Are We (Somalis) Striving To Be A Society Like This One?
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I was talking about aussie. Second its 1 day so 24 hrs.
GBTarmy
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@AussieHustler was a salafi funnily enough, how did you go from salafi to leaving Islam?
@GBTarmy
It’s called Salafi burnout and you have 3 choices. Either, you become a terrorist, a hypocrite (like I3tisam and your bosses are the Saudi Royal family Clerics) or leave the religion. Stick with your Shafici-Sufi and never join that sect.
Don't put words into my mouth.
No person has more authority over me than my mother. I can't tell her what to do, only advise. Inshallah, it will remain like that until we die.
That's because old school sufism was flexible enough to adapt itself into the fabric of Somali society without infringing on indigenous traditions. Sufism's non-militant nature was crucial to Islam's survival and spread within Somalia. You can't compare that to brand of Islam that's being imported and spread now by the US and dhegacas oil money.
Samaalic Era
QurboExit
Im against Arabization and the Saudis. Islam is fundemental to our success and without, we become the lowest of the low. It doesnt mean take fatwas from Saudis and in fact we should never listen to foreigners
@Samaalic Era
We do have thousands of Somali imams in the diaspora and back home who were taught and trained in Saudi Arabia and you don’t need foreigners to influence Somalis because these Somali imams are the conduits of the Saudi cultural hegemony among the Somalis and abolish whatever is remaining of the Somali cultural traditions. It’s a lost game.
Saudi Arabia is slowly ditching it's dead skin of cultural baggage and slowly, they are emerging to join the modernised world. Now, travel restrictions of women are lifted and they are free to travel alone wherever they want, will the Salafi Somali Sheikhs inform the Somalis the interpretation has been revamped by their spiritual leaders in Saudi Arabia, or they won't be happy with this development and continue on the course that we should appropriate the Saudi culture its entirety? Any ideas?
Saudi Arabia lifts travel restriction on its women.
Jubilation erupts on social media as landmark reform ends male 'guardianship' on women travelling abroad.
Dalia Yashar is one of the first Saudi students to register to become a commercial pilot [Hamad Mohammed/Reuters]
Saudi Arabia will allow women to travel abroad without approval from a male "guardian", the government has announced, ending a restriction that drew international censure and prompted extreme attempts to flee the kingdom.
The decree announced on Friday comes after high-profile attempts by women to escape their guardians, despite a string of reforms including an historic decree last year that overturned the world's only ban on female motorists.
Reema Bandar Al-Saud, Saudi Arabia's first female ambassador to the United States, also confirmed the report in a social media post.
"These new regulations are history in the making. They call for the equal engagement of women and men in our society," she said. "These developments have been a long time coming."
It was unclear when the order will take effect.
If implemented, the landmark reform ends the long-standing guardianship system that renders adult women as legal minors and allows their guardians - husband, father and other male relatives - to exercise arbitrary authority over them.
"A passport will be granted to any Saudi national who submits an application," said a government ruling published in the official gazette, Umm Al-Qura.
The regulation effectively allows women over the age of 21 to obtain passports and leave the country without their guardian's permission, the pro-government Okaz newspaper and other local media reported, citing senior authorities.
Women in the kingdom have long required permission from their male guardians to marry, renew their passports or exit the country.
The reform grants women greater autonomy and mobility, the pro-government Saudi Gazette newspaper said, hailing the decision as "one giant leap for Saudi women".
The decision was met with jubilation on social media, with the hashtag "No guardianship over women travel" gaining traction and many posting humorous memes of women fleeing with suitcases and being chased by men.
"Some women's dreams were aborted due to inability to leave the country for whatever reason ... to study abroad, a work opportunity, or even flee if so desired," Saudi businesswoman Muna Abu Sulayman said on Twitter.
The changes also grant Saudi women the right to officially register childbirth, marriage or divorce and to be recognised as a guardian to children who are minors [File: Zohra Bensemra/Reuters]
"This change means women are in a way in full control of their legal destiny."
The changes also grant Saudi women what has long been a male entitlement - the right to officially register childbirth, marriage or divorce and to be recognised as a guardian to children who are minors.
A hashtag calling for marriage without a guardian's consent was also among the top trending along with a hashtag thanking the crown prince and another touting the new travel rules.
Crackdown and reform
The reform comes as Saudi Arabia faces heightened international scrutiny over its human rights record, including an ongoing trial of women activists who have long demanded that the guardianship system be dismantled.
That includes Loujain AlHathloul, a prominent rights activist who marked her 30th birthday this week in a Saudi prison, campaigners said.
Alongside a sweeping crackdown on dissent, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman - the kingdom's de facto ruler - spearheads a wide-ranging liberalisation drive that is aimed at transforming the conservative petrostate, long criticised for its treatment of women.
His reforms include the decision allowing women to drive in June last year, allowing women to attend football games alongside men and take on jobs that once fell outside the narrow confines of traditional gender roles.
But while transforming the lives of many women, critics said the reforms will be cosmetic for many others until the kingdom abolishes the guardianship system.
Some have undertaken perilous attempts to escape overseas despite the reforms.
