Harar under Siege like its the middle ages

[Abba Sadacha]

Lol they already claim Hargesia and Berbera as originally being Oromo cities. When I say they claim the histories of people they assimilate this is what I'm talking about, they use the assimilated Somalis in their number to claim Somali cities.

BULLSHIT, most oromos would never claim hargeisa or berbera. all land disputes between us oromos and somalis is WITHIN ETHIOPIA-NOT outside of it.
and this is due to many factors-one of them being, that, many of the clans on the 1,000KM border between us, are mixed/bi-lingual, and can flip flop.

 

[Abba Sadacha]

BTW-guys, somalis, don't you always brag and boast, about having Africa's longest coast-line, and having the most land per ethnicity, and how you conquered lands from us oromos and some others?
then when it happens to you, *ALLEGEDLY**, you cry foul?
Is that not a bit hypocritical?? Have we not all lost lands to each other? have we not all experienced both victories/and losses, over each other?? is this not the history of mankind, where-ever you go?!

 

[Sleepy Hollow]

BULLSHIT, most oromos would never claim hargeisa or berbera. all land disputes between us oromos and somalis is WITHIN ETHIOPIA-NOT outside of it.
and this is due to many factors-one of them being, that, many of the clans on the 1,000KM border between us, are mixed/bi-lingual, and can flip flop.

There's actual video evidence in this thread

 

[Karim]

@Factz where did you get this notion that Adal Sultanate established by Imam Ahmed Gurey was ever a Dir sultanate?!! You got no sources my boy.
The only authentic source of Ahmed Gurey's conquests is Book Futuh Al Habesha. I've got the original text in Arabic in my PC. The book is 130 pages long and not a single Dir sub clan or the name Dir is mentioned in the book, while the author mentions Darood sub clans such as Gari, Xarla koombe and Mareexaan and their Sultan "Xiraabu حرابو" Several times and how they made the bulk of his army.
The author has also narrated how one Somali clan "Habar Magadle" refused to pay Zakat and how they started pillaging and looting others until Imam Ahmed himself subjugated them and forced them to pay Zakat and obey his rule.
Source: Future Al Habesha page 13/130.

 

[Abba Sadacha]

There's actual video evidence in this thread

a video of what? the majority of 40 million oromos, saying that hargiesa and berbera are theirs?
i very much doubt that!

 

[Karim]

@Crow @Abdalla @Yonis @Thegoodshepherd @Sheikh @nine @JONB @TekNiKo @Shaolin23 @Armadillo @Cognitivedissonance
The original pirates of Somalis were Habar Magadle (Habar Awal/Garxajis) KKKkk looting and pillaging since the 16th century

 

[James Dahl]

Ah

I'm no expert in somali history although i'm 100% sure Axmed Gurey was 100% Mursal Karanle
''Iman Ahmed Ibrahim Gurey of was Karanle (Murusade) ''

Source: http://karanle.blogspot.com/2014/03/karanles-hidden-political-historical.html


Also @Factz you have to understand @embarassing isn't a qabilist at all she is the complete opposite of me so don't slander her by saying 'her true qabilist colours' are showing

Axmed Gurey was not Mursal Karanle he was Baalow Seexawle Karanle as were the Garaads of Hobat.
There are three main clans of Karanle, Waadeerle (father of Mursal), Seexawle and Gidir Karanle. Gidir is the mothers clan of the Habar Gidir her name was Raaray.

Only Murusade travelled to Somalia all the other Karanle clans still live near Harar. Most Karanle these days have been adopted into Oromo as discussed upthread, there are a lot more Karanle than people think, a big percentage of Hararghe "Oromo" are Karanle.

 

[Karim]

Ah


Axmed Gurey was not Mursal Karanle he was Baalow Seexawle Karanle as were the Garaads of Hobat

He is from Hobat but not a single source says that he is Karanle. Not a single one.
He's Marehan if he's Somali since Nur ibn Mujahid (a Merahan) married his widow and became his successor.

 

[Factz]

@Factz where did you get this notion that Adal Sultanate established by Imam Ahmed Gurey was ever a Dir sultanate?!! You got no sources my boy.
The only authentic source of Ahmed Gurey's conquests is Book Futuh Al Habesha. I've got the original text in Arabic in my PC. The book is 130 pages long and not a single Dir sub clan or the name Dir is mentioned in the book, while the author mentions Darood sub clans such as Gari, Xarla koombe and Mareexaan and their Sultan "Xiraabu حرابو" Several times and how they made the bulk of his army.
The author has also narrated how one Somali clan "Habar Magadle" refused to pay Zakat and how they started pillaging and looting others until Imam Ahmed himself subjugated them and forced them to pay Zakat and obey his rule.
Source: Future Al Habesha page 13/130.
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He is from Hobat but not a single source says that he is Karanle. Not a single one.
He's Marehan if he's Somali since Nur ibn Mujahid (a Merahan) married his widow and became his successor.
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Your Darood revisionism is sad. @NourUgaas check this out.

