident, who works with the Somali Workers Network.

“Everything is the need,” the mother of three said recently at Kingsview Village Junior School, a community and model school she called an exception for its strong after-school math and basketball programs for its students, largely of Somali descent.

“Agencies need more funding and support to sustain their programs. There are no locations for new programs. It causes many children and youth to roam around because they have no place to go. We’re an educated, entrepreneurial community with nowhere to go.”

The Somali Workers Network is one of several diversity networks of the Toronto and Region Labour Council, Canada’s oldest and largest labour union with 205,000 members.

In 2014, unionized workers concerned with social justice issues formed the network to build bridges between the labour movement and Canadians of Somali descent, and to advocate and address social issues, including mental illness and violence.

Also that year, the City of Toronto identified Kingsview Village-The Westway as one of 31 neighbourhoods known as Neighbourhood Improvement Areas because they fall behind the Neighbourhood Equity Score.

Low income is a reality for 25 per cent of the area’s population of 22,000 residents, higher than the 20 per cent rate of low income across all of Toronto, 2016 Census data shows.

Data indicates 42.5 per cent of children younger than six and 39.6 per cent of children and youth younger than 18 are considered low income. Among adults, 22.9 per cent of those aged 18 to 64 and 11 per cent of seniors 65 and older are low income, the data indicates.

The low-income measure after tax is $22,133 for singles and $44,266 for four-person families.

Ali makes the point that Somalis who fled the country’s civil war in the 1990s to immigrate to Canada were largely well-educated, but weren’t successful in having their foreign qualifications and credentials recognized in their new home.

“You had highly-educated people – engineers, mathematicians, doctors, teachers – fleeing the war without their papers, which led them to minimum-wage jobs in Canada, which led to depression and being unable to support their families,” Ali said.

That phenomenon of well-educated people unable to find work in their chosen country is now also a reality for second- and third-generation Canadians of Somali descent, whom Ali calls “the lost generations.”

“The media portrays us as violent,” Ali said. “But people who live in other areas of the city and outside Toronto,
hy are they successful; because we had the resources like everyone else.

“Our Somali brothers and sisters do not have the resources and have fallen through the cracks.”

Those seeking jobs or even enrolment in programs face discrimination, Ali said.

“(Discrimination because of) postal code is a fact; it’s not a joke or a myth,” she said.

Mental illness among young Canadians of Somali descent is an “epidemic,” said Abdi Hagi Yusuf, Somali Workers Network co-chair.

“Stress and mental illness is high among our children when they can’t get jobs,” he said. “We choose to be Canadian. Our children are Canadian. It’s a Canadian problem.”

Ali agreed.

What is the answer?

“Youth need to see there is possibility, there is hope,” she said. “They need to see even one or two children hired by city parks and recreation, one police officer, one teacher,” of Canadian Somali descent.

“When they see not even one person, there is a belief this is pure targeting (against the community).”

The Canadian and Ontario governments’ support of Syrian refugees is worlds apart from the experience of Somali refugees when they fled civil war in the 1990s for a new life in Canada, Ali said.

“With the new Syrian refugees, the government is supporting the whole family, and the men are upgrading their skills,” she said. “If Somali refugees had had the same opportunities, resources and funding the government is giving Syrian refugees, we wouldn’t be in this situation.”

https://www.toronto.com/community-s...-torontonians-live-in-etobicoke-census-shows/

2nd or third generation Canadians Somalis and still living in the gutter and begging for more welfare. Mental illness is rampant among the youth and no wonder then, they mostly congregate the FKD sessions in the political room.:francis:



"with many college and university graduates unable to find secure, full-time jobs in their field."


Well whose fault is that? Canada is a socialist country, Not capitalist prosperous like USA~
 

pablo

Make Dhulos Great Again
Lol older Somalis or fobs understandable, but if u were born there and instead of making use of the opportunities ur begging for welfare u get no sympathy from me. Also hard to get a job with a weak degree:manny:
 
"with many college and university graduates unable to find secure, full-time jobs in their field."


