Before General Morgan, there were the 5 butchers of 1979!

[FBIsomalia]

The source is mentioned above. It is the super professional site called 'allSanaag.com' with this Menu:

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Jeegaan kid, dont bring those rubbish comment of yours in this topic If you have problem on Morgan first bring to justice your own murders that called by you Mujaaheed or who worked with kacaan and take part of massacre of 70s!!. SNM boys did bad things to to reer Awdal and to your still calling them Mujaaheed!!. You will defend them because of Isaaqnimo. Markaas just stick on the topic.

 

[FBIsomalia]

Lol i know many cumar maxamuud who praise siyaad and recognise how good he was until 77. He prevented many deaths in the north by moving them to the South.

Most were moved by Italian after Majeerteeniya kingdom demolish.

 

[redsea]

Why did Majerten do a 360 and become kacaanist so quickly after the massacre

 

[FBIsomalia]

Why did Majerten do a 360 and become kacaanist so quickly after the massacre

Revenge.

 

[Teflon]

For those who don't know, the Kacaan government sent 5 butchers (from North-Western Somalia, guess who?) to ethnically cleanse Majeerteen.

They poisoned our wells, they ordered the rape of our women and they imprisoned our elite.

Their names are:

North Western group:

1. Xasan Tanzania,

2. Axmed Mire,

3. Maxamed Kaahin

4. Dhega weyne

5. Maxamed Nuux


Abudwaq clan

1. Siyad Barre (of course)
2. Colonel Dhiin (has 122 bodies)


NUGAAL:
They burnt more than 250 houses, they destroyed more than 105/barkads? water wells, which they also poisoned and slaughtered many people. Estimates range from 450 to much higher, this included women, children and the elderly.

In the villages of: Kalabayr,Jalam,Eyl,Rab’baalle,Magacley, Mayagaag, Sugulle,Ballidacar,Qamboobley.


MUDUG:

They destroyed more than 1500 houses, 350 barkads and slaughtered more than 800 people, which again, included women, children and the elderly.


Colonel called "Dhiin" (Caabudwaaq) and his troops took 122 teens, elders and Culumo from Abaarey to Bacaadweyne and machine gunned them down.


http://allsanaag.com/xasuuqii-mudug-iyo-nugaal-1979/

 

[Atoore]

Most were moved by Italian after Majeerteeniya kingdom demolish.

sxb majority were brought to the south by siad

 

[FBIsomalia]

sxb majority were brought to the south by siad

Who said to you this info he is lair. How Siad bring them if they were part of Somalia 1960 election from xamar or on the 50s ?. SYL movement was inspired by MJ in xamar when Siad was normal officer.

PS didn't Siad hate MJ and massacre them on nugaal and Mudug. So how did you believe this info?

 

[Crow]

Jeegaan kid, dont bring those rubbish comment of yours in this topic If you have problem on Morgan first bring to justice your own murders that called by you Mujaaheed or who worked with kacaan and take part of massacre of 70s!!. SNM boys did bad things to to reer Awdal and to your still calling them Mujaaheed!!. You will defend them because of Isaaqnimo. Markaas just stick on the topic.

It's no wonder that the founders and leaders of Al Shabaab originate from that khawarij infested region.

 

[SlimFarax]

Firstly, no man who caused as much death in the civil war is alive today as General Morgan, and when Morgan is considered a candidate for presidency in Punt-land and seen as a hero in 2018, it would be like your people seeing Aideed being honoured with a statue in Xamar, it’s an offence beyond belief.

Secondly, it cheapens the atrocities committed against your people, when you celebrate a person who’s killed far more.

If this country wants to have any hope of developing further, warlords and mass murderers need to be condemned, regardless of what tribe they’re from.

Your men commited their atrocities in Mudug years before Morgan started his in Hargeisa

Maxamed Kaahin was well documented for his crimes in Mudug and mentioned in Abdullahi Yusufs memoirs. He was protected by SNM later and is Muse Biixis right hand man today

You don't have the right to act a victim. Hand over your criminals and we'll reciprocate

 

[Awdalia Rising]

Why did Majerten do a 360 and become kacaanist so quickly after the massacre

no backbone

 

[Gadhwayne]

For those who don't know, the Kacaan government sent 5 butchers (from North-Western Somalia, guess who?) to ethnically cleanse Majeerteen.

They poisoned our wells, they ordered the rape of our women and they imprisoned our elite.

