How is that any good if we can’t keept Somaliland as part of Somalia I don’t see what good it does if awdal is it’s own country. What will that serve I don’t get it if Ethiopia attacks awdal then or Zeila. Awdal can’t defend it self and wil most likely not get help from djibouti or Somaliland since theetafel their own how can u suggest more division we meest to stop these ultra secessionist such as ur self
If S/land is recognised Somalia should centralise rapidly
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What is the point of this What purpose does it serve to bring down another somali qabil. Yeah sure this looks bad that that elder kissed haile sellasie hand , but that doesn’t mean he is Ogaden u don’t know for sure and even if he was that doesn’t make all Ogaden traitors .It’s like me saying all isaaq are traitor because they fought against the sayid ina igare doesn’t represent all isaaq .when we do know there were so many isaaq dervishes such as sultan nur aman and Haji sudi and ibrahim boghul and ina shihiri .
Ogaden is a great clan with allot of history and bravery and u know this to , u just don’t want to admit it
this is the reason Somalia is the way that it is, people here geniunley believe this nonsense.
I dont get where this is coming from this is genuinley a crack pipe statement, I think Landers need to gear up since I've underestimated how deep the Somalia fake news messaging is, Firstly Awdal isn't pro unionist its one of the most secure Pro SL regions there is alongside Zeila, the contention in SL exists in the far east with some parts wanting to be unionist and if that is the case they can hold their views provided their peaceful, but this is the thing you guys only export violence which is why we don't want to be in the union. Secondly, also you have no power to do this either way otherwise you would have done so already.
Garaad Awal
Former African
Weren’t you calling Isaaqs traitors. Shut up nigga. Jabartis were calling themselves “Children of the English” while getting fiddled by Xabeshis. Not that different today except you also have Bantu Papis from Kenya, Uganda & Burundi alongside the Abyssinian’s & Westerners.
You literally called Isaaqs historical traitors and now you are tap dancing and trying to moonwalk it back because you exposed yourself as a fake ethnic nationalist when…surprise, surprise!!! You are nothing more than a Jabarti supremacist. Your people were footstools for every colonial power in the Horn except the French from the Italians to the Abyssinian’s to the Brits.
@Abaq @Removed
I would not be worried much about recognition. It has a nonzero probability, but it is still quite unlikely. I once had my prior on recognition at ~33%, seeing this map knocked that down by more than an order of magnitude to ~3%.
A independent Somaliland that is based on the borders of British Somaliland would have a Harti plurality within ~30 years.
Think of Isaaq as Djibouti and Harti as Somalia. The name of this phenomenon is differential fertility.
Isaaq have a TFR of 5.3 while Harti TFR is at 7.7. That is a difference of 2.4 children per woman or 45%.
I made this comment 4 years ago
https://www.somalispot.com/threads/...e-up-sool-sanaag-and-cayn.117254/post-2997076
I would not be worried much about recognition. It has a nonzero probability, but it is still quite unlikely. I once had my prior on recognition at ~33%, seeing this map knocked that down by more than an order of magnitude to ~3%.
A independent Somaliland that is based on the borders of British Somaliland would have a Harti plurality within ~30 years.
Think of Isaaq as Djibouti and Harti as Somalia. The name of this phenomenon is differential fertility.
Isaaq have a TFR of 5.3 while Harti TFR is at 7.7. That is a difference of 2.4 children per woman or 45%.
I made this comment 4 years ago
https://www.somalispot.com/threads/...e-up-sool-sanaag-and-cayn.117254/post-2997076
Chaseyourdreamzz
VIP
This means the population of waqooyi bari is doubling every 9 or 10 years similar to Niger
It will be a cold day in hell when there is an Ogadeni president ruling Somalia, your shenanigans in JL have bolstered your confidence and now you want to make a foray into national politics.
Illahow ceebta naga astuur, to articulate my feelings on this matter I'd like to quote a poem you are familiar with I believe.
Leave Villa Somalia to those who have a history of ruling somalis since the medieval age and focus on consolidating what little you have in our country. Your 2 districts in Somalia paint a picture of how relevant you are in this country.
Doubling time for Harti Woqooyi is 15 years and 26 years for Isaaq. A vast gulf has opened up.
There is going to be war, but I don't expect any conflict until after NE state has stabilized itself in Sanaag and comes to include all of the Sanaag Warsangeli.
Dagaalka Sanaag waa lama huraan ee wuxuu u baahanyahay midnimo iyo tacab. Inshallah cagta hosteed ayaad mar kale geli doontaan.
Almis
The Gulf of Berbera
Mindnimo iyo tacab iyo tira koobka islaahama wax dhala
Meanwhile we expanding and making new deegans.
Saleh
ICTIRAAFKA CADAABTA KU JIRA
this is the definition of wishful thinking
for 10 years you have been posting this hoping it happens the region they are majority in (sool) has the highest infant mortality rate in SL coupled with the highest open defecation rate and lowest HDI, people in those living conditions have more sex but live much shorter lives because they lack the infrastructure and institutions to sustain them. as for sanaag, of the 5 districts ceerigaabo, garadag, ceel afweyn are isaaq majority, with harti as majority in badhan, lasqoray. mac sonkor, may the HJ expansion in your lands continue
Nah only us Issaqs are honorable Ethiopians, you guys are Somalians
@Abdisamad what’s the plan Ina adeer
You are making up liesthis is the definition of wishful thinking
Garadag is not a district and has never been one of the five recognized districts of Sanaag.
The five official districts are Ceerigaabo, Badhan, Dhahar, Las Qorey, and Ceel Afweyn — all of which leave the Harti as the majority in the Sanaag region.
Even your enclave admits it.
