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Absolutely nothing you wrote has anything to do with wahabism or the pathetic state of the Somali community. This Salafi/"Wahabi" slander is just another fat cope completely detached from the reality on the ground.

Gender wars are a symptom of community dysfunction, poverty and liberalism. Somalis suffer from all 3 and therefore have the worst inter-gender issues.

I wasn't saying having control of your family is good or bad - and it absolutely is good. I'm just saying they don't.
Poverty contributes to the disfunction yes, but Liberalism in the sense that women should have equal rights does not. Do you believe since becoming more conservative Somalia has made the lives of men and women better?

Wahabism is oppressive to women. It is an idealogy that was promoted by the British in order to take influence away from the Ottoman empire. It was made specifically to make it easier to create radical groups that would help destabilise countries and uphold western imperialism. Wahabism is not conducive to a healthy society. It promotes extreme thinking and will never allow for healthy debates on economics or social issues that help provide stability to a country.
 
Poverty contributes to the disfunction yes, but Liberalism in the sense that women should have equal rights does not. Do you believe since becoming more conservative Somalia has made the lives of men and women better?

Wahabism is oppressive to women. It is an idealogy that was promoted by the British in order to take influence away from the Ottoman empire. It was made specifically to make it easier to create radical groups that would help destabilise countries and uphold western imperialism. Wahabism is not conducive to a healthy society. It promotes extreme thinking and will never allow for healthy debates on economics or social issues that help provide stability to a country.

You drank the kool-aid. Pakistanis, Bengalis, Indians, and Arabs are socially far more conservative. They are also far more oppressive to their women, but they don't have a fraction of the gender dysfunction we have. They have money and their integrity intact.

Their women aren't anywhere near as drawn to liberalism and hardline feminism as Somali women are because they have functioning communities. Do you know who else faces that issue? African-Americans. They are the most gender-equal and liberal group of people out there. Hell, their women are mandem in spirit, not much unlike ours.

Religious conservatives and the deen is the only thing that stops us from descending into sub-human barbarity. Without it, Somalia would be Jamaica meets Thailand, and the Somali diaspora would be no different than the Afro-Caribbean communities in the West, if not outright worse.
 
You drank the kool-aid. Pakistanis, Bengalis, Indians, and Arabs are socially far more conservative. They are also far more oppressive to their women, but they don't have a fraction of the gender dysfunction we have. They have money and their integrity intact.

Their women aren't anywhere near as drawn to liberalism and hardline feminism as Somali women are because they have functioning communities. Do you know who else faces that issue? African-Americans. They are the most gender-equal and liberal group of people out there. Hell, their women are mandem in spirit, not much unlike ours.

Religious conservatives and the deen is the only thing that stops us from descending into sub-human barbarity. Without it, Somalia would be Jamaica meets Thailand, and the Somali diaspora would be no different than the Afro-Caribbean communities in the West, if not outright worse.
There's plenty of secular/non-religious/non-muslim Somalis that conduct themselves with class out there you know. If anything, its the crazed conservatives that embarrass us the most :rolleyes:
 
Ikr? They think we are backwards savages
WiThouT IsLam YoU wOulD bE bArBariaNs! :rolleyes: I can't stand that crowd wallahi. Is Iman, Ayan Hirsi ali, Sada Mire trashy? No, they're all classy, eloquent women who give us a good image, unlike the ones running around joining ISIS
 

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WiThouT IsLam YoU wOulD bE bArBariaNs! :rolleyes: I can't stand that crowd wallahi
As if lmao. I still would have my current morals with or without religion. It takes intelligence, brains and manners to behave well, religion may influence it but it 100% isn’t responsible for the way idiots act. Monkeys will act like monkeys no matter what clothes wear. Somalis back home are a prime example off it lmao
 
Women will be women. Doesn’t matter which ethnicity that woman comes from and Somali women are no different they can marry whoever they want. We don’t care, reporting it makes it seem like we do though so let them explore it’s only fair because we’ve been marrying ajanbis for centuries
 
There's plenty of secular/non-religious/non-muslim Somalis that conduct themselves with class out there you know. If anything, its the crazed conservatives that embarrass us the most :rolleyes:

You can see how Somalis behave while complaining about how oppressive and overbearing the Somali community is in terms of judgement and expectations. It doesn't take a genius to figure out how much worse it would be with approval from the community. You're lying to yourself if you think we wouldn't be carbon copies of demographically similar communities.

