Are somalis a combination of different groups?

[Knowthyself]

I've always wondered about this. we all have some features that can be considered "somali" but a lot of the other cushitic groups in the horn and even in the rest of east africa share this. is it possible that we all absorbed multiple tribes that still exist today and a lot more that went extinct? i honestly dont think were a homogenous group that share the same bloodline.


also do we as an ethnic group number MORE then ethiopian groups? i think the oromo might be the only ones close to outnumbering us. but their gypsies so.......

is that qabil thing somewhat correct? not in that we descend from horny yemenites that stubbled upon somalia and decided "well, let me impregnate a couple skinnies and birth a entire ethnic group". but in that, each tribe might have been a seprate group of people that started mixing or integrated within other cushitic groups, and with time became a group of their own (still divided along "tribal" lines and born with stories that were saltbae sprinkled with alternative muslamic truths overtime).

 

[Jujuman]

I've always wondered about this. we all have some features that can be considered "somali" but a lot of the other cushitic groups in the horn and even in the rest of east africa share this. is it possible that we all absorbed multiple tribes that still exist today and a lot more that went extinct? i honestly dont think were a homogenous group that share the same bloodline.


also do we as an ethnic group number MORE then ethiopian groups? i think the oromo might be the only ones close to outnumbering us. but their gypsies so.......

is that qabil thing somewhat correct? not in that we depend from horny yemenites that stubbled upon somalia and decided "well, let me impregnate a couple skinnies and birth a entire ethnic group". but in that, each tribe might have been a seprate group of people that started mixing or integrated within other cushitic groups, and with time became a group of their own (still divided along "tribal" lines and born with stories that were saltbae sprinkled with alternative muslamic truths overtime).

No.

We are a relatively homogeneous group that are closely related to the Oromo people.

 

[MARAQ DIGAAG]

I've always wondered about this. we all have some features that can be considered "somali" but a lot of the other cushitic groups in the horn and even in the rest of east africa share this. is it possible that we all absorbed multiple tribes that still exist today and a lot more that went extinct? i honestly dont think were a homogenous group that share the same bloodline.


also do we as an ethnic group number MORE then ethiopian groups? i think the oromo might be the only ones close to outnumbering us. but their gypsies so.......

is that qabil thing somewhat correct? not in that we depend from horny yemenites that stubbled upon somalia and decided "well, let me impregnate a couple skinnies and birth a entire ethnic group". but in that, each tribe might have been a seprate group of people that started mixing or integrated within other cushitic groups, and with time became a group of their own (still divided along "tribal" lines and born with stories that were saltbae sprinkled with alternative muslamic truths overtime).

You need to take the jamaacatu DNa Suugo science course .

 

[Knowthyself]

You need to take the jamaacatu DNa Suugo science course .

proffessor @Amun come here and teach this course.

 

[Apollo]

Holding a PhD in Somali Ancestry Studies, the short answer is no.

 

[Lord Flacko]

No. Most Somalis carry one haplogroup and the remaining 15% carry another. That's crazy homogeneous.

We're the most homogeneous in the East and North Africa, if not all of Africa. The Oromo are heterogeneous, which means they have many different lineages. We have none of their except one, E-V32 aka Hamitic lineage.

You're giving your uneducated pure guess.

 

[Lord Flacko]

proffessor @Amun come here and teach this course.

http://www.somalispot.com/threads/the-origins-of-our-people.20088/

Read the whole thread and in particular my posts from about halfway in.

 

[Apollo]

''an average of 85% of genetic variation exists within local populations, ~7% is between local populations within the same continent, and ~8% of variation occurs between large groups living on different continents''

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genetic_variation#Distribution_of_variation

People who question why some Somalis don't look exactly the same don't understand this principle. It doesn't mean the ethnicity doesn't exist.

 

[ItsHanna]

In my opinion yes.

 

[Knowthyself]

Holding a PhD in Somali Ancestry Studies, the short answer is no.

how do you explain somalis looking extremely different to each other? some looking bantu adjacent, some looking yemeni adjacent, some looking like a habash, some having very stereotypically somali faces but with a inbred twist.

