First They Claim.................

[Jjero]

You clearly don't know enough of the difficulty of living in a country as xenophobic as somalia. YES. They joined a clan for survival.

True, i am not so sure who made it specifically, but its a fact they joined clans for protection.

I grew up in Somalia, I have seen myself how they get treated here. So why do you judge them for seeking protection against hate crime commited against them?
I understand completely why they seek protection.

 

[XoosBoos]

I realize these people don't know anything about somali history, let alone clans

Mhmm, many would’ve figured out. As in history many Galla’s from the Oromo and Ajuuran wars. They were captured and many were assimilated. Oromos claim many Somali clans. Especially Hawiyes in Babille. Where they include Hawiyes as a clan of Borentu Qallo Oromo. They do this with Gurgura Dirs who are assimilated by Oromos.

 

[Waxwaalan]

I grew up in Somalia, I have seen myself how they get treated here. So why do you judge them for seeking protection against hate crime commited against them?
I understand completely why.

You're completely missing the point. I don't care if they join any clans. That was for survival, i would've done the same.

I am merely pointing out that people like you think they're ethnic somalis and insist that is the truth.

I think we live in a time where they don't have to be sheegatos anymore.

 

[Luna]

They are Sab. Oromo admixed Somalis. Like Garre and many more. Thats where Af maay maay came.

I don't think it is that simple. May May falls under the Somali languages, not Oromo btw.
Sab Somali's might be the direct descendants of the Azanians another Cushitic group who lived in Southern Somalia in the past.

 

[Waxwaalan]

Mhmm, many would’ve figured out. As in history many Galla’s from the Oromo and Ajuuran wars. They were captured and many were assimilated. Oromos claim many Somali clans. Especially Hawiyes in Babille. Where they include Hawiyes as a clan of Borentu Qallo Oromo. They do this with Gurgura Dirs who are assimilated by Oromos.

But people die to claim they're full ethnic Somalis.

 

[Waxwaalan]

I don't think it is that simple. May May falls under the Somali languages, not Oromo btw.
Sab Somali's might be the direct descendants of the Azanians another Cushitic group who lived in Southern Somalia in the past.

May May has been proven to be a separate language from Somali, but it does have Somali influence. It is not a dialect.

 

[XoosBoos]

I don't think it is that simple. May May falls under the Somali languages, not Oromo btw.
Sab Somali's might be the direct descendants of the Azanians another Cushitic group who lived in Southern Somalia in the past.

Af maay maay got same spellings and vocub like Afaan oromo. Many Somali oromos speak Af maay maay as they can get fluent on it easy.

 

[Merca]

This forum makes people go crazy. I'm out

 

[Jjero]

You're completely missing the point. I don't care if they join any clans. That was for survival, i would've done the same.

I am merely pointing out that people like you think they're ethnic somalis and insist that is the truth.

I think we live in a time where they don't have to be sheegatos anymore.

When did I insist “on the truth”? Ma wareersantahay?

 

[Waxwaalan]

When did I insist “on the truth”? Ma wareersantahay?

You said they're somali. I never claimed they're not nationality somali, the point was ethnicity. So i assume you meant they're ethnically somali.

And you were implying I "judge" them for joining clans, which is not true.

 

[Luna]

May May has been proven to be a separate language from Somali, but it does have Somali influence. It is not a dialect.

It is a Somali language. Meaning it is spoken by Somali's. There are several Somali languages like Maxaa Tiri, Maay Maay, Tunni etc.

Af maay maay got same spellings and vocub like Afaan oromo. Many Somali oromos speak Af maay maay as they can get fluent on it easy.

Yes, but Sab's are Somali. Its spoken by Somali's therefore, it is a Somali language.

 

[Jjero]

You said they're somali. I never claimed they're not nationality somali, the point was ethnicity. So i assume you meant they're ethnically somali.

And you were implying I "judge" them for joining clans, which is not true.

They are Somali, Their tiny admixture doesn’t make them any less Somali.
You’re dumb. I’m not gonna argue someone who said “D&M is a clan made by Bantus”
Take your pills warya.

 

[Waxwaalan]

It is a Somali language. Meaning it is spoken by Somali's. There are several Somali languages like Maxaa Tiri, Maay Maay, Tunni etc.

