First mention of "harari"

[Somali_patriotic]

How do hararis feel about that the first time their "ethnic" Identity was mentioned it was actually talking about a somali man

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Or were there older mentions than this?
The oldest description of the inhabitants of the city says they were somalis aswell.

 

[mohammdov]

What do you want from these poor people, who Melek killed half of their people in several days
Harar is not a race, but a group of races. They are the people who lived within the walls of Harar to protect against the Nomads around them.

 

[Khaemwaset]

What do you want from these poor people, who Melek killed half of their people in several days
Harar is not a race, but a group of races. They are the people who lived within the walls of Harar to protect against the Nomads around them.

Hararis are like Latinos. Just a bunch of mixed Horners including Somalis. Sadly been killed to basically extinction by the savage Abyssinians.

 

[Yami]

Another brutal blackpill for the Abyssinians. Hararghe is Somali

 

[Khaemwaset]

Another brutal blackpill for the Abyssinians. Hararghe is Somali

Is this even a question? Hararghe was Somali for basically the entire medieval period. The Oromo there are culturally and genetically Somali. Many oromo clans there still trace their lineage to Somalis and some in hararghe as just straight up Somalis.

They can't handle the fact somalis expanded into lands from the centre of Kenya up to the Abyssinian Highlands. We are expansive people and land. Let them cope.

 

[Somali_patriotic]

What do you want from these poor people, who Melek killed half of their people in several days
Harar is not a race, but a group of races. They are the people who lived within the walls of Harar to protect against the Nomads around them.

I got no problem with hararis, it's them who usually claim what's ours.
Ilahi ha u naxariisto dadka ka dhintay.
Also who do you mean by "nomads"? Only oromos oppressed hararis while we protected them nga

 

[Khaemwaset]

I got no problem with hararis, it's them who usually claim what's ours.
Ilahi ha u naxariisto dadka ka dhintay.
Also who do you mean by "nomads"? Only oromos oppressed hararis while we protected them nga

Broski forgot the walls of Harar built by a Somali Sultan after the fall of adal to keep out oromo tribesmen. The city only fell to Galla after the Abyssinians took over in the late 1800s.

 

[Three Moons]

Our Harari brothers and sisters are under siege, both culturally, and physically. In the past the city was bi-ethnic, with Somalis and Hararis being the majority, then steadily became tri-ethnic with the influx of Oromos. Then post-Menelik II, and his purge of the Somalis from Harar, it became a city inhabited mainly by Hararis, Oromos and Amharas. Today the latter two dominate and Hararis are outnumbered in their own city.

Let’s not delegitimise them as a people, cause unlike us they don’t have a vast homeland they can move to without losing their language and culture. Those Twitter threads targeting them don’t make sense to me.

To be honest it was our duty to free them from the highlanders, and we planned to do so in the 19th century with a 50 thousand man army after Menelik captured the city but wars with the European empires distracted us. Then we tried it in 77’ but were pushed back by the Soviet superpower.

And then we gave up al-together by distracting ourselves with petty issues.

 

[Khaemwaset]

Our Harari brothers and sisters are under siege, both culturally, and physically. In the past the city was bi-ethnic, with Somalis and Hararis being the majority, then steadily became tri-ethnic with the influx of Oromos. Then post-Menelik II, and his purge of the Somalis from Harar, it became a city inhabited mainly by Hararis, Oromos and Amharas. Today the latter two dominate and Hararis are outnumbered in their own city.

Let’s not delegitimise them as a people, cause unlike us they don’t have a vast homeland they can move to without losing their language and culture. Those Twitter threads targeting them don’t make sense to me.

To be honest it was our duty to free them from the highlanders, and we planned to do so in the 19th century with a 50 thousand man army after Menelik captured the city but wars with the European empires distracted us. Then we tried it in 77’ but were pushed back by the Soviet superpower.

And then we gave up al-together by distracting ourselves with petty issues.

Somalis are the protectors of all Muslims in the horn always. When the Habasha government Opressed Muslims, we somalis should've protected them. Leaving muslim land and people's under this Christian oppressor was the greatest mistake of the Somali people

 

[Internet Nomad]

Harar is our Israel and hararis are our jews we are America in this context.

We cannot let the chosen people die out

 

[Internet Nomad]

Somalis are the protectors of all Muslims in the horn always. When the Habasha government Opressed Muslims, we somalis should've protected them. Leaving muslim land and people's under this Christian oppressor was the greatest mistake of the Somali people

In somali history were the ever a sizeable christian community living within our lands? Like a dhimmi?

If the Adal war had succeeded i wonder how religious relations between the Muslim rulers and Christian minority would be like?

 

[Somali_patriotic]

Somalis are the protectors of all Muslims in the horn always. When the Habasha government Opressed Muslims, we somalis should've protected them. Leaving muslim land and people's under this Christian oppressor was the greatest mistake of the Somali people

Somalis had no chance with Christian Abyssinia who had European support
We actually planned to re-conquer harar with 50,000 man power but the Europeans blocked our supplies of arms and refused to let us buy firearms from them

 

[SamaaleCushite]

Somalis had no chance with Christian Abyssinia who had European support
We actually planned to re-conquer harar with 50,000 man power but the Europeans blocked our supplies of arms and refused to let us buy firearms from them

source for the claim "50,000 army"

 

[Khaemwaset]

source for the claim "50,000 army"

Was it Olol diinle or am I thinking of the wrong timer frame?

 

[SamaaleCushite]

Was it Olol diinle or am I thinking of the wrong timer frame?

no he had a 50,000 strong army it says but it doesnt say they wanted to liberate harar

 

[Somali_patriotic]

source for the claim "50,000 army"

 

[SamaaleCushite]

View attachment 303917

i saw this in a thread which i bookmarked but i dont see it anymore

 

[Zak12]

What were the exact demographics of Harar before the 19th century? I recall many Somalis used to live in the city

 

[Somali_patriotic]

What were the exact demographics of Harar before the 19th century? I recall many Somalis used to live in the city

Apparently the oldest description of the inhabitants of harar dates back to 1814 (19th century)

And somalis were cleaned out of the city in late 19th century
From being the majority to no one in the span of like 60 years

 

[Burqad]

How do hararis feel about that the first time their "ethnic" Identity was mentioned it was actually talking about a somali man View attachment 303898.
Or were there older mentions than this?
The oldest description of the inhabitants of the city says they were somalis aswell.

Why bully or be cruel to hararis? If they want all of (west) haraghe they should have it back, they’re better neighbors than oromo or Amhara.