Well whose fault is that? Canada is a socialist country, Not capitalist prosperous like USA~

@Basra

The degrees was a throwaway line from the community activist who wanted to paint the Somalis as geniuses who were discriminated and denied employment by the system, what degrees? Hennessey degrees? selling crack to the late mayor of Toronto degrees? What about technical jobs like becoming a plumber, a mechanic or an electrician? It is worse than Cedar-Riverside because of the generous welfare program in Canada that makes Somalis lazy. Look at the Somalis in Africa, their success rates are far better than those in Canada. Why? Somalis become lazy and useless in countries that has generous welfare systems.
 

Basra

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@Basra

The degrees was a throwaway line from the community activist who wanted to paint the Somalis as geniuses who were discriminated and denied employment by the system, what degrees? Hennessey degrees? selling crack to the late mayor of Toronto degrees? What about technical jobs like becoming a plumber, a mechanic or an electrician? It is worse than Cedar-Riverside because of the generous welfare program in Canada that makes Somalis lazy. Look at the Somalis in Africa, their success rates are far better than those in Canada. Why? Somalis become lazy and useless in countries that has generous welfare systems.


@AussieHustler

Do u get orgasm for putting down Muslims & Somali Muslims?

It seems you are a devil incarnate
 

NotMyL

"You are your best thing"
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That’s really sad if you can’t make it in Canada, I don’t think there’s anywhere in the world you can make it :bell:
 

IftiinOfLife

Raw Hard Truth
@AussieHustler i dont know if her kids are in gangs but I do know if you want to make a real change, you can help the youth in your local area.

I think the reason why these kids are failing is because the educated second generation Somalis ran up and moved to the suburbs.
 
@AussieHustler i dont know if her kids are in gangs but I do know if you want to make a real change, you can help the youth in your local area.

I think the reason why these kids are failing is because the educated second generation Somalis ran up and moved to the suburbs.

@IftiinOfLife

I've mentored several kids during my Uni days as a helper to their soccer coach and also helped them with home work in a community hall and now, I occasionally talk to some of them and encourage them to learn a trade. The community is still misguided and thinks that technical jobs is beneath them, but not driving cabs and Uber. They are well paying jobs that could get them out of the ghetto, but to no avail. You see so many of these Somali youths unemployed while the economy of Australia is booming and we are importing workers to do these jobs. You will see recent new comers like Iraqis, Syrians, Burmese, Afghanis and even Ethiopians working as technicians, but the young Somali guy, if he has a job, he is either a security guard or driving a delivery van. These are low paying jobs and they don't have a chance to escape the ghetto. We either become doctors or engineers or sink. Nothing in between. The only difference to the Canadians is that we don't kill one another.
 
@IftiinOfLife

I've mentored several kids during my Uni days as a helper to their soccer coach and also helped them with home work in a community hall and now, I occasionally talk to some of them and encourage them to learn a trade. The community is still misguided and thinks that technical jobs is beneath them, but not driving cabs and Uber. They are well paying jobs that could get them out of the ghetto, but to no avail. You see so many of these Somali youths unemployed while the economy of Australia is booming and we are importing workers to do these jobs. You will see recent new comers like Iraqis, Syrians, Burmese, Afghanis and even Ethiopians working as technicians, but the young Somali guy, if he has a job, he is either a security guard or driving a delivery van. These are low paying jobs and they don't have a chance to escape the ghetto. We either become doctors or engineers or sink. Nothing in between. The only difference to the Canadians is that we don't kill one another.


That's cause you are puss is lol. Seriously though I'm gonna give you benefit of doubt and say you care for your people as you have put work in.
 
That's cause you are puss is lol. Seriously though I'm gonna give you benefit of doubt and say you care for your people as you have put work in.

@Jaydaan

"puss"!!! What is wrong with "puss"? You already reverted back to your demeaning ways of women.

