I know exactly where your coming from and your dog in this fight, by looking at your 1st response in this post, let's set that aside and answer your question yes I've seeing dugsis back in the motherland since I've been there quite a few times, and there is no willingness on the part of the kids they are forced physically to learn about the diinta and if your going to say no they are not forced to learn diinta then you straight up lying, and me mentioning the bookorad is very valid are you saying there is no physical abuse going on in Somali dugsis? And you and chicken are both confusing discipline for fear, these kids have no clue about what constitutes discipline, confusing discipline and punishment, Kulaha willingness and discipline.
Second so I'm your people when it suits you ? and not the filthy atheist swine ?
Anyway have a good read >>>
http://www.education.com/reference/article/discipline-punishment/