Disclaimer: The last thread I did about Somaliland getting the capital had nothing to do with Qabiil.

Or south mudug joins north mudug in being part of puntland-
For 3 reasons

1 north has a longer running government
2 north has more population
3 north controls 75% of the largest city

if any party should join the other, the logic says south joins north in being part of puntland- atleast that way you can make use of Abdulahi yusuf airport
We don't want to rule over them and don't want them ruling over us. That's why we created federalism. It's a how we can make peace.
 
Again you say SomaliaItaliana. This isn't 1955. British and italian claims to our land have been null and void for over 60 years.
Suppose SL was to somehow re-join Somalia and become a FMS - How would the borders between SL & PL be defined?

Speaking purely hypothetically of course.

Unless the two go to war over the current disputed territories, would the SL & PL borders not be based on the old colonial borders between the British & Italians, as per the current Somalia "constitution"? If those are the borders, then I hope I don't have to draw you a picture as to what that means as far as your above statement.
 
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Suppose SL was to somehow re-join Somalia and become a FMS - How would the borders between SL & PL be defined?

Unless the two go to war over the current disputed territories, would they not be based on the old colonial borders between the British & Italians, as per the current Somalia "constitution"?

Speaking purely hypothetically of course.
The colonial borders don't mean anything anymore. Why do you think the whole world is telling somaliland to take the issue up with your brothers. That's fact. In my opinion it's ultimately up to the locals to decide. If it's between Harti and isaaq puntland will most likely peacefully win. Unless somaliland keeps coming with that British EXCUSE to gain more land by the barrel of the gun. Then unfortunately war maybe inevitable. That's just how I see it.
 
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The colonial borders don't mean anything anymore. Why do you think the whole world is telling somaliland to take the issue up with your brothers. That's fact. In my opinion it's ultimately up to the locals to decide. If it's between Harti and isaaq puntland will most likely peacefully win. Unless somaliland keeps coming with that British EXCUSE to gain more land by the barrel of the gun. Then unfortunately war maybe inevitable. That's just how I see it.
You didn't answer the question. Instead you went on an emotional anti-SL rant.

I'll repost the question again, emphasizing the key premise in bold.

Unless the two go to war over the current disputed territories, would the SL & PL borders not be based on the old colonial borders between the British & Italians, as per the current Somalia "constitution"?

I don't think you want a Lander to tell you how FMS borders are supposed to work, as per your "constitution". Hint: it doesn't say let the locals decide.
 
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You didn't answer the question. Instead you went on an emotional anti-SL rant.

I'll repost the question again, emphasizing the key premise in bold.



I don't think you want a Lander to tell you how FMS borders are supposed to work, as per your "constitution". Hint: it doesn't say let the locals decide.
No one recognizes these British and italian borders. They have become null and void in 1960 (somalis fighting for freedom never recognized or cared for euro borders on our land, even your clan).
Show me what articles you are referring to in the Constitution then maybe I can give you my opinion on your hypothetical situation.
 
No one recognizes these British and italian borders. They have become null and void in 1960 (somalis fighting for freedom never recognized or cared for euro borders on our land).
Show me what articles you are referring to in the Constitution then maybe I can give you my opinion on your hypothetical situation.
Lol, keep running. Final time, I asked you a question - What does your "constitution" say about how the SL & PL borders would be defined, in a hypothetical situation where SL agreed to be a FMS?

You were quoting the Somalia "constitution" earlier in this thread, so you should know, or at least be able to find it.
 
Lol, keep running. Final time, I asked you a question - What does your "constitution" say about how the SL & PL borders would be defined, in a hypothetical situation where SL agreed to be a FMS?

You were quoting the Somalia "constitution" earlier in this thread, so you should know, or at least be able to find it.
Doesn't mean I memorized the whole thing lol ask Americans to recite the first 15 ammendments and see how far they get. If I don't know something then I'll straight up say it. Since your the one referring our Constitution on this issue then your the one who ought to educate me. Lol @ I'm running.
 
Doesn't mean I memorized the whole thing lol ask Americans to recite the first 15 ammendments and see how far they get. If I don't know something then I'll straight up say it. Since your the one referring our Constitution on this issue then your the one who ought to educate me. Lol @ I'm running.
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Again you say SomaliaItaliana. This isn't 1955. British and italian claims to our land have been null and void for over 60 years.

I dont care about the semantics

Somalia/Italiana = Somaliland/English.

Since were writing in English, maybe we should actually call the SFG the Somaliland Federal Government

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If it's between Harti and isaaq puntland will most likely peacefully win. Unless somaliland keeps coming with that British EXCUSE to gain more land by the barrel of the gun. Then unfortunately war maybe inevitable. That's just how I see it.

