Jubbaland Issue is due to insubordination

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

History:

Remember when Puntland was first created in 1998 and every subclan was given districts and representation/mps?
These MPs then went on to select every single President Puntland has ever ruled.

These leaders just so happened to be MJ, time and time again.

Now, an ignorant person would be inclined to say, " this is Majeerteenia, NOT Puntland"! But a smart person would follow the votes and notice that Mps select who they wish.

Ilkajiir, the Warsangeli general lost because Dhulos voted for Faroole instead of him.

All these little negligible clan issues we've had since then, are due to some clans not wanting to respect selection results.


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Now, you've read that backstory, you will understand what is happening in Jubbaland.
Kuumade has won and instead of allowing Madoobe to finish his legal terms in peace, Galgaduud Marehans who want to leave Galgaduud for Kismaayo, are sabotaging him.

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In short, Daarood follow the leader, whether it's in Puntland or Jubbaland, it's just Farmaajo's subclan in Galgaduud along with some angry Hawiye (who hate Jubbaland), who are causing all this trouble.


This has nothing to do with Kenya, who will leave as soon as Jubbaland is stable but everything to do with Marehan not respecting their place in the Daarood hierarchy and having no respect for their leadership.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Respect the results and wait your turn.

We are trying to move on to 1 man 1 vote and enough wealth and stability so that nobody cares which clan the President hails from.

Have some imaan and patience.

Most of us Puntites wanted Ina Diyaano to win, not Deni but we respected the outcome and will wait for Deni to finish his term.

Did we claim Ina Diyaano as the President and hold another election in Qardho? Did we try to sabotage Deni?

NO, guess why? Because we will not cut off our nose to spite our face.

 

[Wewuzkangs]

History:

Remember when Puntland was first created in 1998 and every subclan was given districts and representation/mps?
These MPs then went on to select every single President Puntland has ever ruled.

These leaders just so happened to be MJ, time and time again.

Now, an ignorant person would be inclined to say, " this is Majeerteenia, NOT Puntland"! But a smart person would follow the votes and notice that Mps select who they wish.

Ilkajiir, the Warsangeli general lost because Dhulos voted for Faroole instead of him.

All these little negligible clan issues we've had since then, are due to some clans not wanting to respect selection results.


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Now, you've read that backstory, you will understand what is happening in Jubbaland.
Kuumade has won and instead of allowing Madoobe to finish his legal terms in peace, Galgaduud Marehans who want to leave Galgaduud for Kismaayo, are sabotaging him.

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In short, Daarood follow the leader, whether it's in Puntland or Jubbaland, it's just Farmaajo's subclan in Galgaduud along with some angry Hawiye (who hate Jubbaland), who are causing all this trouble.


This has nothing to do with Kenya, who will leave as soon as Jubbaland is stable but everything to do with Marehan not respecting their place in the Daarood hierarchy and having no respect for their leadership.

I agree mj cousin

 

[Ayubi]

I agree, @PuntiteQueen you just debunked N&N propaganda on Puntland being a “Mj supremacist state” even though MPs from various PL clans choose who they want and majority just happens to be MJs and all PL Mps/clans participate in it.

You just dropped the mic and destroyed their propaganda.

 

[Jiron]

I understand ur perspective sister but the region is settled by practically every qabiil u can think of in Somalia, it is the definition of true diversity. To say that only one qabiil won and the election of Ahmed Islam (may god bless him for keeping the city safe and peaceful) is not being 100% honest. I believe SFG has every right to look out for the interest of every beel that calls this beautiful region home.

JL will emerge as the breadbasket of Somalia with unlimited potential, bordering two countries and having maritime rich in fish and oil. This is why it is imperative that every man and woman of the region have a say, why shabaab must be defeated, and why Kenya is fighting tooth and nail to control it. I believe things will get better soon, the region will have new leadership that looks out for the interest of its citizens and all of will be visiting, enjoying the scenery and drinking coconuts juice in Kismasyo mesmerizing beaches

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

We wanted Ina Diyaano to win, not Deni but we respected the outcome and will wait for Deni to finish his term.

I understand ur perspective sister but the region is settled by practically every qabiil u can think of in Somalia, it is the definition of true diversity. To say that only one qabiil won and the election of Ahmed Islam (may god bless him for keeping the city safe and peaceful) is not being 100% honest. I believe SFG has every right to look out for the interest of every beel that calls this beautiful region home.

JL will emerge as the breadbasket of Somalia with unlimited potential, bordering two countries and having maritime rich in fish and oil. This is why it is imperative that every man and woman of the region have a say, why shabaab must be defeated, and why Kenya is fighting tooth and nail to control it. I believe things will get better soon, the region will have new leadership that looks out for the interest of its citizens and all of will be visiting, enjoying the scenery and drinking coconuts juice in Kismasyo mesmerizing beaches

I mentioned that MPs select a leader and these MPs hail from different clans and districts.

The President should complete his term in peace no matter who he is.

I hate Farmajo but I will wait for him to finish, not try to cut his term short.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Respect the outcome of the election.

If you do not like it, replace the MP!!

 

[Jiron]

Respect the outcome of the election.

