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Did Hassan sheikh mahamoud defeat Somaliland

Somalilandi is in misery since the E visa
They have no idea what to do next
What no president of Somalia could do HSM did it establish a state in laascanood for Dhulbahante.
HSM made sure that Abiye listens to him on all isues regarding Somaliland
i saw mahamoud hashi leader of kaah calacaalin that he was forced to get an E visa for SOMALIA
 
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Markii aan Dubai imid oo aan doonayay in aan u soo baxo dhinaca Somaliland ee Hargeysa, waxa dhacay in markii aan miisaankii tagay laygu yidhi ma sidata fiise. Waxaan tusay waraaq odhanaysa in qofku uu fiisaha ku qaato markuu yimaado; waxayna nagu yidhaahdeen sharciga Somaliland ma garanayno,” ayuu yidhi Cabdiraxmaan.
 
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Looks like FGS caused confusion but really it's not going to win them anything.
The people of Somaliland rejected the union and trying a shake down isn't going to reverse the facts.

HSM/FGS is on a road to nowhere much like MSB in his final years. Trying any old thing. E-visa as a political tool is a new one but it matches the desperation.
 
itsnot easy i know u try to downsize the damage but i tell you , u know it deep down inside he got you by the balls all that nonsense we are a country it took a man just in control of one city in Somalia to shake u down tell airliners they have to abide his rule., this is going to damage Somaliland , remember the Somali diaspora who goes back home are usually all from Somaliland , reer puntland reer galmudug reer jubbaland dont go back as the othr regions to their homelands., so once Somaliland tax 60 dollars at arrival , and they are forxed to pay 65 dollars for an E visa. they pay double , this will make sure less Somaliland people will visit hargeisa because of the double charge and SL wil lose economy and traffic , the thing is there is nothing you can do , u cant say shit to fly dubai or Ethiopia airlines , there is nothing u can do
 
itsnot easy i know u try to downsize the damage but i tell you , u know it deep down inside he got you by the balls all that nonsense we are a country it took a man just in control of one city in Somalia to shake u down tell airliners they have to abide his rule., this is going to damage Somaliland , remember the Somali diaspora who goes back home are usually all from Somaliland , reer puntland reer galmudug reer jubbaland dont go back as the othr regions to their homelands., so once Somaliland tax 60 dollars at arrival , and they are forxed to pay 65 dollars for an E visa. they pay double , this will make sure less Somaliland people will visit hargeisa because of the double charge and SL wil lose economy and traffic , the thing is there is nothing you can do , u cant say shit to fly dubai or Ethiopia airlines , there is nothing u can do

He can't force Somaliland to the table with this measure.
Lol he needs a competent military to achieve that which is never happening.
If Somaliland agrees to negotiate then I'll agree the damage was severe and unstoppable otherwise nah.
 
He can't force Somaliland to the table with this measure.
Lol he needs a competent military to achieve that which is never happening.
If Somaliland agrees to negotiate then I'll agree the damage was severe and unstoppable otherwise nah.
I thought SL passport could get you into UK and UAE? Anyway, enjoy flying to Ethiopia then driving to Wajaale to get home :trumpsmirk:
 
I thought SL passport could get you into UK and UAE? Anyway, enjoy flying to Ethiopia then driving to Wajaale to get home :trumpsmirk:

Stop talking to yourself.

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He can't force Somaliland to the table with this measure.
Lol he needs a competent military to achieve that which is never happening.
If Somaliland agrees to negotiate then I'll agree the damage was severe and unstoppable otherwise nah.


i dont think he wants Somaliland to come to the negotations table , i think he wants to damage Somaliland in order to get leverage and then force them back to the union so far its working, he is showing the world and to Somalilanders that what they tell themselves they are not a country , remember when they said they are going to introduce E visa themselves how did that go.. i think its a very bad year for them , also he is going to visit laascanood and buhoodle , buhoodle is togdheer which is burco, imagine a sitting president of somalia visiting togdheer.
 
i dont think he wants Somaliland to come to the negotations table , i think he wants to damage Somaliland in order to get leverage and then force them back to the union so far its working, he is showing the world and to Somalilanders that what they tell themselves they are not a country , remember when they said they are going to introduce E visa themselves how did that go.. i think its a very bad year for them , also he is going to visit laascanood and buhoodle , buhoodle is togdheer which is burco, imagine a sitting president of somalia visiting togdheer.

