It’s confirmed.,We all going back to the tent

What facade? He is right, the implementation of the constitution (the real constitution) is paramount to the security of the country.

PL signed the constitution and will have to play by the rules when it is finally finalised and adopted.

You can't make a set of rules and complain about having to follow it. Every FMS will follow the letter of the law and no exceptions.

PL like every other FMS is not an independent country but a region of the Federal Republic of Somalia. No more flying to Abu Dhabi to meet with the Emiratis to discuss how to weaken the Federal government. Foreign policy and National DEFENCE will be decided by Villa SOMALIA.
Shut up
 
How about coming with a clear and defined counter argument instead of "shut up". Everything he said is true, people in this country need to wake up and understand you can't pick and choose which laws to follow.
You’ll understand my position clearly, when I capture you and disappear you inside central Galkacyo prison, filthy kacaan orphan
 

Thegoodshepherd

Galkacyo iyo Calula dhexdood
VIP
What facade? He is right, the implementation of the constitution (the real constitution) is paramount to the security of the country.

PL signed the constitution and will have to play by the rules when it is finally finalised and adopted.

You can't make a set of rules and complain about having to follow it. Every FMS will follow the letter of the law and no exceptions.

PL like every other FMS is not an independent country but a region of the Federal Republic of Somalia. No more flying to Abu Dhabi to meet with the Emiratis to discuss how to weaken the Federal government. Foreign policy and National DEFENCE will be decided by Villa SOMALIA.
These people think that what Puntland has been seeking to build for the past 27 years, i.e a strong federal government, is somehow meaningless. They have become accustomed to this anarchy and think it is unacceptable for the FGS to have these powers. Waa dad waalan. Any constitution that is finalized will give the FGS the full right to station troops anywhere in Puntland, inspect and levy customs at every port of entry, conscript soldiers, levy income taxes etc...

They have forgotten what it means to have a functioning central gov, even one as limited as the FGS.

They think Culusow is the president of Afgooye and forget that this qaxbad is also president of Garowe.
 
These people think that what Puntland has been seeking to build for the past 27 years, i.e a strong federal government, is somehow meaningless. They have become accustomed to this anarchy and think it is unacceptable for the FGS to have these powers. Waa dad waalan. Any constitution that is finalized will give the FGS the full right to station troops anywhere in Puntland, inspect and levy customs at every port of entry, conscript soldiers, levy income taxes etc...

They have forgotten what it means to have a functioning central gov, even one as limited as the FGS.

They think Culusow is the president of Afgooye and forget that this qaxbad is also president of Garowe.
Shut up, there is no somalia nor will there ever be one
 
What ever that is separation if that works confederacy If that works federation if that works what ever develops the people and the economy . You ur self was for a period of time for puntland first now u have gone back to ur old self of greater somalia nothin wrong with that but will it work
 

livinlavish

Live life to the fullest
This is what your adeer AY fought for, by bringing in xabashi troops and aligning with them to install this dysfunctional government. Any kind of ciil you feel now is the direct result of his decisions. This is what he wanted, a foreign-backed fugazi government and now you are the one living through the consequences he signed up for.
 

FBIsomalia

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The FGS is the legal government of Somalia. It has 4 powers exclusively and among those are security and foreign affairs.

If the 2012 constitution is finalized with Puntland's consent, and the FGS continues to have these powers, Puntland will have no legal right to stop the FGS from basing its future navy in Bosaso, controlling the Tuurdibi customs point, or from building SNA bases at any location.

The only reason we can deny Culusow those powers as of now is because the constitution has not been finalized. If it is finalized with Puntland's consent by the next president, Puntland will have its security and foreign policy run from Xamar as is normal in every federal state in the world.

ANYONE in Puntland who takes up arms against the FGS at that point will be buried. That is khiyaano qaran.
Inshallah Puntland will not consent as we alive.
 
These people think that what Puntland has been seeking to build for the past 27 years, i.e a strong federal government, is somehow meaningless. They have become accustomed to this anarchy and think it is unacceptable for the FGS to have these powers. Waa dad waalan. Any constitution that is finalized will give the FGS the full right to station troops anywhere in Puntland, inspect and levy customs at every port of entry, conscript soldiers, levy income taxes etc...

They have forgotten what it means to have a functioning central gov, even one as limited as the FGS.

