But the thing is free market allways leads to corporatocracy. It's like the next evolution.
I CHALLENGE DR OSMAN TO AN ECONOMIC DEBATE ABOUT DEVELOPMENT
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These people are voting @Teeri-Alpha before the DR even responded, this shows you, the stacks and odds is always against the doctor before I even present my case, but this is natural, I am landheere Bah Dubays, Osman Mahmoud, I expect the stacks to be against me by the masses.
Lets talk economics Teeri. Somalia being a developing country, do u think it's wise, u allow a free market to abuse them in they're own country? how is this going to effect taxation revenue? nearly half of America budget and most countries come from individual tax payers incomes at work, if you not putting in place regulations to ensure they are paid according to the market wages in they're city, this will lead to a huge loss in govt revenue for any government.
Isn't it better having 1 million taxpayers then a few high end corporations paying a corporate tax every quarter to the government and paying the employees peanuts? this is against my advice for PL government and I urge them to follow a socialist economic model, to put worker interest first before allowing a free market to just happen. A free market will lead to financial slavery, especially if it doesn't fear fines and suspended business licenses.
I urge Puntites to wage certify your sectors with award wages across the economy and ratify this through parliament as a legislation and law, if puntites want to increase they're government revenue so more services can be delivered to the public, it is mandatory we ask companies to pay workers a living wage rates. I say gouge each city cost of living and house prices and ensure no industry in PL pays below this or else it will not be attractive for locals to work if they can't cover they're bare essentials and it's not good for the government either to lose such a large portion of potential taxpayers. A government main duty is to add taxpayers to the economy, the more that join the economy, the more revenues the government has, the less that join, the more it will be reliant on loans and interests.
If someone lives in Qardho and the house price is 20k, the minimum wage should be reflecting house prices, the housing rent you pay each month shouldn't exceed 30% of your salary, 70% should be left to consumer spending and generating growth for small businesses.
Imagine that abstractly for one second. Imagine a puntite in bosaso, garowe, galkacyo, qardho, burtline, eyl, bayla, garacad were paid according to house price costs, this will lead to a boom in construction as they will build new homes. Eventually every individual will have a house because the wages reflect what the true cost of living is in they're area.
Come at me Teeri if you want me to explain this but it was the industrial revolution and unions that set regulations on industries and all of a sudden it lead to a surge in home owners and middle class, if we don't do this and promote corporate thuggery, we will not only be losing potentially millions of workers out of the economy, you will be reliant on stagnating corporate tax rate yearly which can't service the country need.
Radical
Been there, done that
The idea of the free market increasing efficiency was true a few hundred years ago, when it was a new development, but it has changed a great deal over time, and now the (so-called) free market is the greatest barrier to development that there is. Tons and tons of perfectly good food are thrown away because it wouldn't be profitable to sell even while people starve, and the commodification of information has changed the development of technology into nothing more than a practice of making tiny development with the aim of being obsolete within years.
Free Market Capitalism structurally creates hierarchies and monopolies effectively making them authoritarian Imperialists and in the long run, Worsening the standard of living for the working class because they'll inevitably expand the number of underpaid and oppressed workers as it becomes necessary to export capital, Suicide Nets
Property owners hold all the leverage. Inequality begets inequality. Capital rules by authority of monopoly ownership.
The OP has a distractingly handsome voice. I assumed his elocultion would have been different. I expected he'd pronounce P as B.
Waryaa @Teeri-Alpha your paragraphs will never rival brofessoor @DR OSMAN's SSPot dissertations.
Shout out to our favourite Vegan-Marxist @Radical Canjeerorism. Preach your gospel about the evils of conspicuous consumption. These despotic capitalists are perpetuating an endless cycle of inequality. Egalitarianism should be the order of the day soo maha.
Waryaa @Teeri-Alpha your paragraphs will never rival brofessoor @DR OSMAN's SSPot dissertations.
Shout out to our favourite Vegan-Marxist @Radical Canjeerorism. Preach your gospel about the evils of conspicuous consumption. These despotic capitalists are perpetuating an endless cycle of inequality. Egalitarianism should be the order of the day soo maha.
The OP has a distractingly handsome voice. I assumed his elocultion would have been different. I expected he'd pronounce of P as B.
Waryaa @Teeri-Alpha your paragraphs will never rival brofessoor @DR OSMAN's SSPot dissertations.
Shout out to our favourite Vegan-Marxist @Radical Canjeerorism. Preach your gospel about the evils of conspicuous consumption. These despotic capitalists are perpetuating an endless cycle of inequality. Egalitarianism should be the order of the day soo maha.
The OP has a distractingly handsome voice. I assumed his elocultion would have been different. I expected he'd pronounce of P as B.
Waryaa @Teeri-Alpha your paragraphs will never rival brofessoor @DR OSMAN's SSPot dissertations.
Shout out to our favourite Vegan-Marxist @Radical Canjeerorism. Preach your gospel about the evils of conspicuous consumption. These despotic capitalists are perpetuating an endless cycle of inequality. Egalitarianism should be the order of the day soo maha.
