I CHALLENGE DR OSMAN TO AN ECONOMIC DEBATE ABOUT DEVELOPMENT

[BirtaanJabin]

@DalJecel

fock your so called fake ass proof, i wipe my caghdeer ass with your proof created by a hawadle guy anti Og on twitter during the last elections when cagjar was picking governor,

i shit on your focking proof, get the fock out of here with your fake shit,

anyone can make shit up, even cali duux the dhulbahante poet was talking about Dollo being a Makahil region in his famous poems in 1880s

why is it you never had controlled all these regions yuo speak off before?

why did a less sophisticated clan like garre or dagodia or ciise get beaten by MJ a so called sophisticated clan politically and were robbed when garre and ciise and dagodi controlled their regions? yet you lost it though your majority?

your embarrassing your own people warya,

boast if you want, paste fake shit crap created on twitter, it will not give you control of the gobal where makahil are majority,

warya pipe down and know your limits, cagjar has made you brave for a few seconds then he swiped the carpet off your feet,

oh i love you dont know the region shit, warya my dad was a governor of a degmo in Qoraxey and his cousin was a reer dalal reer cabdulle former president every OG knows in this forum,

You have energy to rant

this isnt qoraxey
Nor do i care about ur dad or his cousin

state The 5/6 degmos

 

[Farjano-Walad]

Simply answer

what 5 degmo is majority makahil

will u claim Galaadi
Will u claim Galxamur
Will u claim Bookh

thats 3nearly exclusively MJ degmos

warya, yuo fail to udneratnd my entire claim warya,

the entire Dollo is Makahil, i gave yuo a little scrap of 1 demgo shared by OG and Mj and other yar yar

your claiming an entire degmo, kneegrow i am telling you are a Marti, a guest, your under my mercy,

the entire Dollo is makahil playground, has produced every governor and sub govenor until cagjar tried to play pro somali shit card,

the land is called Ogadeniya warya


hate it or like it, i am telling you that you are a marti,

i piss on cagjar and and his fake somali pro somali crad,

my brother died for Ogadeniya warya, do yuo think i will sit here and play ncie and give a non Absame the right to the land?

warya my reer from my second awow down alone has lost 26 young men, first cousins, uncles, real uncles and 1 older brother,

the land is called Ogadeniya and your a marti, that is my premises, yet you stand here fluffing about your rights, i piss on your rights, your a marti,

now behave and sit nicely or be deported back to puntland,

fock your somalinimo

fight for the land and lose a brother and first cousins and real laxmi uncles, then we will talk,

until then a land is owned by a man who dies for it, so much did i fought for it adis abab has placed no Non OG can become president or regional governors owned by OG

 

[BirtaanJabin]

warya, yuo fail to udneratnd my entire claim warya,

the entire Dollo is Makahil, i gave yuo a little scrap of 1 demgo shared by OG and Mj and other yar yar

your claiming an entire degmo, kneegrow i am telling you are a Marti, a guest, your under my mercy,

the entire Dollo is makahil playground, has produced every governor and sub govenor until cagjar tried to play pro somali shit card,

the land is called Ogadeniya warya


hate it or like it, i am telling you that you are a marti,

i piss on cagjar and and his fake somali pro somali crad,

my brother died for Ogadeniya warya, do yuo think i will sit here and play ncie and give a non Absame the right to the land?

warya my reer from my second awow down alone has lost 26 young men, first cousins, uncles, real uncles and 1 older brother,

the land is called Ogadeniya and your a marti, that is my premises, yet you stand here fluffing about your rights, i piss on your rights, your a marti,

now behave and sit nicely or be deported back to puntland,

fock your somalinimo

fight for the land and lose a brother and first cousins and real laxmi uncles, then we will talk,

until then a land is owned by a man who dies for it, so much did i fought for it adis abab has placed no Non OG can become president or regional governors owned by OG

Ive lost family too
For Galbeed
Shut the hell up u dumb ass

 

[Farjano-Walad]

Ive lost family too
For Galbeed
Shut the hell up u dumb ass

really? what were they doing? horse racing? AUn to any geniune dead, but.....

No MJ has ever picked up weapons and fought back, come back to me when you create MJ Liberation Army for Ogadeniya

then we can talk,

and what is galbeed? some mountain peaks?

the land is called Ogadeniya old boys, now dont get rude, no need to insult brother, waa kaftan, i enjoy karbashing a faan booto booto dabyaco boowe ina adeer

 

[BirtaanJabin]

really? what were they doing? horse racing? AUn to any geniune dead, but.....