Their names are:

North Western group:

1. Xasan Tanzania,

2. Axmed Mire,

3. Maxamed Kaahin

4. Dhega weyne

5. Maxamed Nuux


Abudwaq clan

1. Siyad Barre (of course)
2. Colonel Dhiin (has 122 bodies)


NUGAAL:
They burnt more than 250 houses, they destroyed more than 105/barkads? water wells, which they also poisoned and slaughtered many people. Estimates range from 450 to much higher, this included women, children and the elderly.

In the villages of: Kalabayr,Jalam,Eyl,Rab’baalle,Magacley, Mayagaag, Sugulle,Ballidacar,Qamboobley.


MUDUG:

They destroyed more than 1500 houses, 350 barkads and slaughtered more than 800 people, which again, included women, children and the elderly.


Colonel called "Dhiin" (Caabudwaaq) and his troops took 122 teens, elders and Culumo from Abaarey to Bacaadweyne and machine gunned them down.


http://allsanaag.com/xasuuqii-mudug-iyo-nugaal-1979/

HUMAN LOSS TO SOCIOPATH SIYAD BARRE AND HIS HARGEISA BUTCHERS


2,000 PEOPLE DIED OF THIRST/ POISONED WELL WATER.
NUGAAL: 450 PEOPLE MURDERED
MUDUG: 922 PEOPLE MURDERED

TOTAL ESTIMATE: 3372 +


ESTIMATED FINANCIAL LOSS:


50,000 camels,
10,000 cattle
100,000 sheep and goats.






Never forgive or forget.

@Gibiin-Udug @Finesse @Boqor Quark Boqor Cisman @Yonis @Atoore Baadiye @Tucking_Fypo @Farm @Karim @Ayubi @FBIsomalia @Arma @Abdalla @MSGA @GBTarmy @Abdisamad3 @Jablibax

A terrible thing to have happened, for sure, AUN to all those who died.

But I must question your intentions with this thread, General Morgan killed far more people than these 5, directly with his armies and with the famine he caused. However, no MJ on this forum condemns him, and why? Because he’s one of you, the man is even given a hero’s welcome in Puntland.

Genuinely, I can’t take you seriously. Your intentions are to use this incident as vitriol for your “Puntland independence movement”, not to remember those who lost their lives.

I made this topic to remember the crimes against my people.

Secondly, I cannot stand Siyad Barre's son in law, Morgan.

However, unless your people hand over these 5 butchers, Morgan goes free.

Morgan is irrelevant. MaxamuudSaleebaan bas yaso oo beeshiisa ugu yeedho GAAGAAB.

Firstly, no man who caused as much death in the civil war is alive today as General Morgan, and when Morgan is considered a candidate for presidency in Punt-land and seen as a hero in 2018, it would be like your people seeing Aideed being honoured with a statue in Xamar, it’s an offence beyond belief.

Secondly, it cheapens the atrocities committed against your people, when you celebrate a person who’s killed far more.

If this country wants to have any hope of developing further, warlords and mass murderers need to be condemned, regardless of what tribe they’re from.

Don't worry who ever CusmaanCumarCiise consider GAAGAAB is irrelevant. Morgan is irrelevant

Jeegaan kid, dont bring those rubbish comment of yours in this topic If you have problem on Morgan first bring to justice your own murders that called by you Mujaaheed or who worked with kacaan and take part of massacre of 70s!!. SNM boys did bad things to to reer Awdal and to your still calling them Mujaaheed!!. You will defend them because of Isaaqnimo. Markaas just stick on the topic.

Blame Afweyne for what Afweyne did to CumarMaxamuud.

Isaaq plus antiAfweyne SAMAROON plus antiAfweyne Ciise defeated proAfweyne Samaroon. You're thinking about HY Sanaag chasing Ugaadhyahan out of Sanaag till Ugaadhyahan sought refuge from JS in Laas Caanood maybe the battle of Qoodhe Taag near Xudun. Samaroon and Ciise have no hard feelings with Isaaq. Ugaadhyahan is the most antiIsaaq element in the north still complaining about SNM

 

[Karim]

This is an informative thread about the massacres of Majeerteen in Mudug and Nugaal. However, we don't sob and cry on international TVs like the Jeegans. Difference in ethics and upbringings I guess. Their cretinous criminals are running the Politics of their enclave, criminals like Biixi, Kaahin, etc. While our former warlords are strictly forbidden from participating in our politics. Maybe that's our mistake and Somalia still needs the presence of its warlords. Hawiye also elected Qaybdiid and Suudi Yalaxow to be their representatives in FGS Upper House parliament. We should bring MORGAN back and crown him ASAP. Revival of the old guard.