 

[Lord Flacko]

In my opinion yes.

Your opinion isn't worth shit doe.


But please elaborate so I can refute.

 

[Garad]

I've always wondered about this. we all have some features that can be considered "somali" but a lot of the other cushitic groups in the horn and even in the rest of east africa share this. is it possible that we all absorbed multiple tribes that still exist today and a lot more that went extinct? i honestly dont think were a homogenous group that share the same bloodline.


also do we as an ethnic group number MORE then ethiopian groups? i think the oromo might be the only ones close to outnumbering us. but their gypsies so.......

is that qabil thing somewhat correct? not in that we depend from horny yemenites that stubbled upon somalia and decided "well, let me impregnate a couple skinnies and birth a entire ethnic group". but in that, each tribe might have been a seprate group of people that started mixing or integrated within other cushitic groups, and with time became a group of their own (still divided along "tribal" lines and born with stories that were saltbae sprinkled with alternative muslamic truths overtime).

No, genetic studies have shown that we are in fact one people and share a same common origin. This is supported by Somali oral history, culture, tradition, and so forth. Although Qabil is a myth, it's based off family ties, hence why almost all Somalis can trace their ancestry to brothers, Sab and Samaale.
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Source:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-3148.2006.00694_52.x/abstract

 

[Jjero]

how do you explain somalis looking extremely different to each other? some looking bantu adjacent, some looking yemeni adjacent, some looking like a habash, some having very stereotypically somali faces but with a inbred twist.

Because Bantus arent somali, By nationality yes but they aren't Somali
Next Yemeni looking somalis are the mixed ones from when the arabs came to somalia
Basically xamar cad cad
And many habashi looking somalis are not somalis, same like bantu they have been in Somalia a long time but they are not our people

 

[Apollo]

how do you explain somalis looking extremely different to each other? some looking bantu adjacent, some looking yemeni adjacent, some looking like a habash, some having very stereotypically somali faces but with a inbred twist.

I knew that was the main thing that sparked this thread and it was answered above (post #8).

A group with the same origin can have individuals that look rather different. Using Ireland as an example, they have blond, red, and black haired individuals all with the exact same origin.

 

[Jjero]

Kutiri somalis are a mixed people

 

[Knowthyself]

Because Bantus arent somali, By nationality yes but they aren't Somali
Next Yemeni looking somalis are the mixed ones from when the arabs came to somalia
Basically xamar cad cad
And many habashi looking somalis are not somalis, same like bantu they have been in Somalia a long time but they are not our people

no I'm talking about 100% native somalis. who share features with the groups. their somali but dont "look" somali if that makes sense.

 

[Lord Flacko]

how do you explain somalis looking extremely different to each other? some looking bantu adjacent, some looking yemeni adjacent, some looking like a habash, some having very stereotypically somali faces but with a inbred twist.

Somalis have alot of distinct looks and phenotypes. Our biggest variable is skin tone.

Just because there are a few that look different doesn't mean Somalis as a whole are mixed. Every Somali knows they could easily see if someone is Somali or not.

lol being shocked Somalis looking like Habeshas is like being shocked some Brits look like Norwegians.

And no Somali looks Bantu, and those who look somewhat Yemeni have mixed heritage.

 

[Jjero]

no I'm talking about 100% native somalis. who share features with the groups. their somali but dont "look" somali if that makes sense.

U give me madax xanuun wallahi

 

[MARAQ DIGAAG]

how do you explain somalis looking extremely different to each other? some looking bantu adjacent, some looking yemeni adjacent, some looking like a habash, some having very stereotypically somali faces but with a inbred twist.

Only a minority of Somalis look like Bantu or Yemeni half -caste .the remaining 80-90 percent of Somalis have similar looks and gain similar results on DNA testing .

 

[Apollo]

There are even Somali families where the siblings don't look anything like each other. This exact same phenomenon also exists on a macro level (within ethnicity).