Can you be a feminist and a Muslim?

[Afrique]

Those are basic rights we all can agree on minus the abortion part..

Lol I can say I personally wouldn't have one but if someone else chooses to have one I wouldn't be protesting outside the clinic. What are the alternatives? You force them into giving birth and being a crap mum?

 

[Afrique]

A woman so dedicated to her philosophy(feminism), that she didnt choose to get married, have kids and remained in an open relationship with a man isnt a feminist according to our resident intellectual Afrique. A woman who is literally an icon of feminism and one of the greatest if not greatest contributors of feminist works isnt a feminist

Jean-Paul Sartre was also a philosopher, wh didn't choose to get married, have kids and remained in an open relationship with a woman, does that make him a male rights activist?

There are feminists who have kids and get married. I even know a married feminist with kids who is a male. You're a fool who is too ignorant to know he is one.

 

[Abdisamad]

Lol I can say I personally wouldn't have one but if someone else chooses to have one I wouldn't be protesting outside the clinic. What are the alternatives? You force them into giving birth and being a crap mum?

That's why we as muslims should avoid zina maybe in cases where rape is involved or if the mothers life is in danger only then would abortion make sense, but if you are fooling around and killing your babies like nothing then that is very wrong in my opinion.. If you are capable of having a relationship then you should be capable of taking the responsibility that follows.. If you can't take care of the baby then you can always give it up for adoption..

 

[Afrique]

That's why we as muslims should avoid zina maybe in cases where rape is involved or if the mothers life is in danger only then would abortion make sense, but if you are fooling around and killing your babies like nothing then that is very wrong in my opinion.. If you are capable of having a relationship then you should be capable of taking the responsibility that follows.. If you can't take care of the baby then you can always give it up for adoption..

That's true, I think some people in society use it as contraception which is sick. Anyways would you describe yourself as feminist?

 

[Genesis]

That's why we as muslims should avoid zina maybe in cases where rape is involved or if the mothers life is in danger only then would abortion make sense, but if you are fooling around and killing your babies like nothing then that is very wrong in my opinion.. If you are capable of having a relationship then you should be capable of taking the responsibility that follows.. If you can't take care of the baby then you can always give it up for adoption..

It is poor people that tend to get more abortions, as they are aware they are not ready financially/mentally to raise a child. Also, it has been proven that allowing women to have abortions leads to a reduction in youth crime rates, as there are fewer stupid parents raising children.

Abortion should be a human right

 

[Abdisamad]

That's true, I think some people in society use it as contraception which is sick. Anyways would you describe yourself as feminist?

Only if you demand this in exchange for your meher... Jk..

I respect women rights within the boundaries of islam, but I'm not a feminist.

 

[Abdisamad]

It is poor people that tend to get more abortions, as they are aware they are not ready financially/mentally to raise a child. Also, it has been proven that allowing women to have abortions leads to a reduction in youth crime rates, as there are fewer stupid parents raising children.

Abortion should be a human right

We have to follow islam and stop committing zina, then you won't need to justify killing unborn babies.

 

[Guure]

Really depends on what kind of feminism i guess, original feminism and first wave? Which was about ending womens suffrage and giving them the ability to vote and other legal liberties. You can be believe women aint second class citizens and still be a muslim.

 

[kickz]

I respect women rights within the boundaries of islam, but I'm not a feminist.

^Same, these labels change as time goes, Islam doesn't.

 

[Cyrus]

Jean-Paul Sartre was also a philosopher, wh didn't choose to get married, have kids and remained in an open relationship with a woman, does that make him a male rights activist?

There are feminists who have kids and get married. I even know a married feminist with kids who is a male. You're a fool who is too ignorant to know he is one.

Im gland you recanted your ludicrous claim that De Beauvior didnt consider herself a feminist

Dont make baseless claims and hope that u can get away with it again

 

[Afrique]

Only if you demand this in exchange for your meher... Jk..

I respect women rights within the boundaries of islam, but I'm not a feminist.

Some of the rights afforded to women in Islam are seen as far left in the West. Such as the man paying all of the bills and the concepts of the meher. My cadan friends are very envious lol.

 

[Genesis]

We have to follow islam and stop committing zina, then you won't need to justify killing unborn babies.

But they are not babies, in the first 2 months, it is just a small ball of cells, it doesn't have any brain activity or consciousness.

Instead of dooming the mother and child to a life of poverty, where the child is statistically far more likely to become a criminal, simply take a 10-minute abortion procedure which will save the parent 18 years of misery.

 

[Apollo]

Feminism isn't one ideology. It is multiple different ideologies grouped together. Sort of like socialism, nationalism, capitalism, environmentalism etc. It can differ a lot depending on the version.

 

[Abdisamad]

Some of the rights afforded to women in Islam are seen as far left in the West. Such as the man paying all of the bills and the concepts of the meher. My cadan friends are very envious lol.

Thank god for islam.. It's even worse in hindu culture where the woman has to pay the man.

 

[Afrique]

But they are not babies, in the first 2 months, it is just a small ball of cells, it doesn't have any brain activity or consciousness.

Instead of dooming the mother and child to a life of poverty, where the child is statistically far more likely to become a criminal, simply take a 10-minute abortion procedure which will save the parent 18 years of misery.

that’s true but it has the potential to be a human If it’s left alone that’s what makes it so difficult.

 

[Genesis]

that’s true but it has the potential to be a human If it’s left alone that’s what makes it more difficult.

Every sperm cell released by a teenager masturbating has the potential to become a human, but that doesn't mean it's good for the world if it becomes a reality.

The fact is, abortions make the world a better place.

 

[Abdisamad]

But they are not babies, in the first 2 months, it is just a small ball of cells, it doesn't have any brain activity or consciousness.

Instead of dooming the mother and child to a life of poverty, where the child is statistically far more likely to become a criminal, simply take a 10-minute abortion procedure which will save the parent 18 years of misery.

Avoid zina and if you can't control your urges get married and own up to your responsibility.. Being poor is no excuse for abortion.. I would never impregnate a woman and run off like a coward I'll do anything in my power to support and provide for her and the child, this is what I believe and it's part of my life principle.

 

[Abdisamad]

that’s true but it has the potential to be a human If it’s left alone that’s what makes it so difficult.

As I see it a child is a gift from Allah.

 

[Afrique]

Every sperm cell released by a teenager masturbating has the potential to become a human, but that doesn't mean it's good for the world if it becomes a reality.

The fact is, abortions make the world a better place.

not really. In the case of the fetus the egg has already been fertilised. It requires injections to kill it and the doctor to drag it out of the womb using instruments. Let’s not pretend an abortion is like having a wank walal. You’re being dishonest with yourself.

 

[Afrique]

As I see it a child is a gift from Allah.

yes a child like @Furioso is a gift. I don’t know what you would call @The Good though.