A terrible thing to have happened, for sure, AUN to all those who died.

But I must question your intentions with this thread, General Morgan killed far more people than these 5, directly with his armies and with the famine he caused. However, no MJ on this forum condemns him, and why? Because he’s one of you, the man is even given a hero’s welcome in Puntland.

Genuinely, I can’t take you seriously. Your intentions are to use this incident as vitriol for your “Puntland independence movement”, not to remember those who lost their lives.

General Morgan wasn't present when the shelling of Hargeisa was going on in 1988. General Gaani was the commander of the operation. Plus, you're deflecting from the topic causing immense distraction from the subject at hand.

 

[Gadhwayne]

This is an informative thread about the massacres of Majeerteen in Mudug and Nugaal. However, we don't sob and cry on international TVs like the Jeegans. Difference in ethics and upbringings I guess. Their cretinous criminals are running the Politics of their enclave, criminals like Biixi, Kaahin, etc. While our former warlords are strictly forbidden from participating in our politics. Maybe that's our mistake and Somalia still needs the presence of its warlords. Hawiye also elected Qaybdiid and Suudi Yalaxow to be their representatives in FGS Upper House parliament. We should bring MORGAN back and crown him ASAP. Revival of the old guard.


General Morgan wasn't present when the shelling of Hargeisa was going on in 1988. General Gaani was the commander of the operation. Plus, you're deflecting from the topic causing immense distraction from the subject at hand.

No body should care which proAfweyne commander did what. And, Morgan waa la yasaa in MajeerteeniyaState. Waxaa loogu yeedhaa GAAGAAB by MaxamuudSaleebaan ruling class of MajeerteeniyaState. But, go ahead if you want make him king of MJ.

Bottom line is all proAfweyne clan militias wearing SNA uniforms either ran away to their MX/OG/QOTIetc. homelands or they were northern proAfweyne who capitulated and signed Burco peace on SNM terms.

So both Isaaq and CumarMaxamuud should give thanks. Afweyne lost despite foreign CAYDH, foreign mercenaries, and he also promised to join them in prayer to Ciisa caleyhi salaam if Masiixis gave him CAYDH against SNM mujaahidiin

 

[Karim]

No body should care which proAfweyne commander did what. And, Morgan waa la yasaa in MajeerteeniyaState. Waxaa loogu yeedhaa GAAGAAB by MaxamuudSaleebaan ruling class of MajeerteeniyaState. But, go ahead if you want make him king of MJ.

Bottom line is all proAfweyne clan militias wearing SNA uniforms either ran away to their MX/OG/QOTIetc. homelands or they were northern proAfweyne who capitulated and signed Burco peace on SNM terms.

So both Isaaq and CumarMaxamuud should give thanks. Afweyne lost despite foreign CAYDH, foreign mercenaries, and he also promised to join them in prayer to Ciisa caleyhi salaam if Masiixis gave him CAYDH against SNM mujaahidiin

"Nobody should care what proAfweyne commander did"... Your people CARE and utter their disdain for Morgan and Gaani on their boring 1988 anniversaries lmao. Crying over 30 year old graveyards.

Don't tell me that you "DON'T CARE" what the guy did.

 

[Gadhwayne]

"Nobody should care what proAfweyne commander did"... Your people CARE and utter their disdain for Morgan and Gaani on their boring 1988 anniversaries lmao. Crying over 30 year old graveyards.

Don't tell me that you "DON'T CARE" what the guy did.

Not at all. And, I think citizens of MajeeeteeniyaState don't care if a patriotic Isaaq guy wacks Morgan. Morgan is irrelevant I think he even failed in the early protoStatehood days of Majeerteeniya state. Something like he capitulated to HG/MX? NonIsaaq imagine northern inependence is about IsaaqGenocide.

http://www.somalilandlaw.com/Somaliland_Act_of_Union.htm

It's not. Read the 1960 Law of Union passed by the north. Morgan plus Masiixi CAYDH Afweyne recieved for Afweyne promising to join Masiixis on prayer to Ciisa caleyhi salaam are IRRELEVANT. SNM won

 

[Karim]

Not at all. And, I think citizens of MajeeeteeniyaState don't care if a patriotic Isaaq guy wacks Morgan. Morgan is irrelevant I think he even failed in the early protoStatehood days of Majeerteeniya state. Something like he capitulated to HG/MX? NonIsaaq imagine northern inependence is about IsaaqGenocide.

http://www.somalilandlaw.com/Somaliland_Act_of_Union.htm

It's not. Read the 1960 Law of Union passed by the north. Morgan plus Masiixi CAYDH Afweyne recieved for Afweyne promising to join Masiixis on prayer to Ciisa caleyhi salaam are IRRELEVANT. SNM won

To whom should we believe then?!! Your people that flock to 1988 graveyards for their yearly sobbing sessions or you?!!

