Iranian shi'ism exposed

[VixR]

Husayn Ibn Ali was not a shia nor were his family. Majority of the victims of the Umayyads were Sunnis.
The Umayyads were power hungry absolute monarchy and killed any who posed a threat. Husayn Ibn Ali ra knew very well what he was doing when he left for Kufa. He fought and died for what he believed in, so did Abdallah ibn Zubayr

His father, Ali (the fourth caliph), was assassinated and when the Muawiya/Yazid took over, there was already a faction forming within the Muslims that believed the caliphate was stolen (Shia is actually short for Shiat Ali, The Ali party). But killing Hussein and his small army in Karbala when he opposed them, and further mutilating their bodies on the field, and then killing the rest of prophet’s own blood by the Sunnis is what put the cap on the formation of the Shia sect.

 

[Samaalic Era]

His father, Ali (the fourth caliph), was assassinated and when the Muawiya/Yazid took over, there was already a faction forming within the Muslims that believed the caliphate was stolen (Shia is actually short for Shiat Ali, The Ali party). But killing Hussein and his small army in Karbala when he opposed them, and further mutilating their bodies on the field, and then killing the rest of prophet’s own blood by the Sunnis is what put the cap on the formation of the Shia sect.

@Struggle you wont kidding sxb

 

[VixR]

@Struggle you wont kidding sxb

Yep, go read all about it. It’s very fascinating. Otherwise, the pod I linked is a very good primer.

Wallahi, the Shias turn out looking like the right “team”. And for all their numbers, 90% of Muslims (Sunnis) look like they’re the wrong sect Satan lead astray.

 

[Samaalic Era]

His father, Ali (the fourth caliph), was assassinated and when the Muawiya/Yazid took over, there was already a faction forming within the Muslims that believed the caliphate was stolen (Shia is actually short for Shiat Ali, The Ali party). But killing Hussein and his small army in Karbala when he opposed them, and further mutilating their bodies on the field, and then killing the rest of prophet’s own blood by the Sunnis is what put the cap on the formation of the Shia sect.

It was a political chess game that Husayn Ibn Ali lost.

In what world do you raise an army and attempt to take over a city and expect no response

 

[VixR]

It was a political chess game that Husayn Ibn Ali lost.

In what world do you raise an army and attempt to take over a city and expect no response

So the proper response is to kill your prophet’s entire remaining family and mutilate their corpses

 

[Samaalic Era]

So the proper response is to kill your prophet’s entire remaining family and mutilate their corpses

Its a grey issue however, if you do choose the sword, then you must be ready to die and expect death.

Just because your related to the Prophet pbuh doesn't make you any special. There are conseqeuences for ones actions

 

[VixR]

Its a grey issue however, if you do choose the sword, then you must be ready to die and expect death.

Just because your related to the Prophet pbuh doesn't make you any special. There are conseqeuences for ones actions

You know it was ultimately Abu Sufyan and Hind, who were peak resistors of the prophet prior to converting, it was their descendants that slaughtered the prophet’s family so thoroughly (including those not in the battle btw, minors, women, etc). It’s all very ironic. You get to wondering where Allah and the angels from the battle of Uhud, etc, were. And why most of Islam’s followers are on that side of things.

 

[Samaalic Era]

You know it was ultimately Abu Sufyan and Hind, who were peak resistors of the prophet prior to converting, it was their descendants that slaughtered the prophet’s family so thoroughly (including those not in the battle btw, minors, women, etc). It’s all very ironic. You get to wonder where Allah and the angels of battle like Uhud were.

Death is not defeat for the Mumin but rather it is surrender.
Husayn died with honor and dignity

 

[VixR]

Death is not defeat for the Mumin but rather it is surrender.
Husayn died with honor and dignity

I’m sure that’s how the Shia console themselves (and also how the Sunni defends their sect).

 

[Dino]

shiia are not a problem but salafism the evil death cult created by wahabists and britian that's lead to the killings of millions of muslims., shiiia muslims have been around since the early days of islam

bashar al assad and khamenei have murdered more muslims than america in the iraq war. GTHO

 

[AdoonkaAlle]

Only on sspot would you find an atheist supporting shias and espousing their exaggerations, lies etc as truth. claiming that they supposedly are on the right path while sunnis were led astray by satan. The same shia who regard taqiyyah (lying, deceiving etc) as a basic principle in their theology are now more credible and trustworthy ??

How is it possible for a group of people who proclaim love and admiration for the household of the Prophet ( Peace be upon him ) yet curse and accuse the majority of the sahabah and Aisha (may Allah be blessed with them all) people that were very dear to Prophet ( Peace be upon him ) of vile actions?

The shias ( original ones) were the same people who turned their back and betrayed Hussein ( May Allah be pleased with him) after pledging allegiance to him, the same people yet again betrayed his (Hussein) grandson , Zayd and he too was killed. This incident led to the creation of a new branch within shiaism which was named after him (zaydi shias). The houthis of yemen belong to this sub branch of shia.

 

[Samaalic Era]

Only on sspot would you find an atheist supporting shias and espousing their exaggerations, lies etc as truth. claiming that they supposedly are on the right path while sunnis were led astray by satan. The same shia who regard taqiyyah (lying, deceiving etc) as a basic principle in their theology are now more credible and trustworthy ??

How is it possible for a group of people who proclaim love and admiration for the household of the Prophet ( Peace be upon him ) yet curse and accuse the majority of the sahabah and Aisha (may Allah be blessed with them all) people that were very dear to Prophet ( Peace be upon him ) of vile actions?

The shias ( original ones) were the same people who turned their back and betrayed Hussein ( May Allah be pleased with him) after pledging allegiance to him, the same people yet again betrayed his (Hussein) grandson , Zayd and he too was killed. This incident led to the creation of a new branch within shiaism which was named after him (zaydi shias). The houthis of yemen belong to this sub branch of shia.

Its the so called "Sunni" brothers who are killing Somalis in the Middle East and North Africa. While I totally reject Shiite beliefs, they do not concern us.

What does concern us is the so calles Sunni Arabs who pretend to be Muslims but are in reality munafiqeen

 

[AdoonkaAlle]

Its the so called "Sunni" brothers who are killing Somalis in the Middle East and North Africa. While I totally reject Shiite beliefs, they do not concern us.

What does concern us is the so calles Sunni Arabs who pretend to be Muslims but are in reality munafiqeen

Sunni somalis have killed and wrecked havoc on their fellow sunni somalis more so than any other sunni ethnic group yet you seem not to have a problem with that why is that ?


why hate an entire ethnic group when they haven't committed 1 % of the injustices somalis have committed against each other ? shouldn't somalis be our main priority and concern instead of others ?

Sxb you've unhealthy cuqdad of carabta iska jooji before it leads you astray.

 

[Samaalic Era]

Sunni somalis have killed and wrecked havoc on their fellow sunni somalis more so than any other sunni ethnic group yet you seem not to have a problem with that why is that ?

why hate an entire ethnic group when they haven't committed 1 % of the injustices somalis have committed against each other ? shouldn't somalis be our main priority and concern instead of others ?

Sxb you've unhealthy cuqdad of carabta iska jooji before it leads you astray.

It amazes me how when I point out how Arabs are enemies to Somalis,Somali Salafis then attack and slander their own people

 

[AdoonkaAlle]

It amazes me how when I point out how Arabs are enemies to Somalis,Somali Salafis then attack and slander their own people

It amazes me to see the level of blame shifting somalis like you are willing to resort to just to avoid accountability and self reflection of our current situation. carab miya dalkeena buurburiye mise waa anaga ?

The discussion was about the differences between sunni & shia regarding historical events that took place but you were the one who shifted from that. Waa yaab wallahi

 

[Samaalic Era]

It amazes me to see the level of blame shifting somalis like you are willing to resort to just to avoid accountability and self reflection of our current situation. carab miya dalkeena buurburiye mise waa anaga ?

The discussion was about the differences between sunni & shia regarding historical events that took place but you were the one who shifted from that. Waa yaab wallahi

Why are you bringing Somalis into this when its clearly about Sunni Arabs

 

[AdoonkaAlle]

Why are you bringing Somalis into this when its clearly about Sunni Arabs

Were the shia not arabs as well ?

If your main concern was about the welfare of somali people in general then why do you only care about their suffering at the hands of arabs ? what about those who suffer at the hands of their fellow somalis ? don't they deserve your sympathy mise you couldn't care less ? Common sense dictates that you deal with the most pressing issue first and continue from there.

Had your concern for the state of somalis been genuine to begin with then you wouldn't have concerned yourself with arabs when you fully know that somalis suffer the most as result of being oppressed by their fellow kin whom they share lineage, culture and most importantly religion.

Your only using the suffering of somalis at the hands of arabs as means to justify your hatred of arabs, their suffering is a just a means to suit your agenda nothing more, is their suffering credible only when the culprits are arabs ? Do you know understand how bad this looks ?