Every single muslim is committing blasphemy against God

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  1. sigmund

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    what you showed me is rare becauee usually ehen these ex christians buddhists etc leave their religion they actually leave and dont look back while ex Muslims look back and complain every hour
     
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    Hybrid Death Awaits You

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    were you forced to follow strict Islamic laws such as wearing the hijab and praying by your parents ?
     
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    Dalmoor Vikings are shit. Bears know da wae.

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    ex Christians/jewish/hindu aren't often subjected to religious abuse by their parents
     
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  5. Steamdevolopment

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    No, my parents was of the more sufi persuasion and my apostasy has little to do with other people or upbringing but rather a change of perspective whereby I reviewed all claims presented critically without pre-judgement.
     
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  6. Omar del Sur

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    YOU are the blasphemer!

    You crazy woman.
     
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  7. Omar del Sur

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    Yet another mark against Sufis!
     
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    If you base your belief on the current scientific understanding then you are an atheist. You can't deny or believe in anything outside of what can be observed and tested through the scientific method. So you can't claim anything outside those parameters.

    Science and islam are not mutually exclusive. And scientific models always change when we find new evidence, so it is not an understanding of the reality, but our understanding of the reality with our limited intellectual capacity. And that innate capacity, to our understanding, is the biggest blockade to unraveling the truth about absolute reality. But we are getting in a weird direction. The universe is proving to be more refined, random and infinitely complex at the same time, when you study quantum mechanics. Scientist won't utter the words 'grand design', but their evidences are pointing in that direction. Also, the more we find new knowledge, the less we really understood things to begin with, like the wave/particle duality.
     
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    Omg, that “I hate Christianity” rant made my day! :cryinglaughsmiley::cryinglaughsmiley::cryinglaughsmiley::cryinglaughsmiley::cryinglaughsmiley::cryinglaughsmiley::cryinglaughsmiley::cryinglaughsmiley::cryinglaughsmiley:
     
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  10. Abdi-indhoyare

    Abdi-indhoyare I pledge allegiance to the bag | #Humanityfirst

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    That's because Islam is unique in that it is the only major world religion (to my knowledge) which considers apostasy worthy of capital punishment, if you accept the Hadiths that is. What other religion can prescribe the death penalty to someone for simply changing their mind? People can leave Christianity and Buddhism without a problem. They may get shunned by their families and communities (way worse for xMuslims though) but that's about it.

    Nah I think it definitely did. Islam civilised us. If you look back at African history, barring Ethiopia and the ancient North African civilisations, the only civilised Africans where the Muslim ones. Any noteworthy sub-Saharan African empire was either Islamic or significantly influenced by Islam. The Mali empire, Ghana empire, Kanem-Bornu and all the Somali sultanates and kingdoms. The other Africans who where untouched by Islam where still practicing voodoo, drinking blood and eating each other. If Somalis weren't converted to Islam we would have either fell under Abyssinian rule and become Christians or we would have been like those other langaab Cushitic/semi-Cushitic pagans living in the bush.
     
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  11. sigmund

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    someone who was a muslim believed in it knew of Allah and practiced it than suddenly decided to leave the religion and despise it and knowing well this individual will not convert back to the religion after three warnings don't deserve to live or eat of Allah provision because this individual is making a mockery out of Allah will most likely as all ex Muslims do open the doors to apostate and encourage it to people and spread ill hatred of Islam they are always doing mischief. Hence why Islam take this seriously there is always a wisdom behind everything.
     
  12. Bile Huruse

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    Warya take it easy. she most likely left islam for ideological reasons, so all that will fly over her head.
     
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    If the people complaining about islam 24/7 lived in saudi arabia that would be understandable but the fact all of them live in the west, where they can easily go about their lives without ever mentioning islam pionts to otherwise.
     
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    I highly doubt @Steamdevolopment understands half of the words she used.

    After all the jargon used, Steam still did not either make her point clear or actually prove how Muslims are committing blasphemy.

    An atheist that constantly rails about Islam is akin to an awoowe constantly complaining about a qabiil or race.

    Sad and pathetic.
     
  15. Abdi-indhoyare

    Abdi-indhoyare I pledge allegiance to the bag | #Humanityfirst

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    So if someone leaves Islam on the basis that they don't think it is TRUE (an intellectual reason), you give them three warnings to return or they will be killed because they don't deserve to live? Lmao why wouldn't ex-Muslims complain? That sounds absolutely ridiculous.
    I do agree with that point. There are some people in the West who do attempt to make careers of anti-Islam activism but it definitely isn't the majority. The vast majority of them keep it lowkey and for good reason... The main difference between ex-Christians and ex-Muslims in the West is that many Muslims come from immigrant backgrounds that are predominantly Islamic. If these people leave their religion then they will be ostracised from their own community while simultaneously not fully fitting in with the Western world. It's an entirely different dynamic. Most ex-Muslims do just move on with their lives though.
     
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    Abdi-indhoyare I pledge allegiance to the bag | #Humanityfirst

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    Also what happened to the ayah in Surah Al-Baqara which states that there is no compulsion in belief? How can you force someone to believe in something? These people will just disbelieve in private and grow to resent the religion in general. How can someone go to heaven if they just pretend to be Muslims? They may as well declare themselves non-Muslims.
     
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  17. sigmund

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    surat al baqarah refers to people who were already non muslim than yes compulsion in religion shouldn't happen it's completely different to a person who was a muslim than disbelieved... and the capital punishment of an apostate is declared on the one that utters it and makes it known wheras the one that hold that belief in his heart Allah will deal with that person and people will just regard that individual as muslim since he is concealing it
     
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    Abdi-indhoyare I pledge allegiance to the bag | #Humanityfirst

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    In that case, when you're giving dawah to non-Muslims you should make sure that you tell them "oh btw, think about it carefully because once you enter Islam you can't leave. If you live in a country governed by the shariah you can be killed for it unless you keep it to yourself". Of course this would be after you finish telling them about the beauty of the religion of peace that is Islam.
     
  19. Bile Huruse

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    None of what you wrote has any bases in the quran sister. I can list you many ayats talking about those who disbelive but never ascribes no punishment. in fact you wouldn't find any laws for apostasy in the quran.
     
  20. sigmund

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    im talking about apostate people who WERE muslim but disbelieved...it may not state in the quran but we should also follow the prophet orders since it does state in the quran to follow prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)
     
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