What are you own morals, you are talking like you are world renown philosopher. Just say I got brainwashed and I rather fit in with my white non Muslim friends. It easier to fit into society then hold your own firm belief.It’s scary how easily women get brainwashed.
It’s always the liberal Muslims embarrassing us
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Lmao no.
i personally don’t believe there’s nothing wrong with for example: apostates. (Small example, there are many things I just don’t agree with)
in Islam it’s prohibited to be an apostate so why should I change a religion to let it fit my own narratives and beliefs? It’s the best to leave it because you won’t be causing yourself a headache and won’t be half assing while following Islam.
Al Shabab came to power in 2006, Somalia has been a failed since 1991 due to qabyalad, how is that a foreign issue? Today they are still fighting in accordance to qabiils, you can’t blame the west on that. We have to hold our own nuts. This is our own fault. Al Shabab are Somalis, whether you like it or not.
We didn’t go through civil war over religion though so wtf does 91 have to do with this??? Al shabaab was “established” when US-backed TPLF Ethiopia
invaded Somalia.
Also UAE/Saudi fund terrorists here yet are close American/Israeli allies, but they don’t have any terrorist attacks. Only other countries. How are you this foolish. Just look at how hawk eyed Saudi funded mosques are in Malaysia/Indonesia. They had a few attacks and zoned in on the root factor. Now Saudi want to “modernize” after causing choas in the ummah
Get over your “liberal” shit and see the big picture. These people are not your allies you fool. Your liberal kind are just another piece on the chest table.
Lmao lemme ask you a question what year did Ethiopia invade Somalia? What year was the battle of Mogadishu? How many years of drone stricks from the west did Somalis suffer?
The fall of Somalia was because of a socialist dictator who thought he could play god. He had very left wing views and He preached anti qabil but punished qabils that weren’t following orders.
Al shabaab is a reaction to these conflicts. Not to mention foreign money being powered into the group
Try to contextualize history before you make these huge claims
Then why did Somalis not resolve the conflict after the coup of the dictator, instead of fighting for 15 years before Ethiopia invaded. Somalia has been on civil war for more than 30+ years. Another point, we were always Muslims but it was just 2006 that suicide bombing started in Somalia. The rise of alshabab is directly related to the rise of Saudi Arabia petrodollar and wahabbism. You can’t blame the air strikes which killed leaders of alshabab (although also civilians) on the lack of competent and uncorrupted Somali leaders.
That is exactly my point, like I said, wahabbist clerks from the gulf created alshabab, but the idea the west wants destabilized Somalia is just plain retarded. They subsidize our gdp and have hundreds of thousands of refugees from Somalia. Lol at the “liberal shit” I will be liberal and in my opinion the only way forward for Somalia is liberal democracyWe didn’t go through civil war over religion though so wtf does 91 have to do with this??? Al shabaab was “established” when US-backed TPLF Ethiopia
invaded Somalia.
Also UAE/Saudi fund terrorists here yet are close American/Israeli allies, but they don’t have any terrorist attacks. Only other countries. How are you this foolish. Just look at how hawk eyed Saudi funded mosques are in Malaysia/Indonesia. They had a few attacks and zoned in on the root factor. Now Saudi want to “modernize” after causing choas in the ummah
Get over your “liberal” shit and see the big picture. These people are not your allies you fool. Your liberal kind are just another piece on the chest table.
the battle of mogidishu was in 1993. This included military raids and air stricks. After that up until 2006-2009 was the Ethiopian war backed by the US prior to that fighting was at a halt and progress was being made. Al shabaab was a reaction to these outsiders trying to meddle with our land i don’t support this but your acting like Somalis just became violent fanatics when that is clearly not the case.
the west has interest in destabilizing Africa. By giving out loans and aid this is used to keep these nations in debt so they always be under the mercy of the western world.
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You do know where “wahhabist” came from??? And how involved they are with the west? They’re the reason Ottoman empire fell.That is exactly my point, like I said, wahabbist clerks from the gulf created alshabab, but the idea the west wants destabilized Somalia is just plain retarded. They subsidize our gdp and have hundreds of thousands of refugees from Somalia. Lol at the “liberal shit” I will be liberal and in my opinion the only way forward for Somalia is liberal democracy
He can’t help bootyclapping for his lords and saviors. Let’s just stop. These types have rocks for brains.
Al-shabab happened because of the Ethiopian invasion in 2006. Before that, Islamic courts union rose to power and stopped the fighting between warlords in southern Somalia. Somalis couldn’t unite because of qabyaalad, so we used Islam.
Islamic courts union or ICU was a moderate faction. By all means it wasn’t perfect but they achieved something remarkable. Peace.
Due to war on terror United States encouraged Ethiopia and they did, partly also due to their own interest. Al-shabaab was a radical group within ICU, numbering only in few hundreds. They held no power and were on the sidelines.
The invasion quickly filled their ranks as they were the military wing also. After the invasion failed, Al-shabaab had gained immense power and turned to brutalise fellow somalis.
The west and us somalis equally are to be blamed for Al-shabaab. The west for creating them due to ”war on terror” and us for not fighting back against the organisation.
The west made the ottoman fall because they sided with the Germans in ww1, they didn’t give a f*ck about arabs and their Wahhabism. They just wanted the arabs to help them overthrow the ottomans. Wahabbism existed way before that and Even ruled the saudi peninsula.
Who is bootyclapping? The one blaming others for his own incompetence. Answer this question, why is Somalia a xaarhole that had 30 years of civil war and qabyaalad. “It is the white man” 
I never said that you doqon.
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Everything went downhill when the white man stepped foot in the horn
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Tell which interpretation you follow
My thinking is they pass for white easier, so they assimilate quicker.
These groups left the beautiful religion of Islam and adapted secular policies and liberal lifestyles in order to get material goods and pleasures as the west. The west turned on them and threw them out like a used condom once they served no more use to them. Nothing but pure cuckery.
By acting like the gaalo they became losers in the dunya and they will be losers in the akhira.
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I agree.
if your interests don’t align with Islam anymore it’s the best to just leave the religion.
