Are We (Somalis) Striving To Be A Society Like This One?

I totally agree that is Islam is perfect, but that doesn’t work for me. How is a woman supposed be a functioning human in a society?
f*ck you mean it doesnt work for me. Ma walanathay. You cant choose what part of the religion u accept and deny. Either you are a muslim who believes in the Quran and Sunnah. Or you are disbelieving in the religion.
 

Samaalic Era

QurboExit
@Samaalic Era

You conveniently ignored my other question. Let me paraphrase it for you. An illiterate Muslim male guardian can make decisions for a well educated Muslim woman even if she is a surgeon or a professor because he is a man? Is that true?

Allah swt is the one who made the man to be the guardian of the woman. Fancy titles will not negate the Divine Word of The King of Kings
 
I hear young Somali girls saying. 'a Muslim woman needs a mahram to travel', is this what they want to be?

No, we want a society where it's socially acceptable to do both. If you want to have a mahram, that's fine, but if you don't want to, we're not gonna force you to do have one.
 
@Suldaanka

Let us be clear here, mahram is a Saudi (salafi) culture and not many other Muslims practice. Check with the Indonesian and Malaysian Muslims, the overwhelming majority don't practice this custom.

These youngsters with their extreme views want to send us back to the stone age, like you said @AussieHustler they justify their views by quoting a few hadith and overlook the ones, like @Suldaanka who is relaxing in the West while having two wifes in the hell hole called Somalia, even though it is strongly advised against at that a Muslim shouldn't live in a Gaal country him and his ilks still do so, their excuse they are here to work as if they couldn't also work in a place like Malaysia,Indonesia etc
 
@Samaalic Era

Thanks Sxb, in that case, can one say that an illiterate Muslim man (guardian) will make all the choices for a well educated Muslim woman? Or, are you missing to put in contextual, for example, it wasn't safe for a woman at that era to travel on her own?
Ask a sheik this question, Islam is a complex religion, not something a gaalo can understand so easy.
 
Islam is perfect. Everything people disagree with doesnt mean its a suadi thing. The religion is complete. Second Nabi Maxamed scw was illiterate.

Muslim (1339) narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “It is not permissible for a woman who believes in Allaah and the Last Day to travel the distance of one day, except with a mahram.”

When are you going to pack your bags and leave the West for good ?

Abu Dawood narrates from Samrah bin Jundub that the Holy Prophet (Sallallaho Alaihi Wassallam)said: “He who mingles with a disbeliever and dwells with him is like him.” Abu Dawood and Tirmidhi also report that the Holy Prophet (Sallallaho Alaihi Wassallam)said: “I am free (i.e. I disavow myself) from every Muslim who lives with disbelievers.” The Sahabah asked “Why, O Messenger of Allah?” He replied “The fires of the two cannot co-exist.”
 
These youngsters with their extreme views want to send us back to the stone age, like you said @AussieHustler they justify their views by quoting a few hadith and overlook the ones, like @Suldaanka who is relaxing in the West while having two wifes in the hell hole called Somalia, even though it is strongly advised against at that a Muslim shouldn't live in a Gaal country him and his ilks still do so, their excuse they are here to work as if they couldn't also work in a place like Malaysia,Indonesia etc
Somalia is a hell hole for gaalos. I got 6 months before i leave. For good. Again a nonmuslim cant accept our religion and accept it.
 
Somalia is a hell hole for gaalos. I got 6 months before i leave. For good. Again a nonmuslim cant accept our religion and accept it.

@Suldaanka

Somalia has been a hell hole for Somalis for over 3 decades and as we speak, 1.5 million Somalis are on the brink of starvation. What’s your point? Is your MAG and Trump support a smokescreen?
 
f*ck you mean it doesnt work for me. Ma walanathay. You cant choose what part of the religion u accept and deny. Either you are a muslim who believes in the Quran and Sunnah. Or you are disbelieving in the religion.
I just looked for Hadith from Bukhri and couldn’t find one specifically on this. I just meant that there different interpretations in Islam generally. I can’t think that the Prophet meant that women can’t go out our travel alone, rather than they should be alone in the road for longer than 48hrs.
 

