Confederations don’t work

[Periplus]

No system will work

It will.

We need to have American style federalism and the government should offer tax benefits to any Somali that moves to a region in which their qabiil is a minority.

This will incentivise Somalis to move to cities in which their qabiil is not dominant to the point that each city will become a mixed city.

Then the government should institute legislation stating that a qabiil cannot make up any more than 30% of Xamars population.

Qabiil will exist but qabiilism will die.

Anyone who does not support this supports qabiilism which is condemned by our prophet SAW.

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

It will.

We need to have American style federalism and the government should offer tax benefits to any Somali that moves to a region in which their qabiil is a minority.

This will incentivise Somalis to move to cities in which their qabiil is not dominant to the point that each city will become a mixed city.

Then the government should institute legislation stating that a qabiil cannot make up any more than 30% of Xamars population.

Qabiil will exist but qabiilism will die.

Anyone who does not support this supports qabiilism which is condemned by our prophet SAW.

So you want to mix even the 1 qabil majority areas. You’d be creating future conflicts.

 

[Gantaal97]

Tribalism =/= Tribe
Racism =/= Race
Sectarianism =/= Sect

Many of the worlds greatest empires and states were built based on accommodating demands and planning around the requirements of qabiils. The Quraysh became the head and the Ansar their ministers. Is that immoral?

We have to power share and we only have one method of grouping, clans/states.

Arab tribes offer allegiance to whichever family or tribe that's strong enough to unite he people in a particular region or area for example Al saud is from a smaller tribe from Dari'yah tat was able to bring into its fold biggest tribes in that country.

Qabil politics doesn't work in somalia as we can see how dysfunctional the country is. Federalism based on Pre 1980s regions or the current 18 regions is best for the country as that will address what the people and locals needs terms of economy and development

 

[Periplus]

Tribalism =/= Tribe
Racism =/= Race
Sectarianism =/= Sect

Many of the worlds greatest empires and states were built based on accommodating demands and planning around the requirements of qabiils. The Quraysh became the head and the Ansar their ministers. Is that immoral?

We have to power share and we only have one method of grouping, clans/states.

We are talking about the modern day.

 

[Periplus]

So you want to mix even the 1 qabil majority areas. You’d be creating future conflicts.

They ain’t fighting. There aren’t enough of a qabiil in each gobol to even fight.

Furthermore, if one qabiil starts violence in another city, their relatives will face violence in another.

It’s all about creating a stale mate.

 

[Woke1.4rm.Shibis]

If (s)election ain't held soon I know for a fact majority will want a confederal system or out of the union .
The leader of Hizbia D&M party the late sheikh abdulahi said it the best .

I wish hawiye leaders didnt create SYL with the daroods at that time and thought like the Nobel Geledi leader

 

[M.K]

You must be a dog that barks and not bite. Like they say, it is only the ones that make the loudest noise that are the ones with nothing. Meaning if you don't have a state where you dominated, then you'll be against federalism and support centralism. Because that's your only shot.

Nac Nac fuleey. In what country in the world does federal states have their own defence or Foreign minister. You follow the sharci of UK, US or anywhere in western world but acting up when it comes to Somalia.

 

[𐒈𐒈𐒆𐒍]

I don’t know who needs this wake up call but confederations don’t work.

They almost always collapse within 10 years of formation.

Please stop using these “ideas” as politically correct ways to maintain your qabiilist wet dreams.

Thank you.

Somalis had centuries of qabilist wet dream then

We are all in this mess because of colonial forced integration not by free choice wadanis make it seem like. Federalism or confederalism are only solution for to work. I hope not a centralists the only real qabilists and main cause of every conflict in using any means to attack or destroy any other ideology. Self-rule & powersharing is the opposite of Qabyalad and best cure infact.

Colonialists = centralists BTW

 

[Periplus]

Somalis had centuries of qabilist wet dream then

We are all in this mess because of colonial forced integration not by free choice wadanis make it seem like. Federalism or confederalism are only solution for to work. I hope not a centralists the only real qabilists and main cause of every conflict in using any means to attack or destroy any other ideology. Self-rule & powersharing is the opposite of Qabyalad and best cure infact.

Colonialists = centralists BTW

Most of the nations in the world are a colonialist project, yet you don’t see them complaining.

In fact, Somalia is lucky to be a colonial-created country with a homogenous population.

Furthermore, barely anyone is defending centralism on this thread.

 

[Jaale]

@Periplus
What do you think of the EU. It is a confederalist with the aim of a 'ever closer union'. It is not failed and one of the strongest institutions in the world.

 

[Periplus]

@Periplus
What do you think of the EU. It is a confederalist with the aim of a 'ever closer union'. It is not failed and one of the strongest institutions in the world.

The EU is not a confederation as it has too little power as an independent body.

Generally, in a confederation, the governing body has some independent powers. EU barely has any.