Lets agree to disagree. "maxa tiri" is solely Somali, not a dialect. And the whole point i'm trying to prove is that the creators of May May do not have somali ancestry. May May is a mix of the language they spoke before they arrived in Somalia.

 

[Waxwaalan]

They are Somali, Their ptiny admixture doesn’t make them any less Somali.
You’re dumb. I’m not gonna argue someone who said “D&M is a clan made by Bantus”
Take your pills warya.

hoogay u truly lack a brain i think. i just said they're somali, NATIONALITY WISE. Who's judging their ancestry? Why is speaking on their heritage so sensitive to ya'll. And they are mostly bantu & oromo, not "tiny" admixture.

i can tell you've never actually done some research, so i'm out

 

[Luna]

Lets agree to disagree. "maxa tiri" is solely Somali, not a dialect. And the whole point i'm trying to prove is that the creators of May May do not have somali ancestry. May May is a mix of the language they spoke before they arrived in Somalia.

Are you a linguist???? You're not, so you don't get to decide any of this. Lol.
Typical Somali hard headedness
Another thing, who is a Somali and who gets to decide? We are a confederation of Cushitic peoples who speak at least 5 different related languages.
You are no more Somali than an Eelay or Tunni in Southern Somalia. Cut the bullshit.
You descend from an "Arab sheikh"
Technically, they're more Somali than you!

 

[Boqor]

Digil & Mirifile is definetly not Bantu, WTF Rahanweyne is a pure Somali clan, they don't have any Bantu in them. The Bantus that claim them are Sheegatos if anything.

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Sxb there are very few bantus living near the Xawadle tribe and the bantus most certainly do not claim them. The only minority that claims Xawadle are the Cad Cad Asharaf tribe, because they are very fragile in terms of population and are in need of political protection.

Whats her name?

 

[Waxwaalan]

Are you a linguist???? You're not, so you don't get to decide any of this. Lol.
Typical Somali hard headedness
Another thing, who is a Somali and who gets to decide? We are a confederation of Cushitic peoples who speak at least 5 different related languages.
You are no more Somali than an Eelay or Tunni in Southern Somalia. Cut the bullshit.
You descend from an "Arab sheikh"
Technically, they're more Somali than you!

so i am assuming you are the true "linguist" since you're telling me what is "right"?

if u actually did some research, you would find that a linguist has actually delved into this & demonstrated that they are two separate languages.

i get 2nd hand embarassment from losers like you acting smart. u got a lot of balls to be here with your brain

 

[Luna]

so i am assuming you are the true "linguist" since you're telling me what is "right"?

if u actually did some research, you would find that a linguist has actually delved into this & demonstrated that they are two separate languages.

i get 2nd hand embarassment from losers like you acting smart. u got a lot of balls to be here with your brain

Are you dumb? May May is spoken by Somali's making it a Somali language along with Maxaa Tiri. They are all Somali languages spoken by Somali people. There isn't just one. Read up on it instead of just pulling things out of your ass.
Fyi, I never said they were the same language. You must be drunk

Are you gonna address the last part about them not being Somali though? Who are you to decide that for them???

You descend from an Iraqi sheikh, nayaa. Don't front, we know you are not Gabooye.
Using this logic, you are not Somali but an Arab. Go back your roots, then.

You are appropriating Somali culture. Cosplaying as a Somali when you are really a Hamdani!
:siilaanyolaugh:

 

[Coulombs law]

Whats her name?

She is Muna Kay, a good looking Business women that was an MP in the Somali Government

 

[World]

i might get shit for this, but raxanweyn are a confederation of non somalis grouped together to build an alliance to survive amongst other somali clans.

digil & mirifle sub clan are specifically mostly bantu people. look them up.

i am aware some people will say some somalis are in raxanweyn, but i doubt their somali ancestry. most likely oromo.

How dare you insult Digil and Raxanweyn like that! They are 100 % Somali and form over 20 % of Somalia’s population. If anything, they are the lightest Somalis I’ve seen.

You don’t even know basic Somali clans, so why don’t you keep your ignorant mouth shut? I’m sick and tired of you stupid diasporas who don’t know f*ck all but love to talk.