DH response to Faris

Omar del Sur

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DH has a lot of problems but what he's saying here is one hundred percent right (besides maybe calling Faris a rabbi, which I don't agree with... and maybe besides using the term "Madkhali")


 

Basra

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There can be a global armageddon and a certain side of Muslim twitter will still be going at each other


What happened to u huuno? maa Faaalaastin depression baa kuhaaya?
 
I wanted to quickly make a statement in regards to this matter, bismillah. Brother Faris has been wrongly slandered and dh is speaking out of ignorance. Protests and boycotts known as mudaharaat (like striking) and it is agreed among the scholars of ahlul sunnah that it is impermissible to do so in a Muslim country as faris had stated. However, in a kafir country (where most of us reside), although protesting is still haram it is permissible to boycott, but not waajib either. There have been multiple fataawa issued by scholars such as the honourable sheikh saleh al fawzan on this matter and their rulings must be obeyed. To protest for palestine is to engage in jahiliyah, and to boycott while living in a muslim country does nothing but cripple the pockets of muslim franchise owners, although boycotting in a non muslim country is permissible. For anyone curious I can provide the evidence I have received as well as the statements issued by scholars in regards to this matter wa bilahi tawfiq. Please excuse my writing if I have made any mistake as english is not my first language
 

Basra

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Do I seem moodier than usual, Basra?
:francis:


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Omar del Sur

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I wanted to quickly make a statement in regards to this matter, bismillah. Brother Faris has been wrongly slandered and dh is speaking out of ignorance. Protests and boycotts known as mudaharaat (like striking) and it is agreed among the scholars of ahlul sunnah that it is impermissible to do so in a Muslim country as faris had stated.

I have never advocated protests... although I have a fatwa from Sheikh Uthaymeen where he suggests they're permissible in non-Muslim countries and honestly I'm not actually convinced that protests are haraam. this idea that protests are absolutely indisputably haraam seems a little convenient for the Saudi government and the names people use to defend this view tend to be names that are very buddy with that government.

But putting that to the side....

THE SCHOLARS OF AHLUS SUNNAH

say that boycotting in a Muslim country is impermissible.

honestly- I think there should be some degree of separation and independence between THE SCHOLARS OF AHLUS SUNNAH and the Saudi government. conveniently, it is impossible for any scholar they imprison to be a SCHOLAR OF AHLUS SUNNAH because he is no longer upon the sunnah the moment they imprison him... audubillah.

anyways......

the SCHOLARS OF AHLUS SUNNAH have declared boycotting mcdonalds in Muslim lands to be impermissible... Farris was straight up seeming to suggest mcdonalds boycotters are khawarij....

but anyways.... so- Albaani is a not a scholar of ahlus sunnah?? Albaani is scholar of ahlul bid'ah???


"May Allah have mercy upon Shaykh Albani and who beautifully answered a question about meat imported from Bulgaria whilst they were slaughtering the Muslims. He said: “I say it is a must that you have heard - if you are in doubt whether it was or was not slaughtered according to the Islamic guidelines - then you are in NO DOUBT that they are slaughtering our Turkish Muslims brothers like sheep who have been living there for a long time. Even if the Bulgarians are correctly slaughtering this meat - which we are importing - then, I say it is NOT permissible for us to import this from them, rather it is obligatory upon us to boycott them until they stop shedding the blood of our Muslim brothers there. Glorified be Allah - the feeling of [Islamic] brotherhood has died which the Messenger of Allah described as being like one body: “The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “The parable of the believers in their affection, mercy, and compassion for each other is that of a body. When any limb aches, the whole body reacts with sleeplessness and fever.” The Muslims are not feeling the pain of their brothers, [it is as if] the Islamic connection between them has been cut off… That is why their concern is asking the question: is it permissible to eat Bulgarian meat… …my brother, you know that the Bulgarians are slaughtering the Muslims there and there is no difference between an Arab, Turkish or Afghan Muslim etc. It is just like Allah said in the Qur’ān: “Indeed, the believers are brothers.” If we are [truly] brothers, then it is obligatory we have jealousy for each other, grieve for each other and one is not just to concern himself with his food and drink.” Shaykh Albani also said: “do they not know that these Bulgarians are slaughtering our Muslim brothers there?! Is this oppression and transgression against our Muslim brothers there, not sufficient enough to turn us away from Bulgarian meat EVEN if it was HALAL. This [speech] is sufficient and it is a reminder because no doubt, the reminder surely benefits the believers.”"
 
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Omar del Sur

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I want to say directly- the idea that it is not permissible for any Muslim anywhere to boycott McDonalds is utter bogus. Nobody. Needs. Any permission from any government. To boycott McDonalds.

and that was addressed in the thread I made on boycotting.

and DH's point in OP still stands. look at the discrepancy between how Farris reacted to the genocide of Palestinians versus what happened with Shamsi.
 

Omar del Sur

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ppl are shamelessly distorting what salafiyyah actually is.... "every salafi must defend Saudi"... this is a bid'ah.... following the way of the salaf means being a stooge for Saudi Arabia, land of.... whatever that is going on over there.... that is nonsense

 
DH has a lot of problems but what he's saying here is one hundred percent right (besides maybe calling Faris a rabbi, which I don't agree with... and maybe besides using the term "Madkhali")


How do you know that he doesn't make dua for Palestine aswell, what he's saying there is still wrong , idk why he's taken serious in 2023
 

techsamatar

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Lol are these Bidah Munafiqs still trying to frame that WW1/2 tweet against faris lol. It was troll account and he did not even tweet it since its so irrelevant and he denied it.
 

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