In all honesty sophisticate if you want to develop your accent to become native, move to 'rural' areas in the western world not the major cities which is the first mistake refugees/immigrants do. They go to they're ethnic group neighborhood and develop a shitty twang immigrant accent of english. My accent developed isolated from the Somali and other ethnic group communities in urban areas, u will find your accent becomes native eventually. In other words @Sophisticate u will need to live among the hillbillies or white people and be born there, schooled there, your friends network need to be white, and eventually your accent is white.
Are you by any chance related to @Arma? You sound slightly similar. I actually expected you to be an adeer but I was thrown for a loop. Nothing is as it seems. I admit that you sound like quite the entertainer as well.
I'm sadly a native speaker of English that lacks a flavourful twang.
Its very borning.
Where is the coward @Teeri-Alpha who doesn't understand the main taxation revenues for a government is from
1. Individual employee income tax. This should be half your yearly financial budget stream
2. Corporate and Business taxes. This should be roughly 30% of your overall budget
3. Property, Sales, Infrastructure tax(ports, airports, roads) should account for 20% of your financial budget.
By simplifying a govt budget, it's critical to create jobs and turn peasants into middle class home owners and to do this requires a quick gouge of different city living costs(rural and urban) and begin mandating to corporations that industries that pay less then what is cost of living and also towards our housing boom vision among the peasants is unacceptable. A govt that ensures it's locals invest in a home, spend monthly on market goods will drive growth all round for business people and locals and drive our budget up to the point aid/loans will no longer be required.
You don't have an economic vision of how u will shift people who live on 1 dollar a day into income brackets of at least $1000 dollars a month for rural cities and at least 2k for urban cities. U need to implement a minimum wage law based on that because if your paid 1k a month and spend 20 years working in a rural city u will be able to pay off a mortgage and become a home owner after 20 years like most nations.
In the urban areas obviously due to more diaspora and international money flowing around, prices are higher and land is double what is rural so up the industry award wage to $2000 as the bare minimum wage this will mean the average house is 40-50k and they can spend 20 years servicing that investment while driving consumer spending on the market place.
I am sick of your natural resource route to build an economy, New Zealand has no natural resources and built a self sufficient country through good economic vision, strict regulations, and good governance. It created a pool of labour supply that is attractive to investors who do not feel they're investment will be disrupted by lack of skills.
Come on Somalis vote for the DR plan or vote Teeri plan.
1. Individual employee income tax. This should be half your yearly financial budget stream
2. Corporate and Business taxes. This should be roughly 30% of your overall budget
3. Property, Sales, Infrastructure tax(ports, airports, roads) should account for 20% of your financial budget.
By simplifying a govt budget, it's critical to create jobs and turn peasants into middle class home owners and to do this requires a quick gouge of different city living costs(rural and urban) and begin mandating to corporations that industries that pay less then what is cost of living and also towards our housing boom vision among the peasants is unacceptable. A govt that ensures it's locals invest in a home, spend monthly on market goods will drive growth all round for business people and locals and drive our budget up to the point aid/loans will no longer be required.
You don't have an economic vision of how u will shift people who live on 1 dollar a day into income brackets of at least $1000 dollars a month for rural cities and at least 2k for urban cities. U need to implement a minimum wage law based on that because if your paid 1k a month and spend 20 years working in a rural city u will be able to pay off a mortgage and become a home owner after 20 years like most nations.
In the urban areas obviously due to more diaspora and international money flowing around, prices are higher and land is double what is rural so up the industry award wage to $2000 as the bare minimum wage this will mean the average house is 40-50k and they can spend 20 years servicing that investment while driving consumer spending on the market place.
I am sick of your natural resource route to build an economy, New Zealand has no natural resources and built a self sufficient country through good economic vision, strict regulations, and good governance. It created a pool of labour supply that is attractive to investors who do not feel they're investment will be disrupted by lack of skills.
Come on Somalis vote for the DR plan or vote Teeri plan.
Radical
Been there, done that
Is this you being humble? I haven't forgotten about that poem.I'm sadly a native speaker of English that lacks a flavourful twang.
This topic is underrated 
Mashallah, both of you are very intelligent with nice voices, keep it up. I wish you'd have a podcast series together discussing Somali economics, politics etc, It would be amazing.
Mashallah, both of you are very intelligent with nice voices, keep it up. I wish you'd have a podcast series together discussing Somali economics, politics etc, It would be amazing.LOl,
Dr i know your poking me looking for a fight, Dollo has always been under Ogaden DDS hands and still controlled by a Makahil Ogaden Governor, always under our hands, the 10,000 rifles the British gave to the isaaqs failed to help them take any land from us, we are like the Russians, you can invade but you will not succeed, as we will fight back and karbash enemies,
Absame are good fighters, I have NEVER Alhamdulilah lost an inch of land to either the 50 million Oromo or to Somalis, to any of my neighbours,
many brave Absame/ Ogaden boys have died defending the land called Ogadeniya from losing land to surrounding tribes,
anyways lets stick to economics, remember no insults, no Qabiil and no swearing,
you keep taking a dig at things outside of economics, please stick to economics,
I am trying to do that actually bro, where me and him talk and chat rather than going back and forth with independent voice notes as it becomes all over the place
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