Yet tomorrow you will continue to hear of Somaliland recognition case moving forward that's why these threads get no traction. You got to get a new hobby. Most people realized that already.
 
Yet tomorrow you will continue to hear of Somaliland recognition case moving forward that's why these threads get no traction. You got to get a new hobby. Most people realized that already.


recognition can only come from Mogadishu u need
Yet tomorrow you will continue to hear of Somaliland recognition case moving forward that's why these threads get no traction. You got to get a new hobby. Most people realized that already.


I am not particularly optimistic that recognition will ever materialise. Somaliland’s recognition, in truth, can only come through Mogadishu. The Memorandum of Understanding was the closest Somaliland has ever come to formal recognition and even that was swiftly destroyed by President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud.
I doubt very much that the President of the United States would pursue recognition for Somaliland. Despite the efforts of figures such as Ted Cruz and the introduction of several bills in Congress, these remain largely symbolic gestures political semantics rather than a genuine path toward statehood.
Recognition from the African Union is improbable so long as Egypt remains an influential member, and it is equally unattainable through the Arab League, which will invariably side with Somalia. The United Kingdom, for its part, is reluctant to be seen as a neo colonial power that seeks to divide Somalia once again. That leaves the United States, where some Republicans may be sympathetic to the idea, yet it is far from a strategic priority. For these reasons, I find it difficult to believe that Somaliland’s recognition will be realised any time soon. you can bring forward argument there is something else ., though i think it was smart to use taiwan to make US like u and support you., but i dont think it will push the US to really divide somalia as it did divide sudan. when they forced hassan bashir to give south sudan a referendum. US isnt going to play such a role, because there is no oil , also them being in berbera makes no sense they are in djibouti already, they can even come to berbera with out recogntion . you couldn couldnt convince one country to recognise Somaliland
 
recognition can only come from Mogadishu u need



I am not particularly optimistic that recognition will ever materialise. Somaliland’s recognition, in truth, can only come through Mogadishu. The Memorandum of Understanding was the closest Somaliland has ever come to formal recognition and even that was swiftly destroyed by President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud.
I doubt very much that the President of the United States would pursue recognition for Somaliland. Despite the efforts of figures such as Ted Cruz and the introduction of several bills in Congress, these remain largely symbolic gestures political semantics rather than a genuine path toward statehood.
Recognition from the African Union is improbable so long as Egypt remains an influential member, and it is equally unattainable through the Arab League, which will invariably side with Somalia. The United Kingdom, for its part, is reluctant to be seen as a neo colonial power that seeks to divide Somalia once again. That leaves the United States, where some Republicans may be sympathetic to the idea, yet it is far from a strategic priority. For these reasons, I find it difficult to believe that Somaliland’s recognition will be realised any time soon. you can bring forward argument there is something else ., though i think it was smart to use taiwan to make US like u and support you., but i dont think it will push the US to really divide somalia as it did divide sudan. when they forced hassan bashir to give south sudan a referendum. US isnt going to play such a role, because there is no oil , also them being in berbera makes no sense they are in djibouti already, they can even come to berbera with out recogntion . you couldn couldnt convince one country to recognise Somaliland

For many years, there has persisted a notion that the Somali state could be reconstituted under a government based in Mogadishu. Yet, for a multitude of reasons, this vision has never materialised. I shall not dwell excessively on the causes, though a few are worth noting. Firstly, the communities of Mogadishu have long displayed a certain aversion to structured governance. Secondly, the enduring threat shabaabistes has gravely undermined stability. Thirdly, corruption has taken deep root, eroding the very moral fabric of the city. It sometimes seems that the Somali soul itself has withered in Mogadishu.

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How do these two statement contradict each other. Yes we should remodel somalia . We should oppose Somaliland statehood. I believe a somali republic that is free from Mogadishu and free from hargeisa secession. There should be another option to achieve Peace in Somalia . Perhaps osman99 year confederal system
 

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Somaliland will fold completely once Xamar is stable, corruption-free and the country sees unprecedented wealth expansion, possibly from resource extraction. Somalida worship the £€$¥ not siyaasi hebel or qadiyad hebel. Many Iidoor even came flocking to Xamar in 2006 with hopes of a new Somali order. When that spark returns we will see secession die instantly. Who would want to be broke and isolated when they can be rich and united?
 