No MJ has ever picked up weapons and fought back, come back to me when you create MJ Liberation Army for Ogadeniya

then we can talk,

and what is galbeed? some mountain peaks?

the land is called Ogadeniya old boys, now dont get rude, no need to insult brother, waa kaftan, i enjoy karbashing a faan booto booto ******* boowe ina adeer

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There isnt a somali who hasnt lost family during the 77 wars

till u name ur degmos in doollo u cankeep ranting

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Here we go again, FKD messing up a nice topic.
It was nice while it lasted.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

There isnt a somali who hasnt lost family during the 77 wars

till u name ur degmos in doollo u cankeep ranting

and what owner tells a marti, a mere guest about what he owns?

Do i look like the type who will qualify himself to you warya?

what hotel owner talks to his hotel guests where the deed for the land is?

Agah

 

[Farjano-Walad]

thanks guys for ruining my economic challenge and discussing a much needed topic

bringing FKD doesn't help,

lets get back to economics or end this nonsense

 

[0117]

@Teeri-Alpha

Thank you for the insightful comments you've made.
I just have one question with regards to actual development that we as the diaspora can implement tomorrow.

Do you think Microfinance organisations that hand small loans (less than 500 dollars) to the impoverished without requiring collateral can have an impact on tackling poverty?. As in the loan is targeted towards those small shops/traders that you see on the streets of Somalia rather than the diaspora/wealthy you see exclusively applying for the grants that you can find on https://shuraako.org/ which isn't accessible for the majority of the population as they lack access to it and most importantly the necessary skills to complete an application in the first place.

It's not just the loan that's important but the business advice and services the organisation would provide.

 

[Xoriyo]

@Teeri-Alpha , would you consider reposting your voice notes please?

I'm a bit late to the party and would love to hear both sides of the argument.

@DR OSMAN , have to say that I'm pleasantly surprised. You have a nice speaking voice and you've made some really good points.

We need more of this and less of the qabil talk.

 

[Sol]

@Teeri-Alpha , would you consider reposting your voice notes please?

I'm a bit late to the party and would love to hear both sides of the argument.

@DR OSMAN , have to say that I'm pleasantly surprised. You have a nice speaking voice and you've made some really good points.

We need more of this and less of the qabil talk.

Was going so well before it turned into the usual qabiil fdk.

 

[abdullah233]

These people are voting @Teeri-Alpha before the DR even responded, this shows you, the stacks and odds is always against the doctor before I even present my case, but this is natural, I am landheere Bah Dubays, Osman Mahmoud, I expect the stacks to be against me by the masses.

Lets talk economics Teeri. Somalia being a developing country, do u think it's wise, u allow a free market to abuse them in they're own country? how is this going to effect taxation revenue? nearly half of America budget and most countries come from individual tax payers incomes at work, if you not putting in place regulations to ensure they are paid according to the market wages in they're city, this will lead to a huge loss in govt revenue for any government.

Isn't it better having 1 million taxpayers then a few high end corporations paying a corporate tax every quarter to the government and paying the employees peanuts? this is against my advice for PL government and I urge them to follow a socialist economic model, to put worker interest first before allowing a free market to just happen. A free market will lead to financial slavery, especially if it doesn't fear fines and suspended business licenses.

I urge Puntites to wage certify your sectors with award wages across the economy and ratify this through parliament as a legislation and law, if puntites want to increase they're government revenue so more services can be delivered to the public, it is mandatory we ask companies to pay workers a living wage rates. I say gouge each city cost of living and house prices and ensure no industry in PL pays below this or else it will not be attractive for locals to work if they can't cover they're bare essentials and it's not good for the government either to lose such a large portion of potential taxpayers. A government main duty is to add taxpayers to the economy, the more that join the economy, the more revenues the government has, the less that join, the more it will be reliant on loans and interests.

If someone lives in Qardho and the house price is 20k, the minimum wage should be reflecting house prices, the housing rent you pay each month shouldn't exceed 30% of your salary, 70% should be left to consumer spending and generating growth for small businesses.

Imagine that abstractly for one second. Imagine a puntite in bosaso, garowe, galkacyo, qardho, burtline, eyl, bayla, garacad were paid according to house price costs, this will lead to a boom in construction as they will build new homes. Eventually every individual will have a house because the wages reflect what the true cost of living is in they're area.

