Darods should aim for the speaker's position

[Mckenzie]

This is the best chance the Darod can win Presidency, I actually want them to win so @Canuck can stop calling my people corrupt

 

[Inquisitive_]

This thread personifies the issues with Somalia, you have a group of people trying to drum up a Darood Utopia dream thas never existed in history ever.

Somalia has moved on from this Qabiil block to interest based groups, the idea that there ever was a HAG or a Darood unity was nothing more then a mere myth.

The region is split between the China-Turkey-Qatar-Saudi Axis block of development against the pro-destruction Anti development camp of America-UAE-Eritrea Axis

In the development camps are currently Ethiopia, Kenya and the current Somali government, and with the parasite destruction camp are the S/land and P/land pawns

This election is purely between those two Axis and has absolutely nothing to do with clan, and because the pro destruction camp happens to back CC, who had a great chance of winning

The Pro development camp are countering Xidig as a speaker to rule out the threat of CC UAE Axis, because Ethiopia no longer has the same influence of P/land as it did before

Neither S/land due to UAE pivot of both, best friends have now turned into foes due to geopolitics, because the UAE-America-Eritrea axis is waging a war on Ethiopia and developments in the region.

This whole Darood malarky or HAG boogie man stuff is just a fruitless exercise of pissing into the winds, no one is discussing this outside of the Fadhi ku dirir online dupe lunatic circles, to anyone with a brain, they would simply laugh at this.

 

[Duchess]

This thread personifies the issues with Somalia, you have a group of people trying to drum up a Darood Utopia dream thas never existed in history ever.

Somalia has moved on from this Qabiil block to interest based groups, the idea that there ever was a HAG or a Darood unity was nothing more then a mere myth.

The region is split between the China-Turkey-Qatar-Saudi Axis block of development against the pro-destruction Anti development camp of America-UAE-Eritrea Axis

In the development camps are currently Ethiopia, Kenya and the current Somali government, and with the parasite destruction camp are the S/land and P/land pawns

This election is purely between those two Axis and has absolutely nothing to do with clan, and because the pro destruction camp happens to back CC, who had a great chance of winning

The Pro development camp are countering Xidig as a speaker to rule out the threat of CC UAE Axis, because Ethiopia no longer has the same influence of P/land as it did before

Neither S/land due to UAE pivot of both, best friends have now turned into foes due to geopolitics, because the UAE-America-Eritrea axis is waging a war on Ethiopia and developments in the region.

This whole Darood malarky or HAG boogie man stuff is just a fruitless exercise of pissing into the winds, no one is discussing this outside of the Fadhi ku dirir online dupe lunatic circles, to anyone with a brain, they would simply laugh at this.

How coincidental! Your beloved qabil happens to conveniently fall in to the "pro development" camp while your enemies are in the "pro destruction" camp.

 

[merka]

This thread personifies the issues with Somalia, you have a group of people trying to drum up a Darood Utopia dream thas never existed in history ever.

Somalia has moved on from this Qabiil block to interest based groups, the idea that there ever was a HAG or a Darood unity was nothing more then a mere myth.

The region is split between the China-Turkey-Qatar-Saudi Axis block of development against the pro-destruction Anti development camp of America-UAE-Eritrea Axis

In the development camps are currently Ethiopia, Kenya and the current Somali government, and with the parasite destruction camp are the S/land and P/land pawns

This election is purely between those two Axis and has absolutely nothing to do with clan, and because the pro destruction camp happens to back CC, who had a great chance of winning

The Pro development camp are countering Xidig as a speaker to rule out the threat of CC UAE Axis, because Ethiopia no longer has the same influence of P/land as it did before

Neither S/land due to UAE pivot of both, best friends have now turned into foes due to geopolitics, because the UAE-America-Eritrea axis is waging a war on Ethiopia and developments in the region.

This whole Darood malarky or HAG boogie man stuff is just a fruitless exercise of pissing into the winds, no one is discussing this outside of the Fadhi ku dirir online dupe lunatic circles, to anyone with a brain, they would simply laugh at this.

Cool story bro

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

You are the lowly one and it's those with your disgusting mentality who are cancer to the Somali people and Somalia.

4.5 gave your people undue influence on Somali politics, it is going away and with it your people's representation in parliament. Your people are claiming my land in Gedo and Juboyinka and that is a big no no. You and your Oromo-like people will be shown the door soon enough, inshallah.

 

[Inquisitive_]

How coincidental! Your beloved qabil happens to conveniently fall in to the "pro development" camp while your enemies are in the "pro destruction" camp.

I know it's hard for you to fathom in your limited rational confines, but I don't operate on tribe, in fact my very own one was split a few months ago into the destruction camp that I shun so much and I distanced myself from.

I have no problem to personally murder every single one of my clan members if they fell into disbelief or become traitors and advocates for the destruction of other Somali's, that's the difference between us.

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

I know it's hard for you to fathom in your limited rational confines, but I don't operate on tribe, in fact my very own one was split a few months ago into the destruction camp that I shun so much and I distanced myself from.

I have no problem to personally murder every single one of my clan members if they fell into disbelief or become traitors and advocates for the destruction of other Somali's, that's the difference between us.

What is your clan?

 

[Duchess]

I know it's hard for you to fathom in your limited rational confines, but I don't operate on tribe, in fact my very own one was split a few months ago into the destruction camp that I shun so much and I distanced myself from.

I have no problem to personally murder every single one of my clan members if they fell into disbelief or become traitors and advocates for the destruction of other Somali's, that's the difference between us.

The difference between us is that I am unapologetically qabilist, while you hide behind euphemisms and conspiracy theories to push your qabilist narrative. One of us is honest, the other is a vermin.

