I’m starting to feel skeptical towards Islam.

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  1. NA9

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    To me it just feels like a form of Arab supremacy; forcing us to pray in Arabic, read in Arabic, say Duas in Arabic and go to an Arab country (Saudi) as part of our deen. Even the traditional Islamic clothes that we wear are influenced by Arab culture. Our names are mostly also Arabic. Most of the medicine prescriped as Sunnah is just traditional arab medicine. The most perfect man to ever walk this Earth, our Prophet (SAW) was an Arab. Although I love some of the values of Islam.... wallah I’m starting to feel skeptical. Religion is too interlinked with race; so even if we don’t mean to, we are, in a way, subconsciously looking up to/idolising Arabs. And if we had been trading partners with Europe, we would have been following Christianity. Religion is political.
     
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  2. EmperorHeir

    EmperorHeir Gadabuursi ha nool

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    Calm down mate. We Somalis need to be more open minded in things. It's called tolerance. Acting like this will just prove to the world we are savages. Let them have an opinion! This isn't 3000bc. Personally me, I'm a Muslim. But if Somalis want to be atheist, let them. Don't kill them. Otherwise we are just like the Europeans 1000 years ago who would kill a person if he wasn't Christian which will show how backwards we are.



    Somalia should have free speech.
     
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  3. Halimo-2018

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    I agree with the names. its good that you can separate culture from religion but dont lose your deen because people adapt arab names and cultures. thats why God gave us brain. there are christian arabs who wear abayas and thobes doesn't make them any less of a christian. At end of the day most people will follow the crowd now that left somalia we're expose to different religions or lack of is when the real questions happens some people leave islam others become more religious. you're not the first or the last for sure.best of wishes
     
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  4. Blade1

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    Well tbh in islam it doenst say to follow Arab clothes all it says is to cover up certain parts of our body for each gender. Secondly the Arab names are just influential figures we name our children after put of respect and for them to grow up to be like them and this happens all over the world be it influential leaders or religious leaders where once again in islam there is no quran ayah or hadith that says we need a Arab name.
    Somone can correct me if I'm wrong but I think the only prophet we know which was Arab was only muhammad s.a.w.
    And lastly all of us here can speak 2, 3 and more languages here and we know how you can never 100% fully translate one language to the other no matter how many interpretation you do its best understood in its original language and if it was changed to suit each other languages the quran. Then the meanings and how it's understood would change and people will try to make it fit to their own life and the meaning will change.
    Lastly if we were closer to Europe that would not influence us to be Christians since the oldest Christian state is our neighbours and Christianity arrived to Europe not as early as people assume.
     
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  5. heli

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    soft power . would be a perfect weapon to use .
     
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  6. NA9

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    I dont know why it took me so long to realise but it really serves as just a form of arab soft power
     
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  7. Sakandari

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    Islam upholds the inherent equality of tribes, races, and ethnicities. The only quality that makes one better than another is righteousness.
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    Muslims should adhere only to the clear, explicit language of the Quran and Sunnah expressing the equality of all people and the virtues by which any human being can become righteous.
     
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  8. guntiino101

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    I get where you're coming from, but I don't think it has anything to do with Islam, but it's because of Arabs themselves- Saudi Arabians to be exact. We need to stop following them!
    Other Muslim communities are independent, why can't Somalis be like that:mjcry:
     
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  9. Sidi Dirir

    Sidi Dirir audhu bikalimatillahi tammati min sharri ma khalaq

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    What is this calacal walal? Arabs don't own islam,Arabic is the language Quran was revealed in because the prophet was Arab. Many prophets preceded nabi Mohammed and none of them were Arabs. The Arabic traditions were idol worshipping, burying children alive non of which are part of Islam

    Don't let your dislike for Arabs cloud your judgment Islam is bigger than any one group.
     
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  10. government

    government زومالي و افتخر

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    Only 4 prophets were Arab
     
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  11. Apollo

    Apollo Useful idiot Staff Member Moderator

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    Christianity is the most ethnically neutral of the main Abrahamic faiths. It allows for native cultures to survive.

    Judaism is extremely linked to Jews, they claim to be the chosen people etc.. The Torah is extremely racist (gentiles/goys are slaves for the Jews).

    Islam is also too ethnocentric by forcing people to pray in Arabic and making Arabic a holy language. Also, it tends to kill native culture and replace it with Arab culture.
     
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  12. Halimo-2018

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    we can pray in any language. Arabic is used because of the quran. arabic is no more hollier than any other language it just happenss to be the language of quran. All languages belong to God.
     
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    government زومالي و افتخر

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    What do you mean by pray we can only preform salah In Arabic however you can make dua in any language.
     
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  14. Halimo-2018

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    we do have our own culture. we are proud of culture. I don't know about the diaspora though I am bit worried for us.
     
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    Apollo Useful idiot Staff Member Moderator

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    All the mainstream sects pray in Arabic and the call to prayer is in Arabic.

    Imagine if Christianity forced people to pray in Hebrew/Aramaic and blasted out Hebrew/Aramaic calls to prayer out of church towers? It would look extremely cringy.
     
  16. Halimo-2018

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    Dua is prayer as well...if you mean salat praying in repetative arabic prayers+ quran is required its not like we have to speak fluent arabic etc. however when someone is new to islam until they learn those specific prayers it is ok if they decide to pray in what ever language they know. simple.
     
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  17. Sidi Dirir

    Sidi Dirir audhu bikalimatillahi tammati min sharri ma khalaq

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    Performing salah in Arabic limits division and less confusion, and has never been an issue for majority of Muslims from many different backgrounds, 2 Muslims from different background can pray together with no problems, imagine if every group prayed in their language ?
     
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  18. NA9

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    Actually I dont think im doubting Islam as a RELIGION... im doubting the culture associated with it
     
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  19. Apollo

    Apollo Useful idiot Staff Member Moderator

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    It's soft Arab supremacy.
     
  20. Sidi Dirir

    Sidi Dirir audhu bikalimatillahi tammati min sharri ma khalaq

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    Subjective, I'll bet on billions of other Muslims that differ contrary to your assumption.
     
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