Imam Ahmed Gurey was born in Zeila. According to Harar manuscripts he was Dir and Habar Magaadle/Isaaq were loyal Adalites. They didn't loot or damage anything. Major Isaaq cities were also major Adal Sultanate cities. Darood didn't rule anything. In fact, most daroods weren't even part of Adal Sultanate. You had Warsangali Sultanate and some nomads living further east undocumented.

Plus, I read Futuh Al Habasha and it never stated that so you're clearly lying.

As for Nur Ibn Mujahid, he was Harari. Who cares what some troll edited on Wikipedia says.

 

[anonymous34]

This arguments its getting boring nobody will be 100% sure . The nigga is dead fam

 

[Karim]

Your Darood revisionism is sad. @NourUgaas check this out.

Imam Ahmed Gurey was born in Zeila. According to Harar manuscripts he was Dir and Habar Magaadle/Isaaq were loyal Adalites. They didn't loot or damage anything. Major Isaaq cities were also major Adal Sultanate cities. Darood didn't rule anything. In fact, most daroods weren't part of Adal Sultanate. You had Warsangali Sultanate and lived further east undocumented.

As for Nur Ibn Mujahid, he's Harari. Who cares what some troll edited on Wikipedia says.

Futuh Al Habasha, a book written in 17th century exposed your history as piraters and looters... Read the Arabic text if you can actually read it or piss off.

 

[Factz]

Futuh Al Habasha, a book written in 17th century exposed your history as piraters and looters... Read the Arabic text if you can actually read it or piss off.
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Still doesn't prove anything. I need a documented source, link, the name of the historian and a reference. If you can't find anything then don't bother posting a ridiculous picture again because I read Futuh Al Habasha and it never mentioned anything like that so you're clearly a liar.

Plus, nothing here proves anything. What I stated was historically accurate and you can check my references in this thread. Don't want to repeat myself again.

 

[La Xawla]

Everyone claiming Ahmed gurey :siilaanyolaugh:

Dunno much about him but imma agree with @embarassing and @anonymous34 , he was Hawiye

Who wouldn’t claim “the Conqueror”? Plus, it gives you bonus FKD ammunition

 

[anonymous34]

Who wouldn’t claim “the Conqueror”? Plus, it gives you bonus FKD ammunition

I'm surprised as hell to hear he was dir
I'm not claiming him all i know is everyone around me knows he is karanle. Perhaps not mursal. Who cares about a dead man, none of us will ever say confidently what he was. Only he can or his associates and they are all dead. So factz and his side kick NourUgaas righting paragraphs is kkkk pathetic imo

 

[landheer]

Everyone claiming Ahmed gurey :siilaanyolaugh:

Dunno much about him but imma agree with @embarassing and @anonymous34 , he was Hawiye

Ahmed Gurey was a darood dhulbahante man.....Hawiye my ass.

 

[Suhaib]

Ahmed Gurey was a darood dhulbahante man.....Hawiye my ass.

Lol alright, I heard karanle, dir, warsangali and now Dhulo in just this thread smh

 

[anonymous34]

Lol alright, I heard karanle, dir, warsangali and now in just this thread smh

Dhulbahante are fucking nothing BTEC darood . They are isaaq people's men. Do you know how many dhulbahante chicks i know sucking HJ dick happily

 

[Karim]

Still doesn't prove anything. I need a documented source, link, the name of the historian and a reference. If you can't find anything then don't bother posting a ridiculous picture again because I read Futuh Al Habasha and it never mentioned anything like that so you're clearly a liar.

Plus, nothing here proves anything. What I stated was historically accurate and you can check my references in this thread. Don't want to repeat myself again.

You're really a deranged kid aren't you?! The original text of Futuh Al Habesha is in Arabic which is the one I posted. That's the screenshot I took from the book itself and it's not Some random picture genius.
Read the Original Arabic version of the book page 13/130 and it clearly reveals how Habar Magaadle refused to pay Zakat and how they started campaign of pillaging and looting other Muslim until Ahmed Gurey subjugated and forced them into submission.

 

[Karim]

Dhulbahante are fucking nothing BTEC darood . They are isaaq people's men. Do you know how many dhulbahante chicks i know sucking HJ dick happily

Please don't derail the thread

 

[landheer]

Lol alright, I heard karanle, dir, warsangali and now Dhulo in just this thread smh

his direct descendants are in the nalaye ahmed sub sub clan of dhulbahante.