Islam vs western values.

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  1. Bile Huruse

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    Abayo we are not comparing but coming fully to terms with our believe.
     
  2. CaliSomali

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    People aged much quicker back then. She wouldn’t be the same as a nine year old today. The Prophet forbid people from marrying girls who were not of age and without her own volition. That effectively bans child marriage.
     
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    I understand that, but the Prophet’s marriage was (and still is) an outdated Arabian cultural practice. If you are Muslim but not ethnically or culturally Arab, why do it? It doesn’t make sense.
     
  4. Bile Huruse

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    I'm referring to the liberal ones.
     
  5. Bile Huruse

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    If the prophet did it means that it's halal so how would you object to it.
     
  6. Bile Huruse

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    Let's say you found your dream girl and she is mentally and physically mature,but she is 9 years old. Would you still marry her then?
     
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    9 year olds today are not capable of marriage or consent. They are still children.
     
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  8. The alchemist

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    Bruh, 9 year old dream girl? This time the word 'girl' is taken too literal:cryinglaughsmiley::cryinglaughsmiley:
     
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  9. Bile Huruse

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    what I'm saying is if she was mentally and physically capable.
    Wallahi I'm starting to think that you're deliberately misunderstanding me.
     
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  10. Bile Huruse

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    Alright! let's say you lived at the time of the prophet (pbu) and you fell in love with a 9 years old girl who is just like aisha in every aspect.what would yo have done in that case!. I feel like you all know what I mean but subconsciously find it disturbing which is the whole point of this thread.
     
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  11. Bile Huruse

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    Wallahi I was slow there:chrisfreshhah:
     
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  12. The alchemist

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    Is it even possible to get romantically in love with a 9 year old?
     
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  13. Bile Huruse

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    I don't even wanna imagine, but I guess nothing is impossible:manny:
     
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    I mean yes, if the girl is a social genius and maybe suffers from a rare mental disease that make her think like an adult or something. But what is the odds of that? And even in that nearly impossible scenario you stumble on a new problem. In a normal romantic setting there lies a constant sexual undertone, so if you proclaim that you love a child romantically, then you are somewhat of a pedophile.

    Maybe in a situation where you mary a 9 year old. And you restrain your urges, but cultivate a form of social bond until the girl becomes an adult, would make a better argument. But even in that situation many issues arises. Too many problems, so it's best to ban the practice, and we don't want to give pedo's legal pass
     
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  15. Bile Huruse

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    But wouldn't that be some sort of kufr. How can you make something halal haram. Btw I highly doubt there is much difference between Arab 9 years old girls now and then.
     
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    da fuck are you looking for an excuse to marry a little girl back home ?
     
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  17. The alchemist

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    If it is halal then, ok. I mean, in a perfect world where everybody got good intentions then you would make it legal, but in this reality that assumption should not be made because the majority are corrupt.

    Let's make an example. Let's say it is halal to own weapons for the purpose of protecting oneself. But in reality people are using these weapons for ill inventions and the death rates are staggering. Is it not logical to ban the practise of owning weapons so people can be more safe?

    How it ought to be and how it really is, are two different things. And we should not make laws based on how things ought to be and ignore reality.
     
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  18. Bile Huruse

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    Bisinka, what makes think that:faysalwtf:
     
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    Actually I'm all for that .what I intended to get at was the thought of marring a 9 years old no matter the circumstances makes most of us disgusted. Should that be the case even though the prophet married aishaa at that age .
     
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    As Muslims, we shouldn't under any circumstances dilute the integral morals and ethics of our faith to fit this constantly changing and evolving secular and kaffir culture. What if it was socially acceptable here in the West to marry animals? :farmajoyaab:Y'all would be sitting here trying to deliberately pervert and manipulate the Holy Qu'ran and Hadith to fit your agenda.
     
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