Do African 'leaders' actually want Africa to grow
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oh no they know exactly what they are doing they are not dumb in that sense, many even have foreign backers, that why I don't believe democracy can help Africa rise at least in the beginning it's too easy to put in foreign pawns, btw i'm not a big fan of pan africanism i don't believe it's the way too go someone is always gonna try and put their interests first, plus it will not be good for the sovereignty and individual identity of the African people, I would be willing to cooperate with other African nations economically and that about it.
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Nilotic
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Exactly!
They know precisely what they're doing; they know that foreign powers are only out for their political and commercial interests and they're only too happy to accommodate them if it means they get a small cut out of it.
The process of building a Nation would actually require our 'leaders' to be principled, visionary and to defer instant gratification and to create Nations built on meritocracy; this means systematically fighting corruption and nepotism.
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Nilotic
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What makes you think they actually want it to grow?
They'd have a bigger pot of money to steal from
those retards are practically sitting on a gold mine of reasouces, it's the richest continent, they simply lack foresight and ambition they are satisfied by eating the European table scraps
Resource curse is a real thing, 2 of Africa's more advanced and stable countries are Botswana and Namibia, which are essentially deserts
Nilotic
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Yes, but a bigger pot takes decades to accrue; you have to invest in critical infrastructure, education and independent institutions, and this means refraining from corruption.
African 'leaders' love the idea of extracting natural resources from the ground because it doesn't require any investments into education and infrastructure unrelated to those commercial projects.
It sounds like an appalling level of cynicism, but I truly believe that African leaders relish seeing our people languishing in poverty; they don't want to be encumbered by an educated and wealthy populace.
yeah I ain't denying it isn't a thing but still, they are satisfied with the status quo it's their citizens that are starving not them, now lets take a look at china they are a resource-rich country how did they rise, by playing dead and using the westerner's greed as the engine of their economy, they actually learned from their century of humiliation and internalized that lesson,
Nilotic
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The resource curse is real, but why did the Gulf States use their oil resource to build their Nations?
Why didn't we get even a handful of Nations that did the same? Namibia and Botswana only look good by African standards.
the gulf states were willing to play ball with the west so the west propped them up, why would the west ever Propp Africa up when they can benefit more from it staying down, African has the potential to become an economic juggernaut even the blind can see that why would you let a potential enemy with a grievance rise
Kool-Aid
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Civil wars and countries having multiple ethnicities are the problem. This is what is ruining Africa.
The Gulf states have gas & oil reserves levels of magnitude higher than every African country bar Nigeria. But ultimately, the answer boils down to just incompetency.
The hope is that CRISPR technology is going to allow Africa to catch up.
they are satisfied with playing king of an ant hill
I believe the problem can be argued to be both sides. We have to give our leaders a chance but also hold them accountable too after benifit of the doubt is exhausted. I can't speak for other fellow african countries but in Somalia, we have a unique situation where we become obstacle to any leader we elect, we have unrealistic expectation in terms of solving major issues while we the people sit back. I say all of us have a part to play, from an individual perspective. I can go on but as one of my favorite presidents said "ask not what your country can do for you ask what you can do for your country? rings true 
Kool-Aid
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Because the gulf states native arabs population did not rebel against the Kings. Eventually the rulers get bored of buy new cars and mansions, so they then uses the rest the money to build up the country. This keeps the population happy plus bring prestige to the country which the Arab rulers like. Also the gulf has a small population compare to the amount of oil they have so they are able to uplift the native Arab populations living standards very easily.
The problem with Africa is the leaders are constantly replaced. Their position is not guaranteed, so the new leader then tries to make as much wealth from the country as soon as possible because he knows he will be eventually be overthrown no matter what he does.
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Nilotic
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Yes, the West propped them up but they actually invested in their Nations at the heels of those arrangements, and I see no evidence that Africans were unable to ink similar deals by being more principled.
Unlike China, Africa's very fragmented and has no history of ever being unified. Africa's only a giant in unified form and this is unlikely to eventuate anytime soon, and I very much doubt that the notion featured into Western geopolitical designs.
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