Epidemic of single Somali women

[DJ255]

Some of the guys can't fathom others being different from themselves or jump to the worst conclusions like being gay/asexual etc there is no point having this argument with them.
I already had this argument on multiple occasions on here. You can't reason with them only one or 2 people can avoid sinning in there opinion everyone else is addicted to masterbating

Man gtfo here with this bullshit, delaying Marriage till mid 30s for average male and even female and expecting them not do haram is insanity and not normal at all

Its why Islam and prophet said Marriage fulfills 50% of deen, and to do it asap, average muslim male and female should be married in their 30s simple

 

[Odious Delirium]

you act as if it is somehow normal to not have alot of desire when you have none of those things and naked women everywhere being forced into your eyes.

See your forcing positions that I never argued onto me again.

 

[cooli3o]

Let’s be honest, men aren’t expected to do that.

they are and I observe it everyday, all the guys I talk to do the dishes cleaning and child caring and working, I see on their faces they want to commit suicide, marriages nowadays everyone has equal responsibilities, I know many married ppl and the men are not what everyone says online, the men just do all the work they are supposed to, picking up dropping off kids spending time with them washing etc, everyone is doing work nowadays and that is what is expected of them, and I am seeing this even in the ghetto areas, it isn't even just a middle class thing, men literally stroll their babies on walkers while talking to their friends,
men have been forced to be women now

Giving birth is NOT A FUNNY EXPERIENCE.

- You’re body changes for the worst, forever. Your starts sagging and the guy you end up with might cheat on you simply because he doesn’t “find you attractive”. You can’t alter yourself surgically either since Deen wise- it isn’t allowed.

- postpartum depression. Do I even need to explain this one?

- The Hormonal changes your body goes through will alter you, for the best or for the worst.

- and the worst off it all: THE RUPTURE. Some babies have huge ass heads so a woman will end up having 1 hole instead of 2.


society & the man expects you to get your shit together within 6 months to join the work force. Yeah no shit why women aren’t interested in marriage & children since it doesn’t benefit them at the end off the day. We are very simple and don’t have high standards unlike men do.

noone ever said birth is a fun experience,
also do you realise women since the beginning of time have been giving birth to 5+ children with no healthcare at all and more complications, yet they still would go back to their hard labour after that due to the nature of life, that is just the way it works, ofc women should get a break after pregnancy and it is unfair to force them into the workforce, but modern women have it easier compared to women in the past to a certain extent. pain is part of life and women have always had to go through those things.

if women want to stay single I have no problem with it but as we know a society of all people being single equals destroyed society. I don't believe it is fair to force women to do everything and overwork them but that is a symptom of our society not having any real family support especially for helping women raise children they have to do it by themselves.

 

[cooli3o]

See your forcing positions that I never argued onto me again.

I am not, you clearly said

"You can't reason with them only one or 2 people can avoid sinning in there opinion everyone else is addicted to masterbating "

 

[Odious Delirium]

Man gtfo here with this bullshit, delaying Marriage till mid 30s for average male and even female and expecting them not do haram is insanity and not normal at all

Its why Islam and prophet said Marriage fulfills 50% of deen, and to do it asap, average muslim male and female should be married in their 30s simple, but society is decaying now

Im talking in general myself I don't think a guy would hold up until his 30s usually and be ok but I'm not gonna jump to those conclusions and assume bad of everyone.

You should always assume good.

 

[cooli3o]

Im talking in general myself I don't think a guy would hold up until his 30s usually and be ok but I'm not gonna jump to those conclusions and assume bad of everyone.

You should always assume good.

you shouldn't always assume good when it is obvious something has happened.
its like assuming someone has gone their entire life without lying because you never heard them lie

 

[Odious Delirium]

I am not, you clearly said

"You can't reason with them only one or 2 people can avoid sinning in there opinion everyone else is addicted to masterbating "

Avoid sinning and not having desire are two different things you can have desire and still avoid sinning. I never said that everyone is walking around with no desire. My point was a lot more people then you think are fighting there desires without sinning.

 

[Odious Delirium]

you shouldn't always assume good when it is obvious something has happened.
its like assuming someone has gone their entire life without lying because you never heard them lie

No you actually should there is no arguing this point unless you see it yourself and even then you should still make 99 excuses before jumping to thinking bad. This is just you lot projecting

 

[DJ255]

Im talking in general myself I don't think a guy would hold up until his 30s usually and be ok but I'm not gonna jump to those conclusions and assume bad of everyone.

You should always assume good.

