DEVELOPING NEWS HSM Gov Offensive against Al-Shabab : Thread

[Dowlad]

Murusade are terrorist. You can’t fix khawarij salafis, only bombs can fix that disease don’t be naive bro

Don't forget the role they played in Badbaado Qaran. They are our brothers, let us stay united. Without Murusade support Al-shabab will give us a harder time. Inshallah Murusade, Duduble and others will rise with us.

 

[Dowlad]

Aren't they your brothers or something?

Yes they are but Murusade need to mobilise against Al-shabab. They need to take this opportunity and do it for themseles. There is no university or school in Ceelbuur. Murusade must fight to survive

 

[bidenkulaha]

Aren't they your brothers or something?

the one’s in Xamar are alright i guess, galgaduud are khawarij.

although niggas tried to kill my mum in Howlwadaag and Hodan back in the 90s reer hyena are prickly like y’all. No wonder Kheyre and Farmaajo were perfect fit

 

[NinWero]

Latest from the Hiiraan front; heavy fighting with over 20 causalities Fighting still on, with both sides getting reinforcement.

 

[Jungle]

I listened to some xl militia this morning complaining how gugundhabe isnt helping lol. Maxaas is literally the only district exclusively inhabited by them. Bulo burte is a joint effort. Imagine not giving people their rights in the region, af lagaado and then moan how they're not in the fight with you lol

 

[bidenkulaha]

I listened to some xl militia this morning complaining how gugundhabe isnt helping lol. Maxaas is literally the only district exclusively inhabited by them. Bulo burte is a joint effort. Imagine not giving people their rights in the region, af lagaado and then moan how they're not in the fight with you lol

If you’re not gonna fight to liberate it then why should you get representation lol. Ninka gulka ka dagaalamo ayaa xaq uleh kursiga.

It reminds me of this GM parliament building where we handed out MPs to Murusade like confetti yet they haven’t got a single liberated deegaan.

The worst part is all these ppl will flee Shabaab lands and sit in camps in other ppls lands begging for food when they could’ve liberated their lands.

 

[Jungle]

If you’re not gonna fight to liberate it then why should you get representation lol. Ninka gulka ka dagaalamo ayaa xaq uleh kursiga.

It reminds me of this GM parliament building where we handed out MPs to Murusade like confetti yet they haven’t got a single liberated deegaan.

The worst part is all these ppl will flee Shabaab lands and sit in camps in other ppls lands begging for food when they could’ve liberated their lands.

I meant maxaas is all xawaadle bordering galgaduud and northern middle shabelle. No gugundhabe anywhere close to there so why expect them to help out? XL take all the hub and positions in hiraan region. Basically what abgaal cismaan do to them on a larger scale in Hirshabelle but we wouldn't call for xl to help out anywhere in M. Shabelle. Shameless people.

 

[NinWero]

I meant maxaas is all xawaadle bordering galgaduud and northern middle shabelle. No gugundhabe anywhere close to there so why expect them to help out? XL take all the hub and positions in hiraan region. Basically what abgaal cismaan do to them on a larger scale in Hirshabelle but we wouldn't call for xl to help out anywhere in M. Shabelle. Shameless people.

fighting Al-Shabab shouldn't be left to one qabil. Al shabab have experienced fighters and commanders who have been fighting for the last 15 years, and now you expect a group of guys with macawis to fight them by them selfs?

Don't forget, It took Amisom plus the Somali army to push Alshabab out of Banadir.

Tomorrow when Al Shabab is finished with XL they will come after gugundhabe.

 

[bidenkulaha]

fighting Al-Shabab shouldn't be left to one qabil. Al shabab have experienced fighters and commanders who have been fighting for the last 15 years, and now you expect a group of guys with macawis to fight them by them selfs?

Don't forget, It took Amisom plus the Somali army to push Alshabab out of Banadir.

Tomorrow when Al Shabab is finished with XL they will come after gugundhabe.

You can’t seriously be comparing the Shabaab of 2011 to now. They are terribly weak today. The SNA plus the people who live in the deegaan if they decide to fight them should be enough. Every man should liberate his land and the government should provide ammunition, supply lines and soldiers to help direct them.

Cayr in Shabaab’s ‘peak’ chased them out of Ceelbuur before Murusade turned it into a qabiil war. Now imagine today.

 

[Prince of HS]

I meant maxaas is all xawaadle bordering galgaduud and northern middle shabelle. No gugundhabe anywhere close to there so why expect them to help out? XL take all the hub and positions in hiraan region. Basically what abgaal cismaan do to them on a larger scale in Hirshabelle but we wouldn't call for xl to help out anywhere in M. Shabelle. Shameless people.

They treat the noble gugundhabe like trash and expect them to help liberate a deegan they don’t even live in . Doesn’t make sense

 

[NinWero]

You can’t seriously be comparing the Shabaab of 2011 to now. They are terribly weak today. The SNA plus the people who live in the deegaan if they decide to fight them should be enough. Every man should liberate his land and the government should provide ammunition, supply lines and soldiers to help direct them.