Somaliland will fold completely once Xamar is stable, corruption-free and the country sees unprecedented wealth expansion, possibly from resource extraction. Somalida worship the £€$¥ not siyaasi hebel or qadiyad hebel. Many Iidoor even came flocking to Xamar in 2006 with hopes of a new Somali order. When that spark returns we will see secession die instantly. Who would want to be broke and isolated when they can be rich and united?

Governance begins on the street level.
So focus on your city. Secession shouldn't even be part of your vocabulary.
 
Somaliland will fold completely once Xamar is stable, corruption-free and the country sees unprecedented wealth expansion, possibly from resource extraction. Somalida worship the £€$¥ not siyaasi hebel or qadiyad hebel. Many Iidoor even came flocking to Xamar in 2006 with hopes of a new Somali order. When that spark returns we will see secession die instantly. Who would want to be broke and isolated when they can be rich and united?
What if xamar never comes back then. Ur telling me Somalia Will not come back because of xamar . Then what remember we have been in this situation the last what 25 what years . Mogosdishu isn’t the solution of Somali problems it’s the biggest problem . Mogadishu drove jubbaland and puntland into the secession ideology today puntland has a defense treaty with Somaliland
 

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Somaliland will fold completely once Xamar is stable, corruption-free and the country sees unprecedented wealth expansion, possibly from resource extraction. Somalida worship the £€$¥ not siyaasi hebel or qadiyad hebel. Many Iidoor even came flocking to Xamar in 2006 with hopes of a new Somali order. When that spark returns we will see secession die instantly. Who would want to be broke and isolated when they can be rich and united?
:russ: Niggas had decades to remove Al Qaeda & foreign troops. Xamar isn’t an existential threat to SL. Our current main threat is from the Jabarti hordes in Eastern SL.

Xamar will never truly rule the Daroods to have a unified state. Only a unified Hawiye-Darod-Raxanweyn state can possibly militarily defeat & occupy an Isaaq nation that believes that the walanweyn horde has come to exterminate them.

A red blooded Isaaq will never allow a corrupt Hawiye in Xamar to rule him. There are truly only two final political solutions excluding an occupation to the status quo: Swiss style confederation or secessionism. There is no reality that the Isaaq nation will give up the only entity that protects them for zero value.
 

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What if xamar never comes back then. Ur telling me Somalia Will not come back because of xamar . Then what remember we have been in this situation the last what 25 what years . Mogosdishu isn’t the solution of Somali problems it’s the biggest problem . Mogadishu drove jubbaland and puntland into the secession ideology today puntland has a defense treaty with Somaliland

It would be cool if an anti-Mogadishu alliance was formed and tabled as a legitimate opposition with proposals from all the parties you've just mentioned, add Laftagareen to make it paramount on HSM's area of control. There all seems to be similar concerns regarding their autonomies. But you make it easy for HSM to ignore these woes with his small ploys like recognition of NE state, parallel JL maamul-in waiting etc. Any future President from Galmudug (incl Marehan), Hirshabelle and Benadir communities will continue to pickpocket the FMS structure until they collect the debris. Abdiweli Gaas made big strides in getting the FMS on the same page when he was PL president but they dissociated after HSM and Farmaajo's election yrs. We need state level think tank platforms to offer far lasting ideas that addresses the unique concerns of peoples, places and phenomena with conclusive settlements, negotiation and concessions. You know all Somalis want to have their cake and eat it.

HSM at this very time wants airfields and marine bases protecting a small zone around an extended Xamar going to Mahaday where Sharif is from up to Baraawe and intends to have strong military support in another term that will see him apply more pressure on the FMS. Deni, Lafta and Madoobe who are all younger than him have time and health on their side. HSM unlike IOG has an insurgency problem but will seek to cement his party under a strong Damuljadiid politburo. The few known fervents were Farah Topaz, Odowaa, Cali Balcad and Aweys Haji. They are figures who hail from marginal representation amongst Hawiye like the Sheikhal, Silcis, Hilibi and Saleban etc a measure by HSM to protect himself. Topaz is his closest aide, then its DJ, then its his family then UPD. Odowaa is now chairman of the group. The wider UPD party is just their IPO and has revolving door members like the PM, Mahad Salaad, Sanbaloolshe, Fiqi, Hassan Macalin, Muuse Suudi etc.
 
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