I made a comment a decade ago that still stands, the majority of Somalis will be residents in government housing the year 2060 when the Welfare State collapses and an extreme form of laissez faire emerges and adopted by Western governments. Then, the sixth generation of Somalis will be complaining about racism and Islamophobia because of poverty. There is nothing one can do for them. But when you see a kid who has potential, it is always good to part with them a good advice not to fall into the cracks and guide them to the best of your ability. I've seen non-Somalis who want these Somalis to succeed, but the welfare system has made us lazy and slowly changing the mindset of the children. I see young Somalis getting married and spending big on weddings for only them to live in public housing few years later. Divorces skyrocketing and single mothers raising children in the ghettoes. Not a bright future.
 
I have no sympathy for the Somali community in Toronto. Plenty of ethnicities fled here due to civil war and they made something of themselves. Instead of going to college (which is very affordable) & get a decent job they contented themselves to welfare & subsidized housing allowing their children to be exposed to ghetto culture & learning how to "kawaal" the system just like their bakhti parents.

My advice to the Toronto Somalis who are trying to make something of themselves is move out of the ghetto as soon as you can even if your parents make a fuss about it. There are better neighbourhoods where you can stay in or even better get a job in a different city. There's no hope for these people, they'll be stuck in the ghetto for generations to come.
 
I have no sympathy for the Somali community in Toronto. Plenty of ethnicities fled here due to civil war and they made something of themselves. Instead of going to college (which is very affordable) & get a decent job they contented themselves to welfare & subsidized housing allowing their children to be exposed to ghetto culture & learning how to "kawaal" the system just like their bakhti parents.

My advice to the Toronto Somalis who are trying to make something of themselves is move out of the ghetto as soon as you can even if your parents make a fuss about it. There are better neighbourhoods where you can stay in or even better get a job in a different city. There's no hope for these people, they'll be stuck in the ghetto for generations to come.
Great advise fam, I heard there are good subburbs to live in like Vaughan, Missisauga or Brampton, maybe that Area would be perfect for Somalis who want to live in good housing conditions. Also Somalis are succesful in Areas where there spread out, not concentrated in one area! This is from what I observed.

The reason Toronto Malis are such failures is because they grew up in ghettos where there exposed to ghetto culture but that isn't an excuse since I know a lot of Vietnamese kids who grew up in the Ghettos and there doing great.
 
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IftiinOfLife

Raw Hard Truth
@IftiinOfLife

I've mentored several kids during my Uni days as a helper to their soccer coach

No Offense, but somali soccer is worthless:drakelaugh:I hate when somalis say " I did somali soccer/sports for da youf"


and also helped them with home work in a community hall and now, I occasionally talk to some of them and encourage them to learn a trade. The community is still misguided and thinks that technical jobs is beneath them, but not driving cabs and Uber. They are well paying jobs that could get them out of the ghetto, but to no avail. You see so many of these Somali youths unemployed while the economy of Australia is booming and we are importing workers to do these jobs. You will see recent new comers like Iraqis, Syrians, Burmese, Afghanis and even Ethiopians working as technicians, but the young Somali guy, if he has a job, he is either a security guard or driving a delivery van. These are low paying jobs and they don't have a chance to escape the ghetto. We either become doctors or engineers or sink. Nothing in between. The only difference to the Canadians is that we don't kill one another.


Did you help these kids with their university applications? Give them references if they needed a job? Help them find internships? Or did you simply help them "solve for x" kulaha. :pachah1: I'm not trying to be mean, but I never seen a somali homework club that got a Somali kid an academic scholarship is all lol.

I'm only asking cause the other ethnic communities (Indian,Asian,White immigrant, Jewish, Whites) all do this ( Internship,references,scholarships, college application) but Somalis don't lol. They just do "sports" and "RANDOM HOMEWORK CLUB" which clearly isn't working.

I remember going to a retarded somali homework club in 2004 and I can honestly say it didn't do shit except line certain people's pockets. I did my homework in half and hour, no Somali helped me in that 'program' then I went outside and played 'soccer', I wonder how much money they got from the government to do that stupid shit :lolbron:
 

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