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[Idilinaa]

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"Mask"
In your previous post you also claimed I am an CadCad myself.

You need to get some help.

Don't bother quoting me, as I am placing you on ignore, you bizarre person.

I genuinely don’t know who or what you are.

My point was simple, unless you’re from or tied to the group you constantly hyper fixate on, especially while calling yourself 'Puntland Queen' it comes off as odd.

If anything, that kind of obsession says more about you than me.

 

[Wabari]

 

[Angelina]

Let me tell you the biggest issue and I’m going to have some attack me here. Ethnic Somalis are filled with hatred towards each other and many would rather foreigners take credit than a Somali from a different qabil. I’ve literally heard Daroods and Isaaqs doubt that Xamar was led by Abgaals or Hawiyes in general. Anti dark skin sentiments are also rife with footo madow when the average Isaaq and Darood is also dark skin. I also don’t think Hawiyes are innocent in all this as well. But I’m being honest here. If we tear each other down ultimately WE Somalis regardless of tribe will look like fools because on the world stage we are all the same. The same people who are trying to claim the history of Xamar are also trying to claim the history of Zeila.

 

[Garsoore]

Is his IQ in the sub 10 digits or ragebaiting? He swore by Allah

 

[novanova]

Is his IQ in the sub 10 digits or ragebaiting? He swore by Allah

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL saan me ku fiyowyihin?

 

[Riftvalley]

If ther model was that Somalis were under Oman influence in the late 1800s and the towns and trade was dominated by them. Its pretty weird that you have the descendants of pasotralist somali traders who moved to Oman 200-300 years being highly influential business and polticil elites in the country

The Omanis definitely had some of the coastal towns under their influence at some points in recent pre colonial history. Where the recent historical revisionist go wrong is the exaggeration and the distortion of history. The Omanis definitely recognised the power of prestige of the Somali powers like the majerteen sultanate, with whom they had written treaties (Hobyo sultanate is another entity which refutes the idea of primitive Somalis btw). When they had influence On the coastal regions, the Omanis made deals with groups like Tunni and they also recognised the influence of the Geledi sultans. The Omanis also allied with Somalis clans around Lamu and I believe the MJ try to forged a link with them when they moved South to Kismaayo.


Another side note is that it was the Omani sultan who signed off the Southern ports to the Italian, ushering in one of the darkest periods in Somali history.

Second side note- if it wasn’t for the clans in the interior the Oromos would have most likely reached the Southern Coast. Praise Allah you don’t worship Waaq.

 

[Arkan]

I don’t know how they think attacking the Somali brand will do them any favours. They have a deep resentment toward the Hawiye, but the rest of us are unfamiliar with these people and see them as Shisheeye. And a lot of the time, it’s the same Hawiye they despise who try to prove their Somaliness to the rest of us.

 

[Ghengis Kaarhis]

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It’s funny how easy it is to see right through the performance antics in some of these threads.

OP calls herself “Puntland Queen” but barely talks about Puntland instead, it’s endless rage threads about “cadcads,” Barawa, Benadiri, Bantu etc. If not that, then it’s recycled daily threads about dirac, who’s wearing it, phenotype talk, iyo wax la mid ah.

Then there’s the obvious, forced slander targeting those specific communities(insults always revolves around tying them to Indians). You can tell , unless you’re from those groups yourself , you wouldn’t be obsessing over them this much, constantly bringing them up just to complain or “debate.” It just makes it even more clear you’re actually from, or tied to, the very people you claim to have an issue with.

It’s the same with most people commenting on these threads ,it’s like y’all just gave up the whole larp game.

Honestly, I’m not too bothered by the claims flying around on social media. You can’t rewrite documented history. Anyone who’s genuinely interested or informed will see through the noise without much effort.

Historically, Somalis migrated to Arabia and integrated as traders and religious or political figures without displacing the local populations. Yet, when others arrive on Somalia’s already inhabited coast, their presence is framed as “founding towns.” Cmon now, This isn’t really about history , it’s about identity politics. That's what underpins all of this, even the creation of this thread.

If you actually care about the truth, you either correct misinformation calmly, without getting emotional, or if the person clearly isn’t reasonable, you disengage. Constantly reacting and trying to clap back to everything just wastes time and stops you from actually learning something useful. That's another reason why this is obviously seems very performative.