They think Culusow is the president of Afgooye and forget that this qaxbad is also president of Garowe.
Dowladnimo is a very hard concept for some people to understand. The kacaan strongman system with no rules or constitution is how everyone thinks a country should be ran. The job of the FGS is to fight AS & build the necessary federal institutions. The last 3 presidents have failed without even trying at all. The current FGS can't secure Afgooye or Calmiskaat. It doesn't have that capability yet and that's normal.
IMHO only a presidential candidate from PL who can leverage PL's army & expertise fighting terrorists can secure the south.
 
What ever that is separation if that works confederacy If that works federation if that works what ever develops the people and the economy . You ur self was for a period of time for puntland first now u have gone back to ur old self of greater somalia nothin wrong with that but will it work
Most of the guys screaming PL first live in foreign countries.. If you ask anyone on the street in Garowe or Gaalkayo to seperate PL from Somalia they'll laugh at you..
 
Well. It isn’t about any one else it is about puntland it self what works for them. Did puntland work as a defacfo country the past what 27 years yes it did , does puntland need Mogadishu or does Mogadishu need puntland. U need to ask ur self. It’s not about Europeans and what they think they can’t fix our problems . It seems Mogadishu can’t be fixed puntland has two options actually 3 options go it separate way and never look back and try to get it resources out and make it a rich nation . Stay in the same situation try to build a country with Mogadishu but every now and then have a fall out. Cry about aid money. Mogadishu not giving puntland . Or the 3rd option build a parallel goverment in puntland for all of Somalia get jubbbaland and south western on board and woqoyi bari the third option could work. Because people are sick and tired of Mogadishu i
 
This is what your adeer AY fought for, by bringing in xabashi troops and aligning with them to install this dysfunctional government. Any kind of ciil you feel now is the direct result of his decisions. This is what he wanted, a foreign-backed fugazi government and now you are the one living through the consequences he signed up for.
That was 100% nesscary and it would've happened with or without AY. It not our fault you chose to harbor Alqaeda allies in the south that went on air claiming they would storm Addis ababa at the height of war on terror when the US was invading multiple muslim countries. What did you think the US would do in that situation ? People defending ICU in big 2025 LMFAO
 
Most of the guys screaming PL first live in foreign countries.. If you ask anyone on the street in Garowe or Gaalkayo to seperate PL from Somalia they'll laugh at you..
PL first has nothing to do with secession, It's a movement to better PL from within.
 
This is what your adeer AY fought for, by bringing in xabashi troops and aligning with them to install this dysfunctional government. Any kind of ciil you feel now is the direct result of his decisions. This is what he wanted, a foreign-backed fugazi government and now you are the one living through the consequences he signed up for.
He left after it dawned on him that he made big mistake, wa geesi geesi dhalay, bro just walked out
 
Well. It isn’t about any one else it is about puntland it self what works for them. Did puntland work as a defacfo country the past what 27 years yes it did , does puntland need Mogadishu or does Mogadishu need puntland. U need to ask ur self. It’s not about Europeans and what they think they can’t fix our problems . It seems Mogadishu can’t be fixed puntland has two options actually 3 options go it separate way and never look back and try to get it resources out and make it a rich nation . Stay in the same situation try to build a country with Mogadishu but every now and then have a fall out. Cry about aid money. Mogadishu not giving puntland . Or the 3rd option build a parallel goverment in puntland for all of Somalia get jubbbaland and south western on board and woqoyi bari the third option could work. Because people are sick and tired of Mogadishu i
PL is part of Somalia, You can't go back in time to the 1880s and change that. If PL want's to thrive they have to compete for the top seat in the FGS. If your funds are in Xamar then you should control Xamar. Only a candidate PL can truly pacify AS.
 

Thegoodshepherd

Galkacyo iyo Calula dhexdood
VIP
@The Oponian Guild @FBIsomalia Puntland waa maamul goboleed Somalia ka tirsan. Puntland is part of Somalia, the capital of Somalia is Xamar, and Xasan Sheekh is our president. You have to swallow this bitter pill.

There will never be an independent Puntland. It will never happen. People like me will side with the Hawiye dominated SNA mooryaan and invade Puntland to make sure it does not happen. I am 100% serious.
 
@The Oponian Guild @FBIsomalia Puntland waa maamul goboleed Somalia ka tirsan. Puntland is part of Somalia, the capital of Somalia is Xamar, and Xasan Sheekh is our president. You have to swallow this bitter pill.

There will never be an independent Puntland. It will never happen. People like me will side with the Hawiye dominated SNA mooryaan and invade Puntland to make sure it does not happen. I am 100% serious.
We prepare torture and bullets for you if you brave enough. If you survive you won’t come back a man 😂
 

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