I will probably marry back home

[wheel]

Yes women are 10000x better back home because they are raised in a society that is Muslim and conservative. That’s why the prophet (saw) told us to make hijrah to Muslim lands. It seems you are in denial that society plays a huge role in the upbringing in women. There is no party culture, clubbing, boyfriend/girlfriend culture these things are all shunned you do know like a third of Somalia is controlled by al shabab?

I am not saying just women are worse off in the West, the men are just as worse if not more as well.

It seems like your clueless about what's going on in Somalia, there's definitely ppl partying/fornicating in the major cities. It's weird because on the one hand you acknowledge the men have been influenced by their society just like women but think the perfect partner for a somali man in the west isnt the one he shares culture/upbringing with but some ultra religious reer baadiyo woman. Plus in this thread there's been a pattern of exaggerating how terrible the women here in the west are, like equating them with cadaan women. There's plenty of women who remain chaste, and take the deen seriously, sure some might listen to music, but they're not harlots and are better mate for the average faarax in the west (who btw is prob worse in this than the woman in all fairness).

 

[World]

It seems like your clueless about what's going on in Somalia, there's definitely ppl partying/fornicating in the major cities. It's weird because on the one hand you acknowledge the men have been influenced by their society just like women but think the perfect partner for a somali man in the west isnt the one he shares culture/upbringing with but some ultra religious reer baadiyo woman. Plus in this thread there's been a pattern of exaggerating how terrible the women here in the west are, like equating them with cadaan women. There's plenty of women who remain chaste, and take the deen seriously, sure some might listen to music, but they're not harlots and are better mate for the average faarax in the west (who btw is prob worse in this than the woman in all fairness).

Yeah it’s clear you’re in denial, i bet you believe that apostasy is more common in Somalia than in the west as well. You are just talking out your ass at this point. I have been to Somalia, and to Nairobi/garissa. Even in Nairobi it’s 100x better than the west. There are 20 million Somalis I can tell you now not even 1 % of them are doing the things you mentioned, in fact I would wager that it’s mainly the diaspora people who are spreading that shit.

 

[Periplus]

Yes women are 10000x better back home because they are raised in a society that is Muslim and conservative. That’s why the prophet (saw) told us to make hijrah to Muslim lands. It seems you are in denial that society plays a huge role in the upbringing in women. There is no party culture, clubbing, boyfriend/girlfriend culture these things are all shunned you do know like a third of Somalia is controlled by al shabab?

Have you ever heard of forbidden fruit?

Also, have you encountered many Iranian and/or Saudi people. They may have interesting opinions on your points.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2001/02/19/bahrain-bridge-links-saudis-to-banned-pleasures/8f3264f6-b7ca-4a7a-bf6f-80d47cc68a63/

Iran's secular shift: new survey reveals huge changes in religious beliefs

A huge new online survey of Iranians reveals only 40% identify as Muslim.

theconversation.com

 

[World]

Have you ever heard of forbidden fruit?

Also, have you encountered many Iranian and/or Saudi people. They may have interesting opinions on your points.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2001/02/19/bahrain-bridge-links-saudis-to-banned-pleasures/8f3264f6-b7ca-4a7a-bf6f-80d47cc68a63/

Iran's secular shift: new survey reveals huge changes in religious beliefs

A huge new online survey of Iranians reveals only 40% identify as Muslim.

theconversation.com

Look at you guys bringing all sorts of theories to try and paint women back home as these harami girls who take off their niqabs and jilbabs in the day time and spend their nights fornicating and partying. It’s so pathetic.

 

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Look at you guys bringing all sorts of theories to try and paint women back home as these harami girls who take off their niqabs and jilbabs in the day time and spend their nights fornicating and partying. It’s so pathetic.

since smartphones became cheap globalization has touched every city in somalia and buufis has skyrocketed. if you marry gabar from back home you should stay there. fobs cant handle the west and its temptations.

 

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Look at you guys bringing all sorts of theories to try and paint women back home as these harami girls who take off their niqabs and jilbabs in the day time and spend their nights fornicating and partying. It’s so pathetic.

No, you have completely missed the point.

The argument, I and a lot of other people have presented is that there are haramis everywhere.

The vast majority of women in the diaspora and at home are good muslims laakin do not be deluded as if Somalia is an Islamic paradise full of pious people and the diaspora is full of haram women.

 

[wheel]

Yeah it’s clear you’re in denial, i bet you believe that apostasy is more common in Somalia than in the west as well. You are just talking out your ass at this point. I have been to Somalia, and to Nairobi/garissa. Even in Nairobi it’s 100x better than the west.

Way to jump the shark there, how on earth do you equate apostasy rates in the west to folks holding parties, there are literally vids out there proving the latter. Btw your just arguing something i have never claimed, i have already acknowledged that ppl are considerably more conservative/traditional in somalia.

 

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No, you have completely missed the point.

The argument, I and a lot of other people have presented is that there are haramis everywhere.

The vast majority of women in the diaspora and at home are good muslims laakin do not be deluded as if Somalia is an Islamic paradise full of pious people and the diaspora is full of haram women.

10 years ago you could drop off a kid at any regional capital for dhaqan celis and xataa in gabar lugu daro. that has become obsolete because good quality smartphones became cheaper and more accessible by 2013/2014. people went from going to internet cafe to use internet to having the world at their fingertips. the "miskeen gabar back home" is an outdated mentality.

 

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10 years ago you could drop off a kid at any regional capital for dhaqan celis and xataa in gabar lugu daro. that has become obsolete because good quality smartphones became cheaper and more accessibly by 2013/2014. people went from going to internet cafe to use internet to having the world at their fingertips. the "miskeen gabar back home" is an outdated mentality.

People forget that globalisation means you do not need to go to the West to be Westernised now.

You just need a smartphone, some knowledge of english and access to the internet.

 

[World]

No, you have completely missed the point.

The argument, I and a lot of other people have presented is that there are haramis everywhere.

The vast majority of women in the diaspora and at home are good muslims laakin do not be deluded as if Somalia is an Islamic paradise full of pious people and the diaspora is full of haram women.

I know of a Somali girl friendship group there is like 8 of them around 1-2 years younger than me literally they all wear hijabs and smoke weed, most of them have a man, the one who is a virgin and doesn’t smoke/drink alcohol goes clubbing with them. Khasaaros.
Somalia is a paradise compared to that shit. If you don’t change your mindset, you will be one of them men who marries these women.

The majority of “chaste” women in the West seem to be unattractive and are unable to get men interested in them.

 

[Periplus]

I know of a Somali girl friendship group there is like 8 of them around 1-2 years younger than me literally they all wear hijabs and smoke weed, most of them have a man, the one who is a virgin and doesn’t smoke/drink alcohol goes clubbing with them. Khasaaros.
Somalia is a paradise compared to that shit. If you don’t change your mindset, you will be one of them men who marries these women.

The majority of “chaste” women in the West seem to be unattractive and are unable to get men interested in them.

Honest question: Have you had pre-marital sex before?