 

[Duchess]

What is your clan?

-He supports HSM and the current gov but hates Omar Abdirashid
- He claims PL & SL are "pro destruction" but the SFG is "pro development"
- He thinks Darod should be regulated to the Speaker position and anything else is anti development

Take a wild guess.

 

[Mudug-Madman]

I was thinking about this for a while now, but I think it won't work. There is a reason why everyone sees the speaker position as being lower. The speaker can only set the agenda, he cannot dictate his decisions like the PM or the President. It would be a terrible blow to drop to third place especially during this upcoming 4 year cycle when so much is on the table. Do not for a second think that D&M will work with Darod on anything. They absolutely despise Darod, and will always side with Hawiye in a dispute. They hate us for looking down on them and feel a power trip when they remove a Darod president or PM. They are a lowly people (sab) who have been given undue power because of their minority status in the eyes of the IC. If a D&M becomes president, the PM will without any doubt be Hawiye.

We should make it clear that we will go for the presidency and the leadership of the senate, it sets a bad precedent for us to accept anything less. Remember, we own 2 of the 6 federal states, and live in 11 of the 18 gobols, accepting the PM position was enough of a downgrade. Any Darod who runs for speaker deserves a bullet in the forehead because we are basically guaranteed either the presidency or the PM otherwise.

Then maybe the lesson in all of this is that we should lose the superiority complex. Have you ever thought of that? You say they despise us cause we look down on them, well no shit, that's a valid reason to despise someone. What are they supposed to do, say thank you?

Maybe when we start treating them like equals, they'll be more likely to work with us.

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

-He supports HSM and the current gov but hates Omar Abdirashid
- He claims PL & SL are "pro destruction" but the SFG is "pro development"
- He thinks Darod should be regulated to the Speaker position and anything else is anti development

Take a wild guess.

 

[Inquisitive_]

-He supports HSM and the current gov but hates Omar Abdirashid
- He claims PL & SL are "pro destruction" but the SFG is "pro development"
- He thinks Darod should be regulated to the Speaker position and anything else is anti development

Take a wild guess.

I have no idea were you got this from, I do not support HSM at all, and as I said before which clan gets what I do not care about, I care more about the geopolitical ramifications.

I look at this from a long term perspective, not some short-term useless clannish outlook that neither you nor the purported clan ever benefits from, I know this is very hard for you to fathom in those small secluded rational confines in that brain.

But many of us think far beyond whatever that peanut sized brain of yours could every conjure up.

You would be far better served challenging my original premises, if you want to have a fruitful discussions, otherwise, this will be the last time I will respond to you, I have no time for this.

 

[Abdalla]

We should be cold and calculating. The scenario in the OP is a very possible scenario. We have been in this circus because the parliament is a weak one, ruled by cuqdad ridden folks that always oppose us. I don't care about meaningless PM position and a lame duck as a president. Let those allies vie for the same seat and they will become bitter rivals.

@Hutu's, this is how we Puntlanders debate. We talk about scenario's and look into the future. Don't behave like small minded peasants and reply with petty accusations. This strategy might be a game chamger. It's a risky one, I admit but if done clinically we can put the political rivals in a permanent sleep.

 

[Tenacious]

brain dead ogadeen have always been our biggest liability.
unfortunately they always seem to become empowered and f*ck things up at the most crucial moment

In what way are we braindead?

 

[Galaeri]

I have no idea were you got this from, I do not support HSM at all, and as I said before which clan gets what I do not care about, I care more about the geopolitical ramifications.

I look at this from a long term perspective, not some short-term useless clannish outlook that neither you nor the purported clan ever benefits from, I know this is very hard for you to fathom in those small secluded rational confines in that brain.

But many of us think far beyond whatever that peanut sized brain of yours could every conjure up.

You would be far better served challenging my original premises, if you want to have a fruitful discussions, otherwise, this will be the last time I will respond to you, I have no time for this.

Smooth?

 

[chairman]

What is your clan?

He's a schizophrenic habar gidir who regularly posts longwinded conspiracy theories on somnet.
He believes the world powers are plotting gainst his mooriyan clan because they are the only true Somali nationalists kkk

 

[Canuck]

Several new MP's already spotted with General Gabre. Koonfur Galbeed MP's among others are being pressured. Ethiopia is fully backing HSM.

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

I have no idea were you got this from, I do not support HSM at all, and as I said before which clan gets what I do not care about, I care more about the geopolitical ramifications.

I look at this from a long term perspective, not some short-term useless clannish outlook that neither you nor the purported clan ever benefits from, I know this is very hard for you to fathom in those small secluded rational confines in that brain.

But many of us think far beyond whatever that peanut sized brain of yours could every conjure up.

You would be far better served challenging my original premises, if you want to have a fruitful discussions, otherwise, this will be the last time I will respond to you, I have no time for this.

Sxb, we see through your bullshit a mile away. Long term perspective my ass.

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

We should be cold and calculating. The scenario in the OP is a very possible scenario. We have been in this circus because the parliament is a weak one, ruled by cuqdad ridden folks that always oppose us. I don't care about meaningless PM position and a lame duck as a president. Let those allies vie for the same seat and they will become bitter rivals.

@Hutu's, this is how we Puntlanders debate. We talk about scenario's and look into the future. Don't behave like small minded peasants and reply with petty accusations. This strategy might be a game chamger. It's a risky one, I admit but if done clinically we can put the political rivals in a permanent sleep.

I get your point sxb, but what power does a speaker have? Calasow or any president can easily bribe the MPs to stop anything passing.

 

[Hemaal]

Kkkkkkkk
I see no difference between cleaner and Speaker's position