I'm sorry Idilnaa, I love your posts and contribution on this forum, but I am with Puntite on this one. Too many people try to discredit us and try to claim our historical feat as their own in order to stake a claim in the future of Somalia. This will probably bleed into which direction we will take as the nation rebuilds, we are in an extremely fragile state and we are doing negotiation about our oil that will undoubtedly change Somalia.

I want no one other than Somalis controlling and governing Somalia. Cadcads, bantus and other minorities have their place in our country, but they should never have a whiff at either political, military, social or economic strength to the point that their sole interest override the interest of the native population.

Also best believe when it comes to who truly is indigenous to Somalia, both Africans through the bantu Somalis would gladly claim we are "invaders" in order to stake a claim in our seas and land. Same goes for the Arabs through the cadcads, however they will claim that they built everything and the land was bare.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

What is factual however, is that not all Somalis live in the magaalo, and we have magaalo Somalis, nomadic Somalis, farmer Somalis and so forth. What the sneaky shisheeye try to do, is pretend that there was no reer magaal or trader/seafarer ethnic Somali and they owned our coasts. This is where they try to use our inherent disunity and qabyaalad to weasel their way in.

When in reality, trader/seafarer Somalis were the ones who allowed these people to settle our coast and I am convinced, many were brought in as employees. For example, they would hire engineers from other countries at times to build forts and castles. There is an Arab family in Eyl, whose grandfather built the Dervish tower there.

Same way that Somalis hire Asians today, and Asians keep migrating to us for job opportunities.

They come to us for sustenance, and then when they are allowed to make some money and live in peace, they forget their place.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Let me tell you the biggest issue and I’m going to have some attack me here. Ethnic Somalis are filled with hatred towards each other and many would rather foreigners take credit than a Somali from a different qabil. I’ve literally heard Daroods and Isaaqs doubt that Xamar was led by Abgaals or Hawiyes in general. Anti dark skin sentiments are also rife with footo madow when the average Isaaq and Darood is also dark skin. I also don’t think Hawiyes are innocent in all this as well. But I’m being honest here. If we tear each other down ultimately WE Somalis regardless of tribe will look like fools because on the world stage we are all the same. The same people who are trying to claim the history of Xamar are also trying to claim the history of Zeila.

When people make up fake stories, it makes us Somalis look crazy. It is 100% true that there were Abgaal reer baadiyo that were only in the magaalo to sell milk etc, and also, those who lived within the city. We need to differentiate between reer magaal Hawiye, Baadiyo Hawiye and so forth. Same way that not all Harti traded with foreigners, only those who were coastal, dadka waa la kala yaqaana. If Somalis stick to facts, we will not have any issue.

As for the qabyaalad. The day that Daarood and Hawiye realise they are two brothers from the same father, most of our issues will die. It's actually embarrassing at this point. Hal nin baa na dhalay, waxaa isku haysana complete nonsense. The only difference between the two, is that one has the real abtiris, and the other a complete lie.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

My advice to all of you Somalis is this, go to your elders, learned people, and document your history. Record voices, videos etc. Also, log who lived where, who was coastal, magaalo, baadiyo etc, down to the sub-clans. We can trace our own history ourselves and preserve it. Also, find out exactly which D&M, Hawiye, Dir etc, were originally in the Southern Coastal areas, and don't rely on these Cadaans 'historians', who have their own agendas. And for the love of Allah, don't exaggerate, this is where the weakness comes in and is exploited.

For example, I have a thread about the North-East trade history, and we know exactly which sub-clans lived where, who the rulers were, allies etc. Even evidence of trading presence in Eritrea and settlements there too. These soo-galooti cannot say anything to us. As for Northern Semites, they are civilised and have been Somalised (Mahrah/South-Semites).

Koonfurta lagu kibray, ha loo diyaar garoobo.

North-East Somalia Trade History

The Cape of Spices

www.somalispot.com

 

[Devilsadvocate]

What is factual however, is that not all Somalis live in the magaalo, and we have magaalo Somalis, nomadic Somalis, farmer Somalis and so forth. What the sneaky shisheeye try to do, is pretend that there was no reer magaal or trader/seafarer ethnic Somali and they owned our coasts.

Exactly. We are multifaceted, as you’ve already said. We have Somali artisans, Somali merchants, Somali nomads, Somali farmers, etc and we should be proud of all of these roles. Ethnic Somalis are present in every single role in our country, and there’s not one that’s solely dominated by ajnabis. I think that’s what makes the xenophobic individuals annoyed. I hope Somalis can get over the qabyalad and develop their cities and regions. Through this, we can spread knowledge about our regions and cities among ourselves and on the international stage, just like how China does. For example, Bari (Land of the frankincense) , Bay (Home of the farmers) etc.

