Egyptian Female Student Killed After Rejecting Proposal, Prominent Shaykh blames death on her lack of hijab

bidenkulaha

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There are no accurate data, so how could you say its worse in non Muslim countries? I'm a Muslim, nor am I western loving. But places like Pakistan, Egypt and even Somalia are not safe for women to go about their everyday lives. Gulf countries are usually very safe MashaAllah, more so than the West.

Lets not bury our heads in the sand please. Thousands of Egyptian women, even ones wearing niqab have reported that harrassment is an everyday occurrence. Women who've been there on holiday will tell you how terrible they can be.
The Gulf’s shariah laws actually do help. Unfortunately in Muslim countries where strong laws aren’t practiced this is what happens.

But imo all of them are repressed. Gulf, Egypt, Somalia. They are sex starved. There’s a reason Muslim countries watch the most p*rn.

We need strong sexual education in Muslim countries, we need free mixing to a point so men aren’t literally starved off women contact and become a danger to society when they finally are around them
 
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The Gulf’s shariah laws actually do help. Unfortunately in Muslim countries where strong laws aren’t practiced this is what happens.

But imo all of them are repressed. Gulf, Egypt, Somalia. They are sex starved. There’s a reason Muslim countries watch the most .

We need strong sexual education in Muslim countries, we need free mixing to a point so men aren’t literally starved off women contact and become a danger to society when they finally are around them
The Gulf has strong law and order for EVERYTHING. Guests know that they'll be imprisoned, disciplined and then once they finish their term they're on the first flight back. Policing there is incredibly strong and they don't give leeways. Break their laws and you will be dealt with.

Due to this, In places like Dubai, generally speaking you can walk around with a fat diamond ring and a rolex and 9/10 times you can walk around safely.
 

bidenkulaha

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The Gulf has strong law and order for EVERYTHING. Guests know that they'll be imprisoned, disciplined and then once they finish their term they're on the first flight back. In places like Dubai, generally speaking you can walk around with a fat diamond ring and a rolex and 9/10 times you can walk around safely.
And guess what those Saudis/emiratis do in London unis? Everything they couldn’t do at home. They always were the weirdest at my uni. It’s like a kid let out into a candy story but a creepy version of that. And yet they are on best behaviour when back in their countries.

Would you recommend those laws for Somalia tho? I would but also have an education system that teaches respect for opposite genders and a good sexual education. Have free mixing as much as reasonably possible within the confines of Islam. Although Somalis would be horrified to hear about all these ideas.
 
And guess what those Saudis/emiratis do in London unis? Everything they couldn’t do at home. They always were the weirdest at my uni. It’s like a kid let out into a candy story but a creepy version of that. And yet they are on best behaviour when back in their countries.

Would you recommend those laws for Somalia tho? I would but also have an education system that teaches respect for opposite genders and a good sexual education. Have free mixing as much as reasonably possible within the confines of Islam. Although Somalis would be horrified to hear about all these ideas.
What do you mean Emirati? They have clubs there and White Westerners go there to party ect, so a local could do that without ever leaving Dubai. Saudi is a whole different ball game, but the non conservatives amongst them can also easily go to Bahrain or Dubai to live it up for a weekend. They act like creeps because the policing in places like the UK is weak. You'll get mugged for wearing jewellery, women are often followed ect and the list goes on.

By whole point is, having a strong policing state is important. People need to know that if they break any law small or big, they'll be dealt with by the full force of the law. Arab culture unfortunately has some backward views of women, yet women in the Gulf are more safe, more so than any place in the world. Why? Because the men fear the police and state. I would love Somalia to be that way.
 
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To add to your last point:

Traditionally , Somalis have the most healthiest gender relations in the Muslim world. Things obviously have gone down hill due to the war and disgusting ideologies that some men have become exposed to.

The reason why I say Somali culture is the best when it comes to gender relations is because we behave in moderation. We don't really freemix and we make sure we have hayaa when around the opp gender. But at the same time people are able to talk normally with the opp gender without people misbehaving and speculating the worst.Back home, saying salam to your male neighbor or colleague wouldn't make anyone bat an eyelid. A traditional and normal well adjusted Somali man isn't going to behave like women are extraterrestrial aliens.
In traditional Arab culture, you can't even acknowledge your male cousins in public. It is seen as ceeb. Also, In Somali culture, people getting to know each other for marriage is normal, amongst Arabs that is seen as a taboo. The only thing missing with Somalis are consequences and fear of the state. There is no safety for anyone, let alone women and children who are obviously weaker.
 
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What do you mean Emirati? They have clubs there and White Westerners go there to party ect, so a local could do that without ever leaving Dubai. Saudi is a whole different ball game, but the non conservatives amongst them can also easily go to Bahrain or Dubai to live it up for a weekend. They act like creeps because the policing in places like the UK is weak. You'll get mugged for wearing jewellery, women are often followed ect and the list goes on.

By whole point is, having a strong policing state is important. People need to know that if they break any law small or big, they'll be dealt with by the full force of the law. Arab culture unfortunately has some backward views of women, yet women in the Gulf are more safe, more so than any place in the world. Why? Because the men fear the police and state. I would love Somalia to be that way.
alot of people dont understand security is from Allah. then the military+police.
 
Interesting logic , i guess the veil has some defensive stats im not aware of. If someone's deranged enough to slaughter someone on campus , no clothing would deter them. Sheikh is twisted for blaming the poor girl.
 
Faxx and niggas in countries like Egypt got it rough they’re prolly mad stressed out let dem get a quick blowjob after long day of work watch the general population be much happier.
It’s legal where I live
He was trying to help you be better.

And u respond like that?
It’s harassment this man was bigger than me and scared me. He’s not my relative, he can get the hell on.
 

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I don't know why Somalis have a 6 page thread, chatting all sorts about Egyptians/Arabs, when there is a literal rape epidemic in all four corners of Somalia. Projecting much?
 
Muslim countries watch the most p*rn.
People do not watch p0rn bc they are sex starved, ppl were sex starved in the past and had no p0rn and they were fine.
P0rn is like a drug addiction it has nothing to do with sexual urges, sure what may have led them to watch it was an original curiosity or sexual urge, but after that its just an addiction to novelty.
P0rn actually makes people more sex starved, it makes men more sexually violent towards women and makes misogyny even worse
 
Because the men fear the police and state. I would love Somalia to be that way.
Obviously law and order needs to be put in place, but that 1.is expensive and 2.The cultural views of women are still wrong, meaning men will do anything to find a loophole around the law to exercise their misogynistic views
The best way is to educate and teach societal values from a young age, you want to change the culture of society, so even without a strict law the people do not even want to commit crimes, when that happens a strict law helps maintain the in place, but the root cause of these problems is not in the government but in the actually society
 

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