Come at me Teeri if you want me to explain this but it was the industrial revolution and unions that set regulations on industries and all of a sudden it lead to a surge in home owners and middle class, if we don't do this and promote corporate thuggery, we will not only be losing potentially millions of workers out of the economy, you will be reliant on stagnating corporate tax rate yearly which can't service the country need.

Why do you refer to yourself in the third person

 

[Shmurda]

The OP has a distractingly handsome voice.

Sheesh keep it in your pants

 

[Sophisticate]

Sheesh keep it in your pants

You need to stop coating the world through a wanton lens. Its just a descriptive statement.

A nice voice could mean a face for radio.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

@Teeri-Alpha , would you consider reposting your voice notes please?

I'm a bit late to the party and would love to hear both sides of the argument.

@DR OSMAN , have to say that I'm pleasantly surprised. You have a nice speaking voice and you've made some really good points.

We need more of this and less of the qabil talk.

i am so sorry for the late replying and sorry they were deleted, i keep them for a short while only,

i might answer the question about micro finance, listen to it as i will delete it about a day afterwards insha Allah

sorry bro/sister,

 

[Farjano-Walad]

By the way, i will answer econ questions like @Project_sushi asked but decided not to debate with the Dr due to silly qabil, i asked no qabil and the netire thread was killed

also the Dr i realised is a layman about economics, i wanted to educate him but he was jumping into a million and 1 different topics, was not sticking to one central theme, how to develop somalia, was all over the place, so i felt like i had to educate him and debate with him at the same time time, dont have time for that shyt,

so it was not worth my time,

but i will answer individual questions, i have already created answering econ questions 101 thread but sadly i delete the voice notes with in a day or 2

alternatively you can come and listen to my free podcast when i launch insha Allah in the coming months,

i will debate real economist that is worth my time, economist from Econ-Talk, professionals, no whiff whaff with layman who do not know about economise yet think they can debate me, ask me to educate you Dr osman, do not debate me if you do not know your economics,

, it will be fun,

 

[Jiron]

You guys are incredibly talented and a huge asset to the Somali people no doubt, I am just confused how youll be so smart but fail to see the destructive nature of qabyaalad. Please let it go and let’s all take part in building our nation.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

@Teeri-Alpha

Thank you for the insightful comments you've made.
I just have one question with regards to actual development that we as the diaspora can implement tomorrow.

Do you think Microfinance organisations that hand small loans (less than 500 dollars) to the impoverished without requiring collateral can have an impact on tackling poverty?. As in the loan is targeted towards those small shops/traders that you see on the streets of Somalia rather than the diaspora/wealthy you see exclusively applying for the grants that you can find on https://shuraako.org/ which isn't accessible for the majority of the population as they lack access to it and most importantly the necessary skills to complete an application in the first place.

It's not just the loan that's important but the business advice and services the organisation would provide.

sorry for the delay bro,


hope that helps, any more questions please let us know cheers,

 

[Farjano-Walad]

@RasCanjero bro open up your private messages, i want to send you that google drive link for the Forex lessons by adam khoo, he will go step by step and its for beginners,

@Rageedi same fro you too bro, message me bro, you and @RasCanjero have disabled private messages for some reason,

i want to keep to my promise, its several lessons, they cost about 5K if you want to buy it, adam khoo is the world's biggest educator, he has been trading since the 90s and his academy has trained hundreds of thousands, wa from Singaporean, i got this for my brother as i did not have the time to train him since he started uni, but he has mastered it,

here is a sample, no need to downloading anything, straight from the google drive,

adam is a really good teacher, the man charges a lot but worth it, he is very patient, and many of my friends and cousins have had the course as i did not have the time to do one on one training,

 

[Xoriyo]

i am so sorry for the late replying and sorry they were deleted, i keep them for a short while only,

i might answer the question about micro finance, listen to it as i will delete it about a day afterwards insha Allah

sorry bro/sister,

Thank you for coming back to me.

Enjoyed listening to your piece on micro financing.

You've raised valid concerns. Corruption is a massive issue in Somalia and if scholarships aren't safe, a pot of money will be an easy target for the many unscrupulous Somali 'officials '.

Continue the debate and keep us updated on your upcoming podcast please.

Can you please also send me the link for the forex lessons? Much appreciated.