Theres no such thing as assuming, Islam and Prophet are very strict on Marriage for a reason

This is a religion of logic and common sense and sanity, the average Muslim male and female in their 30s especially in todays degenerate world should be married otherwise they are fighting a battle they wont ever win permenately

 

[cooli3o]

No you actually should there is no arguing this point unless you see it yourself and even then you should still make 99 excuses before jumping to thinking bad. This is just you lot projecting

Ibrahim ibn Maysarah said:

“Tawus said to me: ‘Either you get married, or I will say to you what ‘Umar said to Abu’l-Zawaid: There is nothing stopping you from getting married but either impotence or immorality!’ According to al-Mirwadhi,

I guess Umar RA was projecting aswell and wasnt making 99 excuses

javvy you need to understand the way these concepts work, Islamically we make excuses but we do not become stupid and make excuses for the obvious, if we were talking about a specific individual we shouldnt assume bad bc thats backbiting, but if we are talking about a group of people we do not know then we can say statistically and form reality they are probably doing it its just logic, this is also not projecting as I have said I have done research on this more than you and I know what I am talking about

 

[Odious Delirium]

Theres no such thing as assuming, Islam and Prophet are very strict on Marriage for a reason

This is a religion of logic and common sense and sanity, the average Muslim male and female in their 30s especially in todays degenerate world should be married otherwise they are fighting a battle they wont ever win permenately

There are quite a few sheikhs that haven't ever married. I know quite a few people who married rather late in there 30s who are pious people. Your saying we should just assume mufti and scholars are degenerates because you feel that way

 

[cooli3o]

Avoid sinning and not having desire are two different things you can have desire and still avoid sinning. I never said that everyone is walking around with no desire. My point was a lot more people then you think are fighting there desires without sinning.

acc no, if you have strong desires you will eventually sin, thats a fact, unless you are an awliyaa, most ppl if they have that strong a desire will commit a sin.
a perfect evidence of this is the fact anything that leads to zina is haram, freemxiing , khalwa, looking at a women, smelling perfume of a women, because man is so WEAK to women he cannot even smell her, hear her feminie voice, or look at her, because it can lead to zinaa, he cant even be in the room alone with her
why? because when the desire is intiated there is almost no turning back, which is why all rightoues ppl avoid women as much as possible, bc they understand their weakeness to women

if you have a high sexual desire, for a long amount of time, you are most definitely doing something about it, thats a fact, if you arent doing anything, you dont have the desire, and you wouldnt understand

 

[Gacmeey]

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[cooli3o]

There are quite a few sheikhs that haven't ever married. I know quite a few people who married rather late in there 30s who are pious people. Your saying we should just assume mufti and scholars are degenerates because you feel that way

they are not laymen they are pious people but I would not assume they have never done anything haram either because I personally know people who have engaged in degeneracy and they are righteous people and dont do it anymore.
99.9% of people are not pious mufis who can control their desire, which is why the average person is told to marry young

 

[cooli3o]

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nice cope my boy.

 

[Odious Delirium]

Ibrahim ibn Maysarah said:

“Tawus said to me: ‘Either you get married, or I will say to you what ‘Umar said to Abu’l-Zawaid: There is nothing stopping you from getting married but either impotence or immorality!’ According to al-Mirwadhi,

I guess Umar RA was projecting aswell and wasnt making 99 excuses

javvy you need to understand the way these concepts work, Islamically we make excuses but we do not become stupid and make excuses for the obvious, if we were talking about a specific individual we shouldnt assume bad bc thats backbiting, but if we are talking about a group of people we do not know then we can say statistically and form reality they are probably doing it its just logic, this is also not projecting as I have said I have done research on this more than you and I know what I am talking about

Some of the sahaba never got married where they impotent or immoral? Do you think umar was talking about them?

The clear context is if you can get married you have no excuse in delaying it. Many people can't get married or don't get the opportunity to because of various reasons. If there still unmarried late into there 30s that doesn't mean they are degens or the intended target of the sayings you lot keep bringing up.

Every man want to be married. If the guy is mucking about and has the ability to get married but isn't in his 30s then sure something is most definitely wrong but that not the case for everyone. Many people don't get the opportunity and many of them try not to sin.

 

[Gacmeey]

nice cope my boy.

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[Dashiki Bucaale]

@GemState Teach me your baiting ways

 

[cooli3o]

Some of the sahaba never got married where they impotent or immoral? Do you think umar was talking about them?

they were too poor to get married, abu hurayrah asked to castrate himself due to fear of fitna bc he was so scared. plus they didnt live in the amount of fitna we live in now so it would be stupid to assume a guy in his 30s in this society with so much sexualisation has never engaged in degeneracy and is a good guy. I am not even saying it isn't possible, but highly unlikely.

The clear context is if you can get married you have no excuse in delaying it. Many people can't get married or don't get the opportunity to because of various reasons. If there still unmarried late into there 30s that doesn't mean they are degens or the intended target of the sayings you lot keep bringing up.

these guys werent getting married in her post because they dont want to get married not because they cant

Every man want to be married.

i dont

 

[Odious Delirium]

i dont

Your jaded that's why you don't I'm talking about if guys had it there way there isn't a single guy who doesn't want to get married including you unless your gay or asexual. All straight guys whether they have low libido or not would like to get married.