Of course, to you, there is no difference between being a regular practising Muslim and running off to blow yourself up in the middle east because that's what it means to be conservative.

As if lmao. I still would have my current morals with or without religion. It takes intelligence, brains and manners to behave well, religion may influence it but it 100% isn’t responsible for the way idiots act. Monkeys will act like monkeys no matter what clothes wear. Somalis back home are a prime example off it lmao

You can be irreligious and behave well, but Islam categorically disavows plenty of poor behaviour that would otherwise completely overrun the community. Blatantly, it doesn't stop many from still participating, but you're being disingenuous by implying it doesn't leash the lower common denominators. It's not about individual behavior, but the collective behavior of the community. People still sin, but it's better to sin in private than public because the latter erodes those around you.
 
You drank the kool-aid. Pakistanis, Bengalis, Indians, and Arabs are socially far more conservative. They are also far more oppressive to their women, but they don't have a fraction of the gender dysfunction we have. They have money and their integrity intact.

Their women aren't anywhere near as drawn to liberalism and hardline feminism as Somali women are because they have functioning communities. Do you know who else faces that issue? African-Americans. They are the most gender-equal and liberal group of people out there. Hell, their women are mandem in spirit, not much unlike ours.

Religious conservatives and the deen is the only thing that stops us from descending into sub-human barbarity. Without it, Somalia would be Jamaica meets Thailand, and the Somali diaspora would be no different than the Afro-Caribbean communities in the West, if not outright worse.
South Asians and Arabs are very connected to their culture and do not suffer from identity issues as much as Somalis do and from my anecdotal experiences are more monogamous hence more money. They also have a more hands on parenting strategy than somalis who still use the hands off aproach.

The war has also had an effect on people and has led a lot of somalis growing up to develop self hatred and identity issues. Somalis that suffer from identity crises tend to gravitate towards more radical idealogies like SJW types and wahabism.

Somali women in the past grew up walking around without hijabs where as now women are forced to wear niqabs. This much change in such a short amount of time has had an effect on the way the sexes interact and has bred more extremism in both directions.

Liberalism is not the problem here.
Asking for equal womens rights does not equal SJW behavior that leads to sub-human barbarity. Liberals arent blowing themselves up and killing innocents, its Wahabis. Whatever happens in Somalia has an effect on the Diaspora. Saying i've drunk the kool aid is The Black and white thinking that is cause of the fighting between Wahabis and Feminist somalis online. As for the black community in America they are irrelavant as the conversation is about radical Islam, stop using them as the benchmark for depravity. Focus on shaming Al shabab not feminists on twitter!
 
Ayan Hirsi is trash
She's still much more accomplished (got into dutch parliament as a first gen refugee, worked for several well known think tanks, published many books) than the avg habar with suugo stained diracs who shamelessly steals public funds while screaming about Islamnimo :rolleyes:
 
She's still much more accomplished (got into dutch parliament as a first gen refugee, worked for several well known think tanks, published many books) than the avg habar with suugo stained diracs who shamelessly steals public funds while screaming about Islamnimo :rolleyes:
Isn’t she an atheist? And you call that accomplishment?
 
You can see how Somalis behave while complaining about how oppressive and overbearing the Somali community is in terms of judgement and expectations. It doesn't take a genius to figure out how much worse it would be with approval from the community. You're lying to yourself if you think we wouldn't be carbon copies of demographically similar communities.

Of course, to you, there is no difference between being a regular practising Muslim and running off to blow yourself up in the middle east because that's what it means to be conservative.



You can be irreligious and behave well, but Islam categorically disavows plenty of poor behaviour that would otherwise completely overrun the community. Blatantly, it doesn't stop many from still participating, but you're being disingenuous by implying it doesn't leash the lower common denominators. It's not about individual behavior, but the collective behavior of the community. People still sin, but it's better to sin in private than public because the latter erodes those around you.
I'm not, actually. Don't project your poor impulse control on other Somalis. We civilised ones don't need to rely on some religion to be respectable citizens :camby:
 
She's still much more accomplished (got into dutch parliament as a first gen refugee, worked for several well known think tanks, published many books) than the avg habar with suugo stained diracs who shamelessly steals public funds while screaming about Islamnimo :rolleyes:
Off topic but who is that lady in your profile? Is she an actress
 

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