They include 18-year-old Rahaf al-Qunun or also known as Rahaf Mohammed, whose live-tweeting of a plea for asylum from a Bangkok hotel in January after she fled her Saudi family, drew global attention.
ater, two Saudi sisters who sought sanctuary in Hong Kong from what they called family abuse were allowed passage to a third country that was not named for their safety.
And subsequently, two other Saudi sisters fled to Georgia.
The latest reform, which weakens but does not completely dismantle the guardianship system, could lead to family clashes in the deeply patriarchal society, observers warn.
Saudi officials have expressed commitment to fighting guardianship abuse, but have warned the system can only be dismantled piecemeal to prevent a backlash from arch-conservatives.
In a one-off case last year, a Saudi court ruled in favour of a 24-year-old woman who challenged her father's decision to not let her have a passport. But until Thursday's ruling, she would have still required his permission to travel.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...travel-restriction-women-190802010707868.html
Saudi Arabia lifts travel restriction on its women.
Jubilation erupts on social media as landmark reform ends male 'guardianship' on women travelling abroad.
Dalia Yashar is one of the first Saudi students to register to become a commercial pilot [Hamad Mohammed/Reuters]
Saudi Arabia will allow women to travel abroad without approval from a male "guardian", the government has announced, ending a restriction that drew international censure and prompted extreme attempts to flee the kingdom.
The decree announced on Friday comes after high-profile attempts by women to escape their guardians, despite a string of reforms including an historic decree last year that overturned the world's only ban on female motorists.
Reema Bandar Al-Saud, Saudi Arabia's first female ambassador to the United States, also confirmed the report in a social media post.
"These new regulations are history in the making. They call for the equal engagement of women and men in our society," she said. "These developments have been a long time coming."
It was unclear when the order will take effect.
If implemented, the landmark reform ends the long-standing guardianship system that renders adult women as legal minors and allows their guardians - husband, father and other male relatives - to exercise arbitrary authority over them.
"A passport will be granted to any Saudi national who submits an application," said a government ruling published in the official gazette, Umm Al-Qura.
The regulation effectively allows women over the age of 21 to obtain passports and leave the country without their guardian's permission, the pro-government Okaz newspaper and other local media reported, citing senior authorities.
Women in the kingdom have long required permission from their male guardians to marry, renew their passports or exit the country.
The reform grants women greater autonomy and mobility, the pro-government Saudi Gazette newspaper said, hailing the decision as "one giant leap for Saudi women".
The decision was met with jubilation on social media, with the hashtag "No guardianship over women travel" gaining traction and many posting humorous memes of women fleeing with suitcases and being chased by men.
"Some women's dreams were aborted due to inability to leave the country for whatever reason ... to study abroad, a work opportunity, or even flee if so desired," Saudi businesswoman Muna Abu Sulayman said on Twitter.
The changes also grant Saudi women the right to officially register childbirth, marriage or divorce and to be recognised as a guardian to children who are minors [File: Zohra Bensemra/Reuters]
"This change means women are in a way in full control of their legal destiny."
The changes also grant Saudi women what has long been a male entitlement - the right to officially register childbirth, marriage or divorce and to be recognised as a guardian to children who are minors.
A hashtag calling for marriage without a guardian's consent was also among the top trending along with a hashtag thanking the crown prince and another touting the new travel rules.
Crackdown and reform
The reform comes as Saudi Arabia faces heightened international scrutiny over its human rights record, including an ongoing trial of women activists who have long demanded that the guardianship system be dismantled.
That includes Loujain AlHathloul, a prominent rights activist who marked her 30th birthday this week in a Saudi prison, campaigners said.
Alongside a sweeping crackdown on dissent, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman - the kingdom's de facto ruler - spearheads a wide-ranging liberalisation drive that is aimed at transforming the conservative petrostate, long criticised for its treatment of women.
His reforms include the decision allowing women to drive in June last year, allowing women to attend football games alongside men and take on jobs that once fell outside the narrow confines of traditional gender roles.
But while transforming the lives of many women, critics said the reforms will be cosmetic for many others until the kingdom abolishes the guardianship system.
Some have undertaken perilous attempts to escape overseas despite the reforms.
They include 18-year-old Rahaf al-Qunun or also known as Rahaf Mohammed, whose live-tweeting of a plea for asylum from a Bangkok hotel in January after she fled her Saudi family, drew global attention.
ater, two Saudi sisters who sought sanctuary in Hong Kong from what they called family abuse were allowed passage to a third country that was not named for their safety.
And subsequently, two other Saudi sisters fled to Georgia.
The latest reform, which weakens but does not completely dismantle the guardianship system, could lead to family clashes in the deeply patriarchal society, observers warn.
Saudi officials have expressed commitment to fighting guardianship abuse, but have warned the system can only be dismantled piecemeal to prevent a backlash from arch-conservatives.
In a one-off case last year, a Saudi court ruled in favour of a 24-year-old woman who challenged her father's decision to not let her have a passport. But until Thursday's ruling, she would have still required his permission to travel.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...travel-restriction-women-190802010707868.html
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