Are Half-Somalis considered as "Somalis"?

[Prince of Lasanod]

So if the mom/dad isn't Somali, they aren't Somali then?

If the mother is another East African(like Oromo or Sudani), and her father is Somali, then to me she's pretty much a full Somali.

 

[paramedic]

Oh, better yet what if the child takes after the nonSomali parent. If the child looks Chinese or Indian or whatever would you consider them to be Somali?

 

[Yahya Liban-Lewis]

If the mother is another East African(like Oromo or Sudani), and her father is Somali, then to me she's pretty much full Somali.

What if the mom/dad is arab, black, white, indoyaar, or south asian? Is that kid still a Somali?

 

[Yahya Liban-Lewis]

Oh, better yet what if the child takes after the nonSomali parent. If the child looks Chinese or Indian or whatever would you consider them to be Somali?

Good question. I don't think Somalis consider a half-Somali as a "Somali' period. Half-Somalis are always viewed negatively.

 

[paramedic]

Good question. I don't think Somalis consider a half-Somali as a "Somali' period. Half-Somalis are always viewed negatively.

I wonder if there's a hierarchy where they would be more welcoming to a child that at least looks Somali vs a child that clearly doesn't but in the end they don't consider either to be fully Somali.

 

[Prince of Lasanod]

What if the mom/dad is arab, black, white, indoyaar, or south asian? Is that kid still a Somali?

Maybe in our parents/grandparents generation, but in ours? No.

 

[Yahya Liban-Lewis]

I wonder if there's a hierarchy where they would be more welcoming to a child that at least looks Somali vs a child that clearly doesn't but in the end they don't consider either to be fully Somali.

There is a hierarchy from what I've noticed.

1) Half-Arab = Somalis immediately accept, because Somalis love Arabs, "Anta Arab".
2) Half-Caadan = Somalis don't accept it but some do, due to colorism.
3) Half-Asian = Somalis don't accept it, but some do, due to having "timo-jileec".
4) Half-Black = Somalis absolutely do not accept, no matter what.

 

[black]

You can't deny someone's DNA.

fukkin watch me mate

 

[Yahya Liban-Lewis]

Maybe in our parents/grandparents generation, but in ours? No.

True, I've noticed Somalis have become more "anti-ajnabi marriage".

 

[black]

There is a hierarchy from what I've noticed.

1) Half-Arab = Somalis immediately accept, because Somalis love Arabs, "Anta Arab".
2) Half-Caadan = Somalis don't accept it but some do, due to colorism.
3) Half-Asian = Somalis don't accept it, but some do, due to having "timo-jileec".
4) Half-Black = Somalis absolutely do not accept, no matter what.

That's not true, cadaans and madows (african) are on the same scale (classic gaalo tier ranking). Arabs get privilege and Asians lesser.

hindu/sikh = is just not possible. It's just unprecedented

 

[Soulei]

If they see themselves as Somali and are in tune with their culture then why not? Never understood the "you're only Somali if your father is" thing, I know a couple half Somalis with Somali fathers that barely see themselves as Somali, know nothing about the culture, and are even Christian--are you actually saying they'll be accepted in Somalia as equivalent to a full Somali? I doubt it lol.

 

[Yahya Liban-Lewis]

That's not true, cadaans and madows (african) are on the same scale (classic gaalo tier ranking). Arabs get privilege and Asians lesser.

hindu/sikh = is just not possible. It's just unprecedented

I've seen Somalis that will allow caadan and completely shun madows. Madows are on the bottom of the list.

By half-Asian, I mean Chinese/Indoyaars, where I'm from Asians are Chinese not Indians. I'm not Reer UK sxb.

 

[Edo Nene]

in somali culture, you are what your fathers qabil. end of discussion.

 

[Malcolm X]

Depends on which culture they follow at home

 

[Yahya Liban-Lewis]

If they see themselves as Somali and are in tune with their culture then why not? Never understood the "you're only Somali if your father is" thing, I know a couple half Somalis with Somali fathers that barely see themselves as Somali, know nothing about the culture, and are even Christian--are you actually saying people like that are accepted in Somalia as equivalent to a full Somali? I doubt it lol.

I agree but Somalis who are in tune with their culture are considered as "Somalis" but Somalis don't really see them as "Somalis". They still are going to talk shit behind the Half-Somalis back.

 

[Yonis]

if the half is bantu or cadaan then not.

exactly if the genetic composition of the other half is far away they're not somalis at all

 

[Soulei]

I agree but Somalis who are in tune with their culture are considered as "Somalis" but Somalis don't really see them as "Somalis". They still are going to talk shit behind the Half-Somalis back.

True, but Somalis will talk shit about you regardless so I wouldn't even take that personally if I were them. DNA doesn't lie and you can't deny half your genetics. Saying that someone is not Somali because of their qabil (or lack thereof) won't erase the Somali from their blood.

 

[Yahya Liban-Lewis]

exactly if the genetic composition of the other half is far away they're not somalis at all

Ok, here's an example, the UK rapper "Nines". He's Half-Somali and Half-Jamaican. Is he considered Somali to you?

 

[Yonis]

Ok, here's an example, the UK rapper "Nines". He's Half-Somali and Half-Jamaican. Is he considered Somali to you?

f*ck no.

 

[Yahya Liban-Lewis]

f*ck no.

Alot of Somalis would say the same. He isn't Somali "waa madow".