If you do not like it, replace the MP!!

Do you really believe the recent Election in JL was legitimate?

 

[diaby]

I understand ur perspective sister but the region is settled by practically every qabiil u can think of in Somalia, it is the definition of true diversity. To say that only one qabiil won and the election of Ahmed Islam (may god bless him for keeping the city safe and peaceful) is not being 100% honest. I believe SFG has every right to look out for the interest of every beel that calls this beautiful region home.

JL will emerge as the breadbasket of Somalia with unlimited potential, bordering two countries and having maritime rich in fish and oil. This is why it is imperative that every man and woman of the region have a say, why shabaab must be defeated, and why Kenya is fighting tooth and nail to control it. I believe things will get better soon, the region will have new leadership that looks out for the interest of its citizens and all of will be visiting, enjoying the scenery and drinking coconuts juice in Kismasyo mesmerizing beaches

The top 3 candidates (including those supported by N&N) were all Ogaden my good friend Jiron. Although many tribes live in Jubaland, Ogaden is the largest by far.

Do not forget that it is Ogaden who conquered the region from Oromo way back in the 1800s. We will defend our ancestors land with blood sxb, if there's one thing Ogaden knows very well it is warfare.

 

[Jiron]

The top 3 candidates (including those supported by N&N) were all Ogaden my good friend Jiron. Although many tribes live in Jubaland, Ogaden is the largest by far.

Do not forget that it is Ogaden who conquered the region from Oromo way back in the 1800s. We will defend our ancestors land with blood sxb, if there's one thing Ogaden knows very well it is warfare.

I can't dispute that sxb, I have no problem with OG president that treats all of JL citizens as his people and cares for the region and country as a whole. In good faith, u also must see why we are very suspicious of the most recent election, 7/8 years in office, charcoal trade, Kenyas close relationship with Ahmed and claim to our maritime as her own all at the same time etc. I am 100% sure, there's a young bright, educated OG leader who is aligned with the interest of the state, people and country. JL is much bigger than few individuals, and the success of the state is a WIN for all of us

 

[Wewuzkangs]

The top 3 candidates (including those supported by N&N) were all Ogaden my good friend Jiron. Although many tribes live in Jubaland, Ogaden is the largest by far.

Do not forget that it is Ogaden who conquered the region from Oromo way back in the 1800s. We will defend our ancestors land with blood sxb, if there's one thing Ogaden knows very well it is warfare.

The top 3 candidates (including those supported by N&N) were all Ogaden my good friend Jiron. Although many tribes live in Jubaland, Ogaden is the largest by far.

Do not forget that it is Ogaden who conquered the region from Oromo way back in the 1800s. We will defend our ancestors land with blood sxb, if there's one thing Ogaden knows very well it is warfare.

Guul axmed duxul

 

[diaby]

I can't dispute that sxb, I have no problem with OG president that treats all of JL citizens as his people and cares for the region and country as a whole. In good faith, u also must see why we are very suspicious of the most recent election, 7/8 years in office, charcoal trade, Kenyas close relationship with Ahmed and claim to our maritime as her own all at the same time etc. I am 100% sure, there's a young bright, educated OG leader who is aligned with the interest of the state, people and country. JL is much bigger than few individuals, and the success of the state is a WIN for all of us

The maritime dispute had nothing to do with Madoobe. The people who sold the sea are chilling in Xamar as we speak, take it up with them sxb.

Is charcoal trade illegal? If not then surely that is the fault of the FGS for allowing such practices.

Besides you are too nice to understand that the only trouble makers in the region are from Farmajo's clan. Ogaden live in large numbers in Bakool but you don't see us causing trouble for the South West State administration do you? We respect the rules and regulations as long as you do not declare war on us which is what N&N did with the Qalbidhagax incident, a very costly mistake indeed.

Why doesn't Farmajo's clan behave themselves like we do in SWS?

 

[nomand]

Focus on puntland, jubbaland has nothing to do with you.

 

[Ayubi]

Focus on puntland, jubbaland has nothing to do with you.

Your delusional, Jubaland has everything to do with her and MJs just like Cabuudwaaq has everything to do with you.

Mjs/hartis are important in JL and own a lot of thriving businesses there.

We also live there in significant numbers and also supported JL’s creation and had stood up for it against mooryaans who wanted to destroy it. We have history there since the 1800s and there’s enough documents to prove it. In the meantime, How’s Gedo going for ya? Did you learn how to build a toilet yet?

 

[nomand]

Your delusional, Jubaland has everything to do with her and MJs just like Cabuudwaaq has everything to do with you.

Mjs/hartis are important in JL and own a lot of thriving businesses there.

We also live there in significant numbers and also supported JL’s creation and had stood up for it against mooryaans who wanted to destroy it. We have history there since the 1800s and there’s enough documents to prove it. In the meantime, How’s Gedo going for ya? Did you learn how to build a toilet yet?

War ninjahow, sit down man and stop the bullshit, you are a minority in kismaayo.