 

[Kane]

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[Arkan]

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Now that’s a stretch. Cool off.

 

[Bahal]

Wonders never cease, Cadcads done turned puntite queen into a kumbaya somaliweynist

 

[Idilinaa]

I'm sorry Idilnaa, I love your posts and contribution on this forum, but I am with Puntite on this one. Too many people try to discredit us and try to claim our historical feat as their own in order to stake a claim in the future of Somalia. This will probably bleed into which direction we will take as the nation rebuilds, we are in an extremely fragile state and we are doing negotiation about our oil that will undoubtedly change Somalia.

I want no one other than Somalis controlling and governing Somalia. Cadcads, bantus and other minorities have their place in our country, but they should never have a whiff at either political, military, social or economic strength to the point that their sole interest override the interest of the native population.

Also best believe when it comes to who truly is indigenous to Somalia, both Africans through the bantu Somalis would gladly claim we are "invaders" in order to stake a claim in our seas and land. Same goes for the Arabs through the cadcads, however they will claim that they built everything and the land was bare.

I believe the focus is incredibly misplaced. You shouldn’t be concerned with others supposedly discrediting Somalis or “claiming” history. It’s not a competition of “us vs. them.” You should be far more interested in expanding your understanding of real history and developments within the country and how they all interconnect. This should be about fostering self-knowledge, not playing identity political games.


Most on this site have absolutely no interest or genuine curiosity in that, I can tell. Every time I share something factual, carefully researched, or genuinely informative, it barely registers. It seems like it rubs people the wrong way instead. That’s the vibe I constantly pick up. You don’t even repeat or share it, let alone build on it.


Instead, what I get is a wave of retaliatory threads, contrarian posts, and people obsessing over finding flaws or “gotchas.” Some of you behave like demented trolls, and the immediate reaction is rarely to engage or digest the information. It almost never evolves into fruitful exchanges.


That’s why it’s easy for me to see through the performance. You guys play this act and then talk about “minorities,” but to me, it just reveals more than you think. That this all just deep-seated projection because beneath it, you see yourselves as minorities, as peripheral, and not really part of the Somali mainstream you pretend to defend.

As I have said here:

The fixation some of you have with population numbers especially in the context of recent threads about "minorities," Bantu identity, or Somali fertility rates , is honestly telling.

We can't forget this thread i responded to recently:

Minorities should’ve lead Somalia ( Reddit topic)

What do you guys think should our minority brothers and sisters get a chance to lead the nation

www.somalispot.com

In Somalia, the social fabric has historically been integrative and relatively egalitarian. There were no rigid caste systems or ethnic hierarchies like in other parts of the continent. People lived together, intermarried, collaborated , especially across local and communal lines.

It feels less like a genuine discussion and more like projecting deep-seated anxieties and identity crises. You’re not engaging from a place of wanting integration or understanding, but from othering yourselves and creating friction with the very collective you’re part of.

This pattern of self-othering, and the obsession with "minority" status or demographic paranoia, mirrors talking points borrowed from white supremacist rhetoric, like “population replacement” or “decline.” It’s a strange echo of ideologies that don’t belong here and have no roots in Somali society.

If anything, y’all need to stop consuming these harmful narratives and start asking: why am I so fixated on alienating myself from my wn people? Because that’s the real conversation that’s overdue.

Even the way you frame this makes it clear how much this is rooted in identity politics: “I want no one other than Somalis controlling and governing Somalia. Cadcads, Bantus and other minorities have their place in our country, but they should never have a whiff at either political, military, social or economic strength to the point that their sole interest override the interest of the native population.”

What’s apparent to me is that you’re not expressing typical Somali sentiments, priorities, or beliefs. You’re expressing your own deep-seated anxiety and identity crisis , you see yourself as a marginalized minority, even as you try to perform as if you're defending the majority.

Even the claims about Somalis being “invaders” in their own land stem from the Bantu community’s own internalized view of minority status and lingering insecurities around the dominance of the wider Somali collective. It’s a response shaped by estrangement, not engagement a disassociation rooted in historical trauma, especially around the painful legacy of slavery and their relatively recent arrival in Somali territories.

To me, the real solution isn’t erasure or retaliation. It’s a more balanced and inclusionary understanding of history , one that acknowledges the past without distorting it to manufacture resentment.