Samaalic Era

QurboExit
@Samaalic Era

Fair dinkum if that is what you believe, so, a very low I.Q guy can be a guardian and make life-choices decisions for a very intelligent person who happens to be a female? Back to the 7th Century.

Its ironic that Somalia's Golden Age was through Islam and its darkes through adopting western form of govt.

Something to think about
 

Samaalic Era

QurboExit
I just looked for Hadith from Bukhri and couldn’t find one specifically on this. I just meant that there different interpretations in Islam generally. I can’t think that the Prophet meant that women can’t go out our travel alone, rather than they should be alone in the road for longer than 48hrs.

Your lying against the Prophet pbuh. If you have no knowledge on a matter this serious, its best not speak about it
 
I just looked for Hadith from Bukhri and couldn’t find one specifically on this. I just meant that there different interpretations in Islam generally. I can’t think that the Prophet meant that women can’t go out our travel alone, rather than they should be alone in the road for longer than 48hrs.
Read the hadith. Its as clear as day. You have no knowledge yet you want to discredit it. Some of the things people say can take them out of the fold. Watch what u say
 
@Suldaanka

Somalia has been a hell hole for Somalis for over 3 decades and as we speak, 1.5 million Somalis are on the brink of starvation. What’s your point? Is your MAG and Trump support a smokescreen?
Bs. Doesnt exist. Just came back. My mom and siblings including my wifes are there. Its all a big scam. But u are glad to hear bad news.
 
I just looked for Hadith from Bukhri and couldn’t find one specifically on this. I just meant that there different interpretations in Islam generally. I can’t think that the Prophet meant that women can’t go out our travel alone, rather than they should be alone in the road for longer than 48hrs.
Now u want to think how the prophet should have done. You should have been choosen as a prophet. Read the quran and sunnah.
 
Its ironic that Somalia's Golden Age was through Islam and its darkes through adopting western form of govt.

Something to think about

@Samaalic Era

I digress to that statement. Somalia never had a “golden age”, but its best years were when the late dictator Mohamed Siad Barre ruled Somalia. There were more educated Somalis, women were treated with dignity and equality, people were more prosperous and the Wahhabi scholars were silenced. Not a better era. I think @Suldaanka will agree with me on this one, obviously for different reasons, clan-wise.

Bs. Doesnt exist. Just came back. My mom and siblings including my wifes are there. Its all a big scam. But u are glad to hear bad news.

@Suldaanka

You read us hadiths and at the same time lie for fake pride.

Over 1.5 mln Somalis still face acute food crisis: UN report.

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https://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2019/...s_still_face_acute_food_crisis_un_report.aspx
 
@Samaalic Era

I digress to that statement. Somalia never had a “golden age”, but its best years were when the late dictator Mohamed Siad Barre ruled Somalia. There were more educated Somalis, women were treated with dignity and equality, people were more prosperous and the Wahhabi scholars were silenced. Not a better era. I think @Suldaanka will agree with me on this one, obviously for different reasons, clan-wise.



@Suldaanka

You read us hadiths and at the same time lie for fake pride.

Over 1.5 mln Somalis still face acute food crisis: UN report.

201923636847924511032115image1170x530cropped.jpg


https://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2019/...s_still_face_acute_food_crisis_un_report.aspx
According to people who havent been on the ground. I have been to 6 gobols on my last trip. Its the un and world bank gimmick to get money.
As for siyaad barre was a darood and that is all we share. Siyaad Barre was the best we had but there were religious issues. After his fall did somalis really understand islam. Why do you care for wahabbi or sufi or takfiir. Choosing what type of islam would cause the most harm to us. You enjoy our downfall and divisions. Stop talking about islam
 

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