It's like these poeple are indoctrinated by the same person they all spew the same propaganda. And it's only the 3 mohamouds the rest of majerteen waa dad asluub leh.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

Focus on puntland, jubbaland has nothing to do with you.

actually it does, she is a kablalax, Mj and then bicidyaan landeer who has Mps and ministers in jubaland down all the way to sub sub sub clan, most harti in kismayo are isman muxamuud, ciise M, cali saleeebn and bicivdyaan, i was born there and have cosuins from Mj, ask me, even an ayyeeyo osman muxamuud, i have 11 awowo buried in kismayo, in fact my great great great awow was part of the shir with making peace between harti and Mohamed zubeer in 1925 with the British where Sultan Ahmed Magan was crowned as the king as harti had a right, my awow was what today would be speaker of Parliament, the Absame Parliament or rather house of lords since it was made of Ogaden sub clans who sent garads, cheifs etc under Sultan Ahmed Magan the Wise,

how come there was no marehan in 1925 British / Harti/ Mohamed Zubeer peace deal in kismayo?

In 1925 local authorities from the Harti and Ogaden Somali clans reached an agreement in Kismayo, with the British acting as enforcer. The signatories each had different accounts of the agreed to partition. According to the Ogaden, the pact gave their Sultan Ahmed Magan control of Jubaland at large. The Harti maintained that the agreement stipulated that the part of the city south of the Liboi–Kismayo road would remain under their control, while the Ogaden, and its Mohamed Zubeir subdivision in particular, would administer Kismayo to the north of this and as the Kings of Jubaland at large.

My awow was the Ogaden standard bearer and the equivalent of the speaker of the house of lords/ garads, Isims or royalty, in fact he would nominate the new sultan and Mohamed Zubeer and Ogaden would vote or veto the new sultan, this is my 6th awow removed from me, he was in this very meeting with one of his bantu slaves he owned and got from a famous Mohamed Zubeer called Hussein Iljeex, who would be famously associated with the great and wise Sayidka,

i dont see any other tribe, other than us two, no one else, so where were your ancestors, mine was literally there , this pact came after Lafah Harti and the signature is in Kew archives in west london if you wish to see it, i grew up 2 miles from there

i bet you Bicidyaan has more lands and influence than your sub clan if compared across east africa, remember marehan is like a great great great great great uncle of harti,

i wonder which one is @diaby great great great awow and my great great great awow in this picture, Ugaas diaby my 6th awow is Kulac cali which every somali knows his famous poems, i wonder if your awow is in here, i am also sure my reer amadin side is in here too, since my 11th awow from udub asli is buried in kismayo and they had a seat in sultan Ahmed Magans sultanate as reer amadin lead the military campaigns in lafaha harti and pushing certain of our clans back to NFD, my 11th reer amadin awow on mum side, he literally conquered the land back in the first Ogaden wave of attacks in the 1780s and now a b00n wishes to boast to me, i will piss in your mouth b00n boy,

 

[Ayubi]

War ninjahow, sit down man and stop the bullshit, you are a minority in kismaayo.

It's like these poeple are indoctrinated by the same person they all spew the same propaganda. And it's only the 3 mohamouds the rest of majerteen waa dad asluub leh.

“Minority in Kismayo”? Lmaoooo, I realized I’m simply talking to a wall.

Instead of focusing on Kismayo, why don’t you focus on the lands that you were humiliated in and chased out by HG in central Somalia? Or Gedo which is the most messed up part of Somalia? Did you learn how to build a toilet yet in Gedo?

This guy “ MJs are a minority in Kismayo” Reer Abo siyad have been humiliated and took So many Ls it’s countless @Reer-Bari @FBIsomalia @Finesse @Teeri-Alpha @diaby @DR OSMAN @PuntiteQueen

 

[Farjano-Walad]

“Minority in Kismayo”? Lmaoooo, I realize I’m simply talking to a wall.

Instead of focusing on Kismayo, why don’t you focus on the lands that you were humiliated in and chased out by HG in central Somalia? Or Gedo which is the most messed up part of Somalia? Did you learn how to build a toilet yet in Gedo?

This guy “ MJs are a minority in Kismayo” Reer Abo siyad have been humiliated and took So many Ls it’s countless @Reer-Bari @FBIsomalia @Finesse @Teeri-Alpha @diaby @DR OSMAN @PuntiteQueen

ask him why the picture below in 1925 kismayo peace deal is between harti and Mohamed Zubeer an Ogaden sub clan, enforced by the British , where was marehan ?

In 1925 local authorities from the Harti and Ogaden Somali clans reached an agreement in Kismayo, with the British acting as enforcer. The signatories each had different accounts of the agreed to partition. According to the Ogaden, the pact gave their Sultan Ahmed Magan control of Jubaland at large. The Harti maintained that the agreement stipulated that the part of the city south of the Liboi–Kismayo road would remain under their control, while the Ogaden, and its Mohamed Zubeir subdivision in particular, would administer Kismayo to the north of this and as the Kings of Jubaland at large.

 

[TekNiKo]

These people are obsessed with Marehan. Its getting annoying

 

[nomand]

These people are obsessed with Marehan. Its getting annoying

They live in a fantasy world visit my ahmed madoobe is finished thread

You have Teeri claiming ogadeen settle and own half of gedo and half of bakool.

Their delusions is unreal.