I’m glad you can at least admit it. I find it funny how @Apollo called the West degrading and degenerate compared to China. If anything the West is more degenerate in its past that it is now, and China is without a doubt nowhere in its league. China is admirable in its own ways, but the main reason people admire it is bc it’s the “anti-West”.Okay I admit, I'm low-key taking the piss. However, I do admire China in many ways. Although you have a point, Westerners are probably more moral today.