Cayr in Shabaab’s ‘peak’ chased them out of Ceelbuur before Murusade turned it into a qabiil war. Now imagine today.

There's no single Qabil that can defeat Al Shabab, none. They might get defeated for a few years or months but they will eventually be back as is the case everywhere in Somalia.
If XL defeat Alshabab they will just leave and go to another place where take over, regroup and come back after a few years.

The only to defeat them is to coordinate with each other, so everyone knows what's going on and they can't run off to the next tuulo.

For your information, Cayr have always had a big presence in Alshabab with many of their leaders being Cayr. While Murusade would rather be under Alshabab so they don't lose land to other qabils, than actually fight them.

 

[bidenkulaha]

Kulaha Shabaab aa dad ka keensato Guriceel iyo Ceeldheer. At least make it look realistic

 

[bidenkulaha]

There's no single Qabil that can defeat Al Shabab, none. They might get defeated for a few years or months but they will eventually be back as is the case everywhere in Somalia.
If XL defeat Alshabab they will just leave and go to another place where take over, regroup and come back after a few years.

The only to defeat them is to coordinate with each other, so everyone knows what's going on and they can't run off to the next tuulo.

For your information, Cayr have always had a big presence in Alshabab with many of their leaders being Cayr. While Murusade would rather be under Alshabab so they don't lose land to other qabils, than actually fight them.

Nah the government if they have any competence to them, after liberating the deegaan will train up the deegaan citizens as police and recruit them to defend it. Also set up a council/degmo that they vote for so the ppl there aren’t disenfranchised and control their affairs.

Also create a few bases near every degmo where the soldiers stay in their xero, none of this ‘I’m gonna move these soldiers here today cos I need them there’. No where in the world is this practiced.

Each qabiil can liberate their lands with the SNA’s support. It’s just many qabiils outright prefer Shabaab

 

[Jungle]

They treat the noble gugundhabe like trash and expect them to help liberate a deegan they don’t even live in . Doesn’t make sense

This is why I have no respect for them. They treat gugundhabe/ gaaljecel like shit. If they could get rid of all of them they would.

'laf kaa weyn waa ku jibiisa'

They get the same exact treatment from us in middle shabelle and banaadir. 2 qori loomo ogolo. At least gugundhabe are armed in Hiraan and GJ in middle shabelle.

 

[NinWero]

This is why I have no respect for them. They treat gugundhabe/ gaaljecel like shit. If they could get rid of all of them they would.

'laf kaa weyn waa ku jibiisa'

They get the same exact treatment from us in middle shabelle and banaadir. 2 qori loomo ogolo. At least gugundhabe are armed in Hiraan and GJ in middle shabelle.

This is Abgaal fantasy. I don't think XL treat Gungunabe or Gaaljecel badly, but there is competition between them, whereby XL claims all of Hiiraan exclusively to them, which everyone knows is not the case.

The Abgaal propaganda is not going to fly with everyone.

 

[Prince of HS]

This is Abgaal fantasy. I don't think XL treat Gungunabe or Gaaljecel badly, but there is competition between them, whereby XL claims all of Hiiraan exclusively to them, which everyone knows is not the case.

The Abgaal propaganda is not going to fly with everyone.

yes they do. they bully the non xl clans in hiraan. take gj as good example. galjecel are armed and get along with abg in s/dhexe laakin they are suppressed in hiraan even though they are much larger over there. Next president of HS most likely Gj or another gungunabe.

 

[Jungle]

This is Abgaal fantasy. I don't think XL treat Gungunabe or Gaaljecel badly, but there is competition between them, whereby XL claims all of Hiiraan exclusively to them, which everyone knows is not the case.

The Abgaal propaganda is not going to fly with everyone.

What propaganda? They live Jowhar baadiyi, small number in Balcad baadiyo and Medina.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/clearing-out-medina-muqdisho.124051/#post-3127135

Check the interview in that thread by a ex hirshabelle mp over their treatment in Banaadir

Furthermore adiga ya tahay?

 

[NinWero]

yes they do. they bully the non xl clans in hiraan. take gj as good example. galjecel are armed and get along with abg in s/dhexe laakin they are suppressed in hiraan even though they are much larger over there. Next president of HS most likely Gj or another gungunabe.

No one is suppressed this is just propaganda by Abgaals, I know the situation quite well.

The reality is hirshabelle was poorly designed, how did such a large and iconic magaalo like Beledweyn not get the capital? It was all due to Abgaal influence and wanting to dominate Hirshabelle.

 

[Prince of HS]

No one is suppressed this is just propaganda by Abgaals, I know the situation quite well.

The reality is hirshabelle was poorly designed, how did such a large and iconic magaalo like Beledweyn not get the capital? It was all due to Abgaal influence and wanting to dominate Hirshabelle.

let me just say xl should be happy that abg are spread out in two states and the capital and that they are dealing with only one laf.

 

[NinWero]

let me just say xl should be happy that abg are spread out in two states and the capital and that they are dealing with only one laf.

The problem with Abgaal is that their selfish, they don't like to share anything, maybe except Wacesle. You took the capital of Hirshabelle and presidency while you are the duqa magalada Mogadishu.