BREAKING NEWS: Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and (possibly) UAE cut all diplomatic ties with Qatar

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Bahal

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f*ck Qatar, horrible little country.

f*ck the entire sandbox tbqh, hope they nuke each other.
 

TooMacaan

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I will denounce farmaajo if he joins in this shenanigans. We cannot renounce our diplomatic ties with qatar
But how much of a choice does he really have?? It would not be a wise thing to take sides against a ME regional power such as Saudi, which also has the backing of the West and Israel. Qatar is a promising ally, sure, but they are the clear underdogs in this fight; sometimes it is necessary put the interests of ones nation over doing the noble/principled thing. Somalia is not in a position to change the game, and until then, it has to abide by "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em". Realpolitik.

It's a difficult situation either way though tbh. If Farmaajo can somehow manage to lay low and wiggle himself out of this without angering either side ...that will be the most ideal scenario.
 

Gibiin-Udug

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I hope Turkey, Qatar and Iran join forces and nuke these Sand .


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No war or anything they (Saudi/UAE/Egypt) will make small coup inside Qatari royal family and bring back the father to throne or exchange big brother with the current prince. Small note all these gulfs countries are related tribal.
 

Abdalla

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Proxy wars will dial up a notch. May allah protect the poor souls in the cross-hairs of this spat

Any seasoned diplomat would've predicted that any kind of chaos in Yemen would give Iran a loophole to gain influences in Yemen. Instead of being proactive they watched Yemen getting into a civil war and the rest is history. Qatar getting isolated workd in Irans advantage, as they have common ally:Turkey. If things unfold like they way they are, Iran would be knocking on Saudi's doors in terms of influence
 
But how much of a choice does he really have?? It would not be a wise thing to take sides against a ME regional power such as Saudi, which also has the backing of the West and Israel. Qatar is a promising ally, sure, but they are the clear underdogs in this fight; sometimes it is necessary put the interests of ones nation over doing the noble/principled thing. Somalia is not in a position to change the game and until then it has to abide by "if you can't beat them, join 'em". Realpolitik.

It's a difficult situation either way though tbh. If Farmaajo can somehow. manage to lay low and wiggle himself out of this without angering either side ...that will be the most ideal scenario.

They already forced most GCC states to choose a side. We will get Somalia's choice in a few days. UAE won over SA, Egypt, Bahrain, and Jordan with more states endorsing them on the way. Yes, you're right in that in this messy situation it's not wise to go against a regional power in Suadi Arabia, but we can't ignore all the help Qatar/Turkey bloc did for us the past few years. UAE has its own Somali militia that reports only to them and have their own designs on Somalia and imho, we are done if farmaajo runs to their arms.

What hangs in the balance for us is whether or not Saudi Arabia will bring back the livestock ban and forgiving our 2 billion dollar debt if we choose Qatar. This will weigh heavily on Farmaajo's mind when he makes a decision.

Our national interest vs our short-term recovery
 
They already forced most GCC states to choose a side. We will get Somalia's choice in a few days. UAE won over SA, Egypt, Bahrain, and Jordan with more states endorsing them on the way. Yes, you're right in that in this messy situation it's not wise to go against a regional power in Suadi Arabia, but we can't ignore all the help Qatar/Turkey bloc did for us the past few years. UAE has its own Somali militia that reports only to them and have their own designs on Somalia and imho, we are done if farmaajo runs to their arms.

What hangs in the balance for us is whether or not Saudi Arabia will bring back the livestock ban and forgiving our 2 billion dollar debt if we choose Qatar. This will weigh heavily on Farmaajo's mind when he makes a decision.

Our national interest vs our short-term recovery
They can bring back the livestock ban most are dead anyways also where did this 2 billion debt come from
 

shit got real for Somaliland :lolbron:

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UAE up north, Qatar/Turkey down south, u can't make this shit up. I won't be surprised if UAE arm's Somaliland to the teeth and tells the ictiraafiis " hey go fight koonfur ur enemy who massacred u back in the old regime and we'll recognize u and make u rich like us.":mjlol:
 

Bahal

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Strange situation to be in for Somalia, can't go against the West-Saudi axis but beefing with UAE and losing Turkey complicates things
 

TooMacaan

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They already forced most GCC states to choose a side. We will get Somalia's choice in a few days. UAE won over SA, Egypt, Bahrain, and Jordan with more states endorsing them on the way. Yes, you're right in that in this messy situation it's not wise to go against a regional power in Suadi Arabia, but we can't ignore all the help Qatar/Turkey bloc did for us the past few years. UAE has its own Somali militia that reports only to them and have their own designs on Somalia and imho, we are done if farmaajo runs to their arms.

What hangs in the balance for us is whether or not Saudi Arabia will bring back the livestock ban and forgiving our 2 billion dollar debt if we choose Qatar. This will weigh heavily on Farmaajo's mind when he makes a decision.

Our national interest vs our short-term recovery
I think I see what you are saying; if Somalia doesn't act now against UAE/Saudi, those nations will become too powerful to fail and perhaps reach a point where they will not even need Somalia's input anymore. And to prevent them from reaching that status (which is not good for Somalia's national interest), it would be better to stick with Turkey/Qatar...?
If Somalia does choose to side with Qatar on this one, that will be a huge move. We shouldn't undermine the significance of short term recovery though...there is no achieving long term national interests if the immediate issues aren't addressed first and foremost.
The only way I see it working out okay is if Turkey manages to shield Somalia from the inevitable fallout or if Qatar reimbursed any losses that Somalia will likely get from the Saudis.
If it comes down to a vote and Somalia goes pro-Qatar, I don't see KSA taking that lightly tbh...they are convinced that they pull all the strings...they will def see it as a slap in the face and retaliate.
All in all, it's a risk to side with Qatar-- an ambitious risk-- but if Qatar is successful...the pay off will be well worth it (provided Qatar and Turkey acknowledge Somalia's sacrifice and remain loyal to Somalia).
 
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