Plus MORGAN is Majeerteen, end of story. He's a hero that defended Harti interests in Kismayo for a decade. Your futile attempts in belittling his sub clan is pointless.

 

[Gadhwayne]

To whom should we believe then?!! Your people that flock to 1988 graveyards for their yearly sobbing sessions or you?!!

Plus MORGAN is Majeerteen, end of story. He's a hero that defended Harti interests in Kismayo for a decade. Your futile attempts in belittling his sub clan is pointless.

You tried to divide Isaaq into so-called Jeegan and others remember?

1988 has nothing to do with the stupid Northern independence movement. Isaaq can't go to proAfweyne Dhulbahante and say "gee guys let's leave the union because Afweyne used foreign mercenaries against Isaaq while he promised Masiixis he would join them in prayer to Ciisa caleyhi salaam if they give him him military CAYDH against Isaaq"

The justification for leaving the union is 1960s Act of Union hasn't been RATIFIED by the south and the south underrepresented the WHOLE north and similar themes.

Also, Morgan is irrelevant in clan politics. He barely represented MJ against MX/HG he never represented Dhulbahante or Warsangali or OG or any other Janarti clan like legendary Ciise AlJabarti. The Isaaq patriot who brings Morgan to justice will barely be noticed by the great Cismaan/Ciise/Cumar triumverate. In fact, Morgan is so irrelevant that there might not be an Isaaq patriot looking to bring him to justice

 

[Exodus]

Your men commited their atrocities in Mudug years before Morgan started his in Hargeisa

Maxamed Kaahin was well documented for his crimes in Mudug and mentioned in Abdullahi Yusufs memoirs. He was protected by SNM later and is Muse Biixis right hand man today

You don't have the right to act a victim. Hand over your criminals and we'll reciprocate

I’m not Isaaq.

 

[SlimFarax]

I’m not Isaaq.

It doesnt matter what u are. Clearly ur disposed to calaacal about one side whilst ignoring what the others do.

 

[Marsin]

US study in communist 'era' is reliable to you? that's like saying 'rasmussen' is reliable poll and not polling only 'segments' they view favorable to Trump lol. This is 79 with the cold-war at it's height. America was penetrating each region that was a commy ally to stop the spread of this new idealogy that couldn't threaten the fabric of it's society.

They directly established rebel groups in Afghanistan like the Taliban or indirectly like Somalia by watching two commy states go at it sending rebel groups to each other. They saw this region 'self mutiliating itself' and must of been sitting back and laughing when doing it's reports. They were following Henry Kissinger(jewish advisor) at the time strategy to knock out the 'allies' one by one based on how 'weak' they were inside(especially newer nations) not china-russia types to bring the soviet global axis to an end to the point they carved the shit up in eastern europe/balkans with neither ever recovering and poor, weak, and worse off then under commy russia. They got Russia caged to a fuckin 100 meters of it's neighborhood.

They got Jap-South koreans as an American axis on China. They looking at 'taiwan' as the last to rape and say 'we got your ass in the sea' also China. All over what so a bunch of 'rich capitalist' can continue abusing 'deregulated markets' as their used to 'slave labor' of the past and hate paying workers is all it's about waryaa. Now Grow up are you capitalist or communist? I am not sure what I am anymore as my family benefited the most from siyad communism, I've yet to see any direct benefit from capitalism at a local level that's for sure beyond the HUUURAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH MEDIA SHIT you see

Oh god I just went philosophical. To deep for Spotters

But I saw way more benefits and indirect benefits of communism and siyad policy touch my 'personal' nomadic background family origins cause the policy is geared to people like me the under-class then I ever saw our lives change under old aristocrat, elite, big ciidaan, big territory, royal class with 300 years worth of capital, knowledge, political class developed. Wa hadi xaqiiq loo hadlayo, insult the commies for all u want but I am real life living example of the product of communist leader policy, now u show me the product of capitalist/elitist/maxamud salebanist type of leader policy in Somalia?