It’s confirmed.,We all going back to the tent

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Gif-King
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Garowe I and Garowe II agreements all specificy the powers of the federal government and PL signed on, I suggest you read the real constitution which you can find on Villa Somalia website.
A dastuur without an independent judiciary is basically an elective monarchy which is exactly what the gareens enjoy currently.

Its childish to think the FMS with ports would submit themselves to that.
 

Jaale Ugaas

Medici and Marehan, one and the same. 🥂
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A dastuur without an independent judiciary is basically an elective monarchy which is exactly what the gareens enjoy currently.

Its childish to think the FMS with ports would submit themselves to that.
Which would have to be established as a prelude to the finalization of the constitution.

My main point is, when all is said and done and the state building process is over and all three branches of the government are well and truly fully operational every FMS will cede certain powers and privileges to the FGS.


Article 54. Allocation of powers
The allocation of powers and resources shall be negotiated and agreed upon by the Federal
Government and the Federal Member States (pending the formation of Federal Member States), except
in matters concerning: (A) Foreign Affairs` (B) National Defense` (C) Citizenship and Immigration` (D)
Monetary Policy, which shall be within the powers and responsibilities of the federal government.


 

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Which would have to be established as a prelude to the finalization of the constitution.

My main point is, when all is said and done and the state building process is over and all three branches of the government are well and truly fully operational every FMS will cede certain powers and privileges to the FGS.


Article 54. Allocation of powers
The allocation of powers and resources shall be negotiated and agreed upon by the Federal
Government and the Federal Member States (pending the formation of Federal Member States), except
in matters concerning: (A) Foreign Affairs` (B) National Defense` (C) Citizenship and Immigration` (D)
Monetary Policy, which shall be within the powers and responsibilities of the federal government.
Easier said then done. You have to have a judiciary to interpret and an executive that enforces that view. It isnt something you just sign into existence there needs to be a surrounding culture which imo can’t exist in Xamar.

There is no system that works in bad faith and Somalia has that in abundance. The bright side is atleast my bad faith president is a clansmen who won’t screw me over permanently :)
 
Which would have to be established as a prelude to the finalization of the constitution.

My main point is, when all is said and done and the state building process is over and all three branches of the government are well and truly fully operational every FMS will cede certain powers and privileges to the FGS.


Article 54. Allocation of powers
The allocation of powers and resources shall be negotiated and agreed upon by the Federal
Government and the Federal Member States (pending the formation of Federal Member States), except
in matters concerning: (A) Foreign Affairs` (B) National Defense` (C) Citizenship and Immigration` (D)
Monetary Policy, which shall be within the powers and responsibilities of the federal government.
The 2012 constitution was left purposely vague and open. Negotiations regarding the separation of powers weren't ever complete, but I'm telling you when it comes down to it, there is very little that will be given up. When all is said and done, the legal, political, security, education, healthcare, etc systems will still be outside of Xamar.

Sure, you might not see state issued passports, but things like foreign policy will still not be fully controlled from Xamar. If a state wants to sign a deal with a foreign nation, that's their right. This breaks point A. Remember when Deni even proposed possibly setting up a separate currency? According to point D, he shouldn't, but times have changed. You're appealing to a document that will only receive unanimous consent to finalize if it respects the new norm in regard to state rights.
 

Calaami

Garaadka Guud ee Beesha Calaamka
Subhanallah talk about Ila mareyso

Whenever a new FGS president comes they bray on about direct elections hoping it will buy them extra time in the kursi until they eventually go along with Afisyone program
 
That is no longer federalism then, its a glorified confederation. How is that sustainable in the long run?
I don't see the problem with it if it's beneficial for the people. For example, I remember a couple months ago reading SWS came to an agreement with Kuwait to develop Barawe port. This can be a good development for the region. The nation's governing system should suit the people's needs first and foremost.
 
I don't see the problem with it if it's beneficial for the people. For example, I remember a couple months ago reading SWS came to an agreement with Kuwait to develop Barawe port. This can be a good development for the region. The nation's governing system should suit the people's needs first and foremost.
Right but there can also be situations like SL's MoU for example.

Also, SWS believes its their right to keep ENDF in their lands. That isn't beneficial to the people at all.
 
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I’ve always wondered why do these presidents use 1M1V to extend their term? I get that they want 1M1V because it will allow them to rig elections in their favour. But wouldn’t it be easier for the sitting president to just use the current indirect voting system to bribe officials so that he can get reelected over and over again? After all as the president you have access to more money than your opposition.

Also, can someone inform me on why HSM’s former allies such as Kheyre, Deni, Madobe and Sharif have all turned on him? I’m assuming it’s because HSM probably made some promises to them and he didn’t fulfill said promises. For example I know with Deni he promised to make him the PM but HSM decide to make Hamza the PM instead.
 

Jaale Ugaas

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Also, can someone inform me on why HSM’s former allies such as Kheyre, Deni, Madobe and Sharif have all turned on him? I’m assuming it’s because HSM probably made some promises to them and he didn’t fulfill said promises. For example I know with Deni he promised to make him the PM but HSM decide to make Hamza the PM instead.
They were never real allies, they became united only in their hate of Farmaajo. As soon as he was gone they turned on each other. Just like the second Maxamed Siyaad Barre they also turned on each other.

Marehan truly unite the nation everytime they come to power, sometimes in more ways than one. :kanyehmm:
 

Thegoodshepherd

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They were never real allies, they became united only in their hate of Farmaajo. As soon as he was gone they turned on each other. Just like the second Maxamed Siyaad Barre they also turned on each other.

Marehan truly unite the nation everytime they come to power, sometimes in more ways than one. :kanyehmm:
Because Marehan politicians are very retarded people. The most geographically endowed state in Somalia is Gedo and yet it has an above average poverty rate and is completely politically dysfunctional.

Farmaajo wanted to give Banaadir 13 seats in the senate on top of the 16 given to Galmudug and Hiirshabelle. Lol
 
Reading some of this so called Allegedly Puntites posts gives me shuban biyood. Balo kugu cayaadhey oo dhulka kula jartey.

Sad Jim Carrey GIF
 

Libaax-Joore

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There will never be an independent country called Puntland. Puntland is Somalia and will always be Somali. No mercy will be shown to traitors. Cid runta kuu sheegtaad weyday ee taas ku seexo kuna soo toos.

f*ck you and puntland come to my land house of muse sultan futadan ka waseeya adigo iyo darood ku xarka add sheegto 😂😂
 
Because Marehan politicians are very retarded people. The most geographically endowed state in Somalia is Gedo and yet it has an above average poverty rate and is completely politically dysfunctional.

Farmaajo wanted to give Banaadir 13 seats in the senate on top of the 16 given to Galmudug and Hiirshabelle. Lol
Reer Galmudug Marehan are above Average Somali IQ. Look at shirdoon and Farmaajo, They number a small percent of Somalia yet way overrepresented.
 

Jaale Ugaas

Medici and Marehan, one and the same. 🥂
VIP
Because Marehan politicians are very retarded people. The most geographically endowed state in Somalia is Gedo and yet it has an above average poverty rate and is completely politically dysfunctional.

Farmaajo wanted to give Banaadir 13 seats in the senate on top of the 16 given to Galmudug and Hiirshabelle. Lol


Faarmajo has an illness called daarod nacayb iyo Marexaan ka carar I don't think he is representative of Marehan political objectives but his own ideas about a new Somalia.

He will post tacsi for women killed in Xamar during landgrabs but wont speak out when innocent souls are being killed in Beledhawo and the entire Marehan " Wadani " camp is the same they are more interested in the political machinations of Villa Somalia than their constituency. and then we have the horgals....

Gedo is also middle of the table (literally) when it comes to poverty index nationwide. It's also the richest gobol in its FMS. Id say for a people who have zero adept politicians Mx in Gedo are doing good. It's just a matter of time until the house cleans itself up.

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