Do you guys agree with chunks?

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I'd do the opposite. I'll treat my culture and deen like it's all mine and some cool shit they're not welcome to participate in. "No, you go hangout with ajanabi friends, son. We don't like your kind at the Mosque, you bloody oreo." he'll get deeply insecure and Islam will be a forbidden fruit for him. He'll self salafize without even knowing it.

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I'll do all sorts of bid'ah shit like wearing an elaborate turban and khamiis to the masjid and light incense whenever I pray salat in the house. Then host group Qur'an readings in a majlis that looks like this they won't be allowed into. Their cultureless ore ass will be seething over not being allowed to participate in the cool Dune: Part Two shit Papa is up to. I'll know my work is complete when I see one of those niggas at the local masjid giving a qutbah and takfiring me for not teaching them their deen and further denouncing me for my bid'ah practices.

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They’re hypocrites but that doesn’t mean saying controversial things openly is okay especially during a time were anti-immigrant sentiment is really high. Racists literally trawl the internet searching for content like this
Exactly. We don’t have the numbers at all. The whole SoMe space theres only one loud group, and thats the right. This is like handing them fresh snacks.
 

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Comparing someone agreeing with a nazi party and allowing them to inflict whatever they want on them to having a different opinion in regards to religion is ridiculous.

Reducing leaving islam to "difference of opinion" in itself is a bad faith argument. To you it might be a simple difference in opinion, to a muslim it might as well be life or death. I don't know if you choose to understand that or not.

Leaving a faith isn't equivalent to supporting or committing harm.

Again, this is you and your personal thoughts. There is no objectivity behind any of this. There's people out there who genuinely don't even think supporting or committing harm against certain individuals is an issue. On the opposite spectrum, it's no different than when racists say "how can you stop being friends with someone over their opinions". And their "opinions" is just blatant racism and eugenics lmfao.

And like I said you can believe your children is going down the wrong path religiously but to reject and disown them is insane. it's not like I don't understand your perspective, I just disagree with it. Anyways I don't want to start an argument, you're entitled to your own opinion, as am I, have a nice day.
I mean if we are just gonna settle with "I have my opinion you have yours, have a nice day". Why even respond to this thread. Why not extend this same courtesy to chunkz and respect his opinions?

You clearly disagreed with chunkz and

This forum is for open discussion on all sorts of topics. It's my pet peeve when I meet people on this site who just shut down discussion and go "It's my opinion you can have yours" when their ideas get challenged.

“I don’t want to start an argument” is just a euphemism for “I don’t want to have to reassess my beliefs”
 
Chunkz opinion is not crazy. I get why he would feel that way, but I do also feel that this approach is also doing more harm. You never know how things will turn out in a decade or less.


But to keep it a buck Chunkz always seemed performative to me. His opinion may actually be guided by narcistic reasons :^{
 
Reducing leaving islam to "difference of opinion" in itself is a bad faith argument. To you it might be a simple difference in opinion, to a muslim it might as well be life or death. I don't know if you choose to understand that or not.



Again, this is you and your personal thoughts. There is no objectivity behind any of this. There's people out there who genuinely don't even think supporting or committing harm against certain individuals is an issue. On the opposite spectrum, it's no different than when racists say "how can you stop being friends with someone over their opinions". And their "opinions" is just blatant racism and eugenics lmfao.


I mean if we are just gonna settle with "I have my opinion you have yours, have a nice day". Why even respond to this thread. Why not extend this same courtesy to chunkz and respect his opinions?

You clearly disagreed with chunkz and

This forum is for open discussion on all sorts of topics. It's my pet peeve when I meet people on this site who just shut down discussion and go "It's my opinion you can have yours" when their ideas get challenged.

“I don’t want to start an argument” is just a euphemism for “I don’t want to have to reassess my beliefs”
No, I genuinely just don't want to start an argument, I responded to the thread because the guy was literally asking wether or not we agreed with chunkz. And like I said In that reply, it's not that I don't understand why you guys think like this, it's that's I disagree with your line of thinking, big difference.
 
People who make this argument are incredibly low IQ or just flat out liars.

Even both of you I guarantee are willing to disown your children given the right circumstances.

It's just a matter of how extreme you think their views and actions are before you see fit to disown them.

This standard you place is completely arbitrary and dependent on the individual.

If your child told you he will turn into a c0on for some racist nazi party because he believes he is inferior and is willing to tolerate anything that group does to him (by anything I mean ANYTHING). you would disown your child. Obviously this isn;t to say you would try to help them and guide them, but once they become adults and show no sign of changing you would give up on them and wouldn't tolerate their actions.

To a muslim, leaving islam is one of the worst possible sins you can commit as you willingly put yourself to eternal damnation and is no different than the aforementioned example. This is why I think your take is completely low IQ because you people struggle to think past your own perspective.

Why would any muslim (someone who believes in god and the afterlife) ever be willing to enable their child in completely throwing away their eternal afterlife for the sake of the dunya. Even if you are not muslim yourself, you cannot seem to think from that perspective?
So it’s “low iq” to disagree with an opinion now ? I never said his opinion is wrong. I simply don’t agree, and that’s that. The discussion on hand is about religion. Obviously, I would disown anyone for certain things (r*pist etc.), but not for being an ex-Muslim because I have faith that they will return, and that is where me and Chunkz have different views.
 

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