Translation: Migiurtinia region of SomaliaItaliana should wage war on Harti who support Somaliland democracy


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Tribalizing issues like reunification and form of government will make it more difficult to rebuild/reunite the former SomaliRepublic

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If youre so concerned about reunificaiton, start with getting Migiurtinia reuniting with the rest of the SFG. Clan confederalism or silent seperation are not the same as real federal union
 

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Most ordinary folk from Somalia don't mind/care if SL gets officially recognised as independent. Only our political elites don't accept their gooni isutaag, probably for narrow self-interest reasons.
That’s not true and you know that’s not the case which country would keep a policy that has no public support whatsoever? And what it is the difference between the populace of the northwestern part and the rest? Nothing and no one will dispute this point both are Somalis from the Somali ethnic group share the same tribe religion and culture/language it only consists of its respective clans/subclans
 
I dont care about the semantics

Somalia/Italiana = Somaliland/English.

Since were writing in English, maybe we should actually call the SFG the Somaliland Federal Government

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Translation: Migiurtinia region of SomaliaItaliana should wage war on Harti who support Somaliland democracy


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Tribalizing issues like reunification and form of government will make it more difficult to rebuild/reunite the former SomaliRepublic

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If youre so concerned about reunificaiton, start with getting Migiurtinia reuniting with the rest of the SFG. Clan confederalism or silent seperation are not the same as real federal union
U never finished your point on the Constitution. Is there something u can't find? Still running from that?
 
U never finished your point on the Constitution. Is there something u can't find? Still running from that?

What constiution did I make a point about?

The constitions of the Somalia Republic: the Wanlaweyn constiution of 1961 rejected by Somaliland and it was implementeed in contravention of the 1960 Somaliland Law of Union between Somalilland and Somalia

whatever Afweyne wrote

The constitutions of the South/Wanlaweyn:
Carta constitution
Mbegati constitution of CabdilaahiYuusuf and TPLF
The current SFG constitution based on Mbegati

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What constiution did I make a point about?

The constitions of the Somalia Republic: the Wanlaweyn constiution of 1961 rejected by Somaliland and it was implementeed in contravention of the 1960 Somaliland Law of Union between Somalilland and Somalia

whatever Afweyne wrote

The constitutions of the South/Wanlaweyn:
Carta constitution
Mbegati constitution of CabdilaahiYuusuf and TPLF
The current SFG constitution based on Mbegati

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U can't even remember why you brought up the Constitution lol stop coming on this forum high off drugs
 
U can't even remember why you brought up the Constitution lol stop coming on this forum high off drugs

I never used the word constitution in this thread until you brough it up in your reply. Im the hardcore realist who doesnt do the the ictiraafism or clan confederalism khiyaali talk. Im telling you again Benaadir state has bigger population than 4 out of 5 FMS in the SomaliaItaliana federal government. SFG is headed for never ending constitutional crises.

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If you want JSL to physically reunite with SomaliaItaliana you need a functioning FGS and you have to accept what it takes to create a functioning FGS. Anything else is khaali talk like Somaliland is fake nonexistent and Benaadir control will be shared between the 5 FMS/parliament but Benaadir gets un/under-represented
 
You didn't answer the question. Instead you went on an emotional anti-SL rant.

I'll repost the question again, emphasizing the key premise in bold.



I don't think you want a Lander to tell you how FMS borders are supposed to work, as per your "constitution". Hint: it doesn't say let the locals decide.
What did u say? Keep getting high and forgetting u wanted a response on something from the Constitution that u don't even know about lol keep on making an ass of yourself.
No one is begging for re unification. Isaaq r the ones begging for seperation and no one is flinching
 

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3 of u or 1 person with 3 accounts ganging up on someone is pathetic. Get a life
You said a federal state has to be made up of 2 or more regions and I told you read the constitution. Those rules do not apply to Banaadir.

Get off here if you're complaining about people ganging up on you when the others posts are from 5 days ago you lil bxtch.
 
You said a federal state has to be made up of 2 or more regions and I told you read the constitution. Those rules do not apply to Banaadir.

Get off here if you're complaining about people ganging up on you when the others posts are from 5 days ago you lil bxtch.

CHAPTER 5. DEVOLUTION OF THE POWERS OF GOVERNMENT INTHE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF SOMALIA​

Title One. Structure and Principles of Collaboration of the Levels of Government​

Article 48. The Structure of Government​


1. The structure of the government in the Federal Republic of Somalia is composed of two levels of government:

a.The Federal Government Level;
b.The Federal Member States Level, which is comprised of the Federal Member State government, and the local governments.

2. No single region can stand alone. Until such time as a region merges with another region(s) to form a new Federal Member State, a region shall be directly administered by the